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The idea of this list is simple.

Now that SM have Bolter discipline, how far can that rule be taken so you are pumping a HUGE amount of shots each turn?


Chapter Selection: None

Chapter Tactics: Bolter Fusilades, Long range marksmen

Batallion: 8 cp

Operative Requisition Sanctioned: 85pt - 2cp VINDICARE

Relics: 1 (-1cp)

Specialist Detachment: Indomitus Crusaders

Beta rules


HQ

Primaris Captain (WARLORD)
Chapter Master (-2CP)
Relic: Bellicos Bolt Rifle
Power Sword
TRAIT: Iron Resolve
86


Primaris Lieutenant
M/C Auto Bolt Rifle
69

Techmarine (FIELD COMMANDER)
Trait: Greyshield
Chainsword
Storm Bolter
Servo Harness (-1CP)
58

TROOPS

Intercessor Squad (7 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
120

Intercessor Squad (7 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
120

Intercessor Squad (7 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
120

Scout Squad (10 man)
10 Camo Cloaks
10 Sniper Rifles
160

ELITES

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

FAST ATTACK

Inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

Inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

HEAVY SUPPORT

Rapier Carrier
Quad Heavy Bolter
76

Rapier Carrier
Quad Heavy Bolter
76

Thunderfire Cannon
92

1998


With Bolter Discipline in effect and every ranged weapon getting +3" range I think that's a pretty good gunline.

You could easily make this into a brigade for extra cp. I think the rappers should be something other than heavy bolters. 1 knight will make you sad face

Rapiers being heavy bolters is due to points constriction, ideally they'd be quad launchers

Brigade is not so easy cause you need 6 troops which pushes points up

You could have 4x5 intersessors and 2x5 man scouts and then you have +7 CP. And this list would be better as iron fists. Ignoring cover and exploding 6s will be more useful than 3" range and you'll score more hits with exploding 6s than reroll 1s.

Weight of fire might do the job for AT although more heavy bolters like centurions, might be more useful vs knights than the inceptors.

you mean imperial fists surely

 Corennus wrote:
you mean imperial fists surely

I do indeed!! Half asleep this morning

ok.......let's see

Chapter Selection: Imperial Fists

Chapter Tactics:

Brigade: 12 cp

Operative Requisition Sanctioned: 85pt - 2cp VINDICARE

Relics: 1 (-1cp)

Specialist Detachment: Indomitus Crusaders

Beta rules


HQ

Primaris Captain (WARLORD)
Chapter Master (-2CP)
Relic: Bellicos Bolt Rifle
Power Sword
TRAIT: Iron Resolve
86


Primaris Lieutenant
M/C Auto Bolt Rifle
69

Techmarine (FIELD COMMANDER)
Trait: Greyshield
Chainsword
Storm Bolter
Servo Harness (-1CP)
58

TROOPS

Intercessor Squad (5 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
86

Intercessor Squad (5 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
86

Intercessor Squad (5 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
86

Intercessor Squad (5 man)
Aux Grenade Launcher
86

Scout Squad (5 man)
5 Sniper Rifles
Camo Cloaks x 5
80

Scout Squad (5 man)
5 Sniper Rifles
Camo Cloaks x 5
80

ELITES

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

Aggressor Squad (4 man)
Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets
Fragstorm Grenade Launchers
148

FAST ATTACK

Inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

Inceptor Squad (4 man)
Assault Bolters
164

HEAVY SUPPORT

Rapier Carrier
Quad Launcher
85

Rapier Carrier
Quad Launcher
85

Thunderfire Cannon
92

2000





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so that's a vindicare,

4 rapid fire bolt rifle intercessor squads

3 aggressor squads

3 inceptor squads

and 2 rapiers with quad launchers which can be repaired by the 2 techmarines

Yeah you do not want to be playing this list turn 2 when the aggressors are double shooting and assault doctrine is on the go. Only thing that will be difficult is knights, but not impossible.

Also because you're exploding on 6s you'll still be hitting well against -to hit spam.

the only way this list falls down is if they're pulled into CC

The exploding 6s will help with that if you stick chapter master and lieutenant next to agressors, you'll kill 15 of those 30 da jumping boyz.

Other option is to have a phobos captain with vox espiritum for 15" no deepstrike bubble. It'll stop bloodletter bombs in their tracks.

i was thinking captain with the intercessors but could put him with the aggressors.