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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Morgasm the Powerfull wrote:
I do hope that Tau get something cool like a Kroot psyker who summons some big ghost animals to wreck face, and not just big robot.

Though it'll probably be a big robot.

A big mech suit might not be that bad. It could be piloted by a Nicassar.

GIVE ME MY PSYCHIC SPACE BEARS

 Grimskul wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
You now what if done well... well feth the guys that don't have powers.

Blades of Khorne have arguably the most brutal "Endless Spells", and they're summoned by a Priest rather than cast by a Wizard.

I think we'll see other armies be fine.

Yep. Necrons could have updated 'Powers of the C'tan' for example.

Necrons could also have tech based models like a mobile gloom prism/pylon, alongside said C'tan powers.

I guess Tau would be based around new anti-psyker drones or certain drone airstrikes via markerlights?

Dark Eldar would be based on Haemonculus based weaponry, I could see a physical version of the casket of flensing, or an upsized version of it.

Not sure I like the way this is going, but I feel the rules will be hit or miss like with the terrain stuff they've released so far.

I'd love to see the Crypteks get their old abilities back as somewhat powers.

Morgasm the Powerfull wrote:
I do hope that Tau get something cool like a Kroot psyker who summons some big ghost animals to wreck face, and not just big robot.

Though it'll probably be a big robot.

Nah. You'd more likely get some of the stuff mentioned in the lore but never shown. Things like nanobot swarms that repair Crisis Suits, those Command Drones that only Shadowsun currently has, Stealth Drones that can cloak portions of your army.


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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
As long as they don't make all the Marine stuff psychic. I play Black Templars and World Eaters, so yeah...

As mentioned, Khorne has some of the most powerful 'Remains in Play' style stuff right now in AoS with their Judgements.

That said, I wouldn't be too bothered--some of the factions that can't just outright Dispel Endless Spells have traits/perks that let them either mitigate the damage or they have characters that 'count as' Wizards that would let them destroy them. Also, you not having a Wizard wouldn't mean you could not affect the item if they go to the system in AoS--players move them and you can move the enemy's potentially.

So, since my earlier post has been removed, (fair enough, as it was minimal) I'll post again with:

I am unenthusiastic about this news. I'd prefer spells not to become more central/recieve more emphasis in 40K. Caveat being that I'll wait to see how they actally manifest.

But on the whole, I'm wary.

I wonder if this does turn out to be "modelled Psychic powers" would the marine power fury of the ancients be a small squad of ghostly marines in Mk2-5 armour on a big base running about shooting, fighting etc.?

To me, that sounds pretty cool.

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I wonder if this does turn out to be "modelled Psychic powers" would the marine power fury of the ancients be a small squad of ghostly marines in Mk2-5 armour on a big base running about shooting, fighting etc.?

To me, that sounds pretty cool.

It all depends on how they implement it. I'd personally love a 'physical\ manifestation of a skittering horde of tyranids scratching at the minds of psykers, dealing mental damage and making it harder for them to cast/dispel.

I wonder if this is going to be about the T'au birthing the chaos god of communism that they've hinted at.

Tau could get a hyper-tech version, a bunch of holograms, void shields, etc. Stuff like that could have some similar rules, abilities just to fit in.

OP was hardly the only one to ‘call this’. Lots of us have speculated that Endless Spells would manifest in 40K somehow. This seems to be that coming true, for sure.

 Elbows wrote:
Tau could get a hyper-tech version, a bunch of holograms, void shields, etc. Stuff like that could have some similar rules, abilities just to fit in.

Don't Etherials already manifest "abilities" in game? The high tech stuff would be cooler but they go with more of that.

Looking forward to the Sisters of Battle manifesting their Faith

.....and how Sisters of Silence and other blanks interact with this - I don't recall anyhting like them in AOS?

 JohnnyHell wrote:
OP was hardly the only one to ‘call this’. Lots of us have speculated that Endless Spells would manifest in 40K somehow. This seems to be that coming true, for sure.

GW IS adorably predictable in using 40k's fantasy mirror as a test-bed for 40k changes.

 Sim-Life wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
OP was hardly the only one to ‘call this’. Lots of us have speculated that Endless Spells would manifest in 40K somehow. This seems to be that coming true, for sure.

GW IS adorably predictable in using 40k's fantasy mirror as a test-bed for 40k changes.

They're test beds for each other.

AoS didn't have command points originally, but now it does after 40k 8th is released

 Carnikang wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I wonder if this does turn out to be "modelled Psychic powers" would the marine power fury of the ancients be a small squad of ghostly marines in Mk2-5 armour on a big base running about shooting, fighting etc.?

To me, that sounds pretty cool.

It all depends on how they implement it. I'd personally love a 'physical\ manifestation of a skittering horde of tyranids scratching at the minds of psykers, dealing mental damage and making it harder for them to cast/dispel.

I'd expect that Tyranids will get Familiars ala GSC(they're supposed to be a "manifestation" of some kind) and 'Hive Nodes' or something like that.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Carnikang wrote:

 Dr. Mills wrote:
I wonder if this does turn out to be "modelled Psychic powers" would the marine power fury of the ancients be a small squad of ghostly marines in Mk2-5 armour on a big base running about shooting, fighting etc.?

To me, that sounds pretty cool.

It all depends on how they implement it. I'd personally love a 'physical\ manifestation of a skittering horde of tyranids scratching at the minds of psykers, dealing mental damage and making it harder for them to cast/dispel.

I'd expect that Tyranids will get Familiars ala GSC(they're supposed to be a "manifestation" of some kind) and 'Hive Nodes' or something like that.

I could see that, but it'd also be nice to see manifestations of the Shadow in the Warp. As of right now, it doesn't affect the game a whole lot, while in the Lore its a huge advantage the Tyranids have.

I mean, the Aethersea is a huge deal for Idoneth but they won't ever represent it in the manner that it really is described.

I think SiTW is one of those things that will really only 'work' if you tweak scenarios for it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I mean, the Aethersea is a huge deal for Idoneth but they won't ever represent it in the manner that it really is described.

I think SiTW is one of those things that will really only 'work' if you tweak scenarios for it.

Thats perfectly fair, though it'll always be something that could be looked at. As it stands though, I'm not eager to know more.

 Carnikang wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I mean, the Aethersea is a huge deal for Idoneth but they won't ever represent it in the manner that it really is described.

I think SiTW is one of those things that will really only 'work' if you tweak scenarios for it.

Thats perfectly fair, though it'll always be something that could be looked at. As it stands though, I'm not eager to know more.

Speaking strictly for myself, I just think that limiting SiTW into one 'base' effectively? it diminishes the sheer terror that it should be bringing.
One of the things I miss most from the old, old books was the special scenario/mission in there. It feels perfect for something like that...although this discussion has made me think about how to tweak the previous iteration of how Canticles of the Omnissiah(three tiered, based upon number of units on the field) to make a scalable effect. More Nids, more Shade!


Back on topic: There's a lot of room for some interesting prospects on this.

 Elbows wrote:
Tau could get a hyper-tech version, a bunch of holograms, void shields, etc. Stuff like that could have some similar rules, abilities just to fit in.

They could. Especially if they do it in the translucent plastic like parts of their defense line.

The other option that would be cool for Tau is if they roll out a psychic race (either established or new) in the Tau alliance, which could let them do new models as well as psychic effects. I'm hoping for that, just because it might mean the 'Awakening' isn't just 40K Endless Spells. I'd love to get a plastic Ork Weirdboy with Possessed Snotling, or, dare I dream, Ol' Zogwort and some squigs.

Please for the love of god can endless spells stay in Aos. I am not buying models for my damn psychic powers. Next we'll have the fething terrain pieces that cost 40 quid a pop and are an auto include for every army. Anything to gouge us further.

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Please for the love of god can endless spells stay in Aos. I am not buying models for my damn psychic powers. Next we'll have the fething terrain pieces that cost 40 quid a pop and are an auto include for every army. Anything to gouge us further.

So long as there's a trade off with points like in Sigmar it really shouldn't be a problem. It should be a valid choice to not use them, but they'd be there for people who like it.

I'm kind of neutral on them personally, but think it's very likely they will be added to 40k in some form.

I don't like them in AoS and would like them even less in 40K.

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Please for the love of god can endless spells stay in Aos. I am not buying models for my damn psychic powers. Next we'll have the fething terrain pieces that cost 40 quid a pop and are an auto include for every army. Anything to gouge us further.

Make your own. Buying terrain and tokens is bs, especially when in the past GW would encourage you to just make them.

So, if this event is about psykers awakening en masse and every faction gets something, does that mean Pariahs are going to return? Because that would be fething awesome.
I want my next-generation nightmare makers back.

Could this possibly point to GK Primaris Marines?

Do you reckon the symbol is the astra telepathica symbol, or an Eldar symbol?

Honestly, if these are 40k endless spells I'll be disappointed. Endless Spells are IMHO a terrible idea in Sigmar.

Then you better prepare to be disappointed...

You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...

In AOS there are Factions that don't have spells at all much like Tau, so I wouldn't count it automatic that the 40k Factions will all have them.

 Da-Rock wrote:
In AOS there are Factions that don't have spells at all much like Tau, so I wouldn't count it automatic that the 40k Factions will all have them.

From the article

All we’ll say for now is that this is a new, galaxy-spanning event that’s going to have a significant impact on every Warhammer 40,000 faction

 Elbows wrote:
Then you better prepare to be disappointed...

You know what's better than a psychic phase? A psychic phase which asks customers to buy more miniatures...

Someone give this man (or woman) a free sandwich and a beer!!

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Da-Rock wrote:
In AOS there are Factions that don't have spells at all much like Tau, so I wouldn't count it automatic that the 40k Factions will all have them.

From the article

All we’ll say for now is that this is a new, galaxy-spanning event that’s going to have a significant impact on every Warhammer 40,000 faction

To be fair, getting killed by something you've no access to yourself could have significant impact on your faction.