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Surprised not to see this already.
So the new store anniversary intercessor datasheet replaces ATSKNF with Angels of Death and the wargear options are different and refer to the Intercessor Sgt equipment table. A hand flamer is also an option.



Certainly looks like we will be seeing a new marine dex soon.

Interesting - been expecting a full Primaris dex for some time.

The wording on that is really weird.

Posted it a bit ago in the Primaris tactics thread, but this will probably see more traffic.

ATSKNF no longer shown...but a new special ability called Angels of Death which likely includes the morale reroll mechanic next to a new effect.

Refers to an Intercessor Sergeant Weapon List, which isn't a thing in the current codex. Assuming this means chainsword, power fist, and power sword...but the data sheet also references the option to equip a hand-flamer or a master-crafted auto/stalker on the sarge.

 Sir Heckington wrote:
The wording on that is really weird.

Maybe they’ll finally get their act together?

It's just And they shall know no fear + Bolter discipline

KurtAngle2 wrote:
It's just And they shall know no fear + Bolter discipline

This is what I assume it will be as well

So codex next year?

My bet is late this year, with a SoB vs. Lost and the Damned Xmas box, and then those two codices sometime 2020.

Neat. Glad to see them fleshing out the Primaris line. Though what kit is going to contain hand flamers to put on Intercessors????

Probably a new limited edition figure. Some 250th half-anniversary Primaris Sergeant model or something from Japan.

How? There aren't even sprus for half these things...This honestly looks like one of the badly translated data sheets that comes with knock off boxes. GamesWorkshed InterCassers.

drbored wrote:
Neat. Glad to see them fleshing out the Primaris line. Though what kit is going to contain hand flamers to put on Intercessors????

seems to be the GW way, like the old tac marines and devastators and grav guns/ grav cannons. the re release intercessors kit with hand flamers. still sell the ETB kit without and box sets without them. hopefully they also add another couple of weapon options in there too. hopefully a primaris missile launcher as a swiss army type weapon.

 bullyboy wrote:
Surprised not to see this already.
So the new store anniversary intercessor datasheet replaces ATSKNF with Angels of Death and the wargear options are different and refer to the Intercessor Sgt equipment table. A hand flamer is also an option.



Certainly looks like we will be seeing a new marine dex soon.

I'm not surprised at all to be honest, I'd say on 7/23 we will know a lot more information, assuming that teaser vid from a couple weeks ago pans out.

The thing I'm wondering about is if we'll see new upgrade sprues for the already available kits (Special weps, Heavy Weps for intercessors, power weapons for reivers.)

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
How? There aren't even sprus for half these things...This honestly looks like one of the badly translated data sheets that comes with knock off boxes. GamesWorkshed InterCassers.

And the Bolt Rifle isn't even listed on the datasheet. Thus far, all options named on a datasheet have their stats on the same datasheet. Only options from Special Weapons or Melee weapons lists are not included on datasheets.
So either this is fake, or (equally likely) this is the first in a new format for GW codices.

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 Galef wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
How? There aren't even sprus for half these things...This honestly looks like one of the badly translated data sheets that comes with knock off boxes. GamesWorkshed InterCassers.

And the Bolt Rifle isn't even listed on the datasheet. Thus far, all options named on a datasheet have their stats on the same datasheet. Only options from Special Weapons or Melee weapons lists are not included on datasheets.
So either this is fake, or (equally likely) this is the first in a new format for GW codices.

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It's because this is a data sheet for fielding a sarge with pistol, nades, and chainsword.

Or that would make sense if power sword wasn't inexplicably included as well.

Lemondish wrote:
It's because this is a data sheet for fielding a sarge with pistol, nades, and chainsword.

Nope, datasheet says Intercessor SQUAD, not just the Sgt.
But like I said, it could be that GW is moving away from listing the stats for default wargear and LISTED interchangeable options, but the picture shown is puzzling nonetheless.

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The data sheet does say Intercessor squad, but above that it says it is from a box containing one sgt model and that it is an abridged datasheet, so it stands to reason that it is only listing the weapons profiles that actually come as options with this particular model.

I assume it comes with a bolt pistol and both a power sword and a chainsword as options.

 Galef wrote:

Lemondish wrote:
It's because this is a data sheet for fielding a sarge with pistol, nades, and chainsword.

Nope, datasheet says Intercessor SQUAD, not just the Sgt.
But like I said, it could be that GW is moving away from listing the stats for default wargear and LISTED interchangeable options, but the picture shown is puzzling nonetheless.

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No, I mean it's coming in the box with a Sarge. Not a squad. It says so at the top, and that it's abridged.

I can't wait for the new marine codex, I really hope that the Primaris characters get some much needed gear flexibility too.

The hand flamer option is weird though. You have to forgo both your long arm and your melee weapon to get it, so only loadout in which you can have it is bolt pistol & hand flamer. I can't imagine anyone ever wielding such, aside a cool modelling opportunity.

I am also a bit worried that the datasheet refers to 'Intercessor Sergeant Weapon List' as this indicates that poor Reiver Sergeants will remain stuck with their useless knives. Or maybe they will get a separate list in the new codex? =ne can hope. They might have an use for the hand flamer as well.

I admit to mild annoyance that a sergent can have a master crafted autobolt rifle or a master crafted stalker, but yet again no master crafted bolt rifle. *sighs* they do that with primaris captains and Lts too.

Hopefully GW will do as I suspected and wished for.

Make a veteran intercessor unit (with a stratagem in the new codex) and give them all the options to take master crafted weapons. A whole unit with MC stalker bolter rifles would not be half bad at the right cost. Maybe 20 PPM with a CP expenditure.


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 Galef wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
How? There aren't even sprus for half these things...This honestly looks like one of the badly translated data sheets that comes with knock off boxes. GamesWorkshed InterCassers.

And the Bolt Rifle isn't even listed on the datasheet. Thus far, all options named on a datasheet have their stats on the same datasheet. Only options from Special Weapons or Melee weapons lists are not included on datasheets.
So either this is fake, or (equally likely) this is the first in a new format for GW codices.

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Or it's real and just a mistake that they will not correct even with 6 months available to fix it.

Hopefully that Angels of Death rule involves some sort of defensive boost. Otherwise its not gonna much matter what else they get.

First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

Definitely not DW, the sheet has the <CHAPTER> variable keyword.

As for melee options, with 3 attacks on the Sgt I think a Power Sword is more than worth it as a backup for 4pts.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

that is why bits sites are so popular, get some counts as for the things GW left out. alternatively 3d print your own. I know that is what I end up often doing.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

Does it really matter if the put a hand flamer in the box or not?


You guys are all racing past the best goodie from the sheet. Anyone else looking forward to the debate over what "Every model may be equipped with 1 XXXX bolt rifle instead of 1 bolt rifle." Does this mean you do every model at once and have uniform loads? Does this mean every model can mix and match? New phrasing, new argument.

This Sargeant better be cheap if they're expecting people to buy him. Better not be the same cost as an apothecary. I was able to justify buying the $45 characters because I like them. But they'd be off their rocker if they think I'm gonna pay the same for a Sargeant which comes in a box anyway!

Breton wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

Does it really matter if the put a hand flamer in the box or not?


You guys are all racing past the best goodie from the sheet. Anyone else looking forward to the debate over what "Every model may be equipped with 1 XXXX bolt rifle instead of 1 bolt rifle." Does this mean you do every model at once and have uniform loads? Does this mean every model can mix and match? New phrasing, new argument.

*Starts spraying Anti-RAW spray**** GO! Git! Git! Shoo! No one wants to debate with you as to what the meaning of "is" is!



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 G00fySmiley wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

that is why bits sites are so popular, get some counts as for the things GW left out. alternatively 3d print your own. I know that is what I end up often doing.

I know, it's just, common. Through me a fricking bone here. Is it really too much to ask for them to throw in a correct weapons spru on their 60 dollar box of plastic? It was the most disheartening thing ever as a new player to buy the Grey Knights Paladin box, and not even have the ability to make the load out the rules in the box said I could. Imagine if LEGGO came out with their models that required you buy several unrelated boxes of leggos in order to correctly build the thing you bought in the first place.

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:

Breton wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

Does it really matter if the put a hand flamer in the box or not?


You guys are all racing past the best goodie from the sheet. Anyone else looking forward to the debate over what "Every model may be equipped with 1 XXXX bolt rifle instead of 1 bolt rifle." Does this mean you do every model at once and have uniform loads? Does this mean every model can mix and match? New phrasing, new argument.

*Starts spraying Anti-RAW spray**** GO! Git! Git! Shoo! No one wants to debate with you as to what the meaning of "is" is!



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 G00fySmiley wrote:

 FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
First off, unless they release the models with the weapons, I am sick of buying 3 different boxes to kit out my line of 5 most basic dudes. Put it on the spru or take it off the fething sheet.

Second, I am betting this is for DW Intercessors, not Regular intercessors. If this is for regulars, it kinda invalidates the primary strength of DW, which is their tactical flexibility and ammo types.

Finally, what is the point of giving long range shooting units 6" crap shooting? Or melee options? Why not just give them Lightning Claws to complete the weird crap being tossed at them trifecta?

that is why bits sites are so popular, get some counts as for the things GW left out. alternatively 3d print your own. I know that is what I end up often doing.

I know, it's just, common. Through me a fricking bone here. Is it really too much to ask for them to throw in a correct weapons spru on their 60 dollar box of plastic? It was the most disheartening thing ever as a new player to buy the Grey Knights Paladin box, and not even have the ability to make the load out the rules in the box said I could. Imagine if LEGGO came out with their models that required you buy several unrelated boxes of leggos in order to correctly build the thing you bought in the first place.

oh I totally get that. GW SHOULD at what they charge include every possible layout, but they never wiil. I am convinced in the GW world they figure is a person wants say 5 of a weapon for a squad that can take 5 but onyl 1 comes in the box that most people will buy 5 boxes.