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Hey guys just wondering if you can help please. I’m having issues with coating my storm raven for grey knights. I’ve got a black undercoat then layers of leadbelcher then iron breaker and rune fang highlights. I’m finding a need quite a few layers of leadbelcher and iron breaker as the black undercoat keeps streaming through. Is this possibly because my leadbelcher is a good few years old or just natural with such large surface of black undercoat and metal layering?

Thanks for your help.

You might be painting over the black with mostly the acrylic binder. Make sure you’re stirring up your metallic paints thoroughly. All the metal pigment might have condensed at the bottom, and shaking isn’t always enough to get it mixed back up. Take a toothpick and really go at it, then try it again. Alternatively get a new pot of paint.

Thanks mate, I’ll give that a go

allso if the paint is thin it will have issues covering the black.

A layer of grey will help cover the black.

Metallic paints are predominantly translucent. It heavily depends on the layer underneath.

Can we get a pic of the problem OP? I've always found Leadbelcher to cover really well over black but perhaps as Badablack says you may be using the binding agent to paint with instead of the actual paint. Just fyi you wouldn't be the first to do this - I once painted the entire Assault on Black Reach dreadnought using just the binding agent of Mordian Blue foundation!

Or just go to a different (and, in my opinion better) metallic paint. Vallejo Metal Color paints cover extremely well and are airbrush thin right out of the bottle (i.e. there is, in my experience, really no need to ever thin them further). I'm not sure just which is exactly equivalent to Leadbelcher though, since I don't have any GW metallics.

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Or just go to a different (and, in my opinion better) metallic paint. Vallejo Metal Color paints cover extremely well and are airbrush thin right out of the bottle (i.e. there is, in my experience, really no need to ever thin them further). I'm not sure just which is exactly equivalent to Leadbelcher though, since I don't have any GW metallics.

Plus, Vallejo paints give you some incredible forearms from all that jerking off shaking

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I really appreciate it. After scraping the bottom with a toothpick and shaking the pot the coverage is much less translucent. It’s still a bit streaky but I think that’s more down to my experimenting with a water palette now I’ve recently come back to the hobby.


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I'm still getting streaks guys, would a spray of lead belcher be ok over the sprayed undercoat of chaos black or do you think multiple sprays risks blocking detail? I've only ever used a brush to apply paint over an undercoat, sorry for the noob questions.

Kharn_The_Betrayer_87 wrote:
Thanks for all the feedback guys, I really appreciate it. After scraping the bottom with a toothpick and shaking the pot the coverage is much less translucent. It’s still a bit streaky but I think that’s more down to my experimenting with a water palette now I’ve recently come back to the hobby.


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I'm still getting streaks guys, would a spray of lead belcher be ok over the sprayed undercoat of chaos black or do you think multiple sprays risks blocking detail? I've only ever used a brush to apply paint over an undercoat, sorry for the noob questions.

Do a thin layer of grey primer (1/2 coat, not fully blocked out).

You could lightly mist the area with a spray, it wouldn't hurt just don't go in too heavy.

You could drop a couple of 5mm cut sprue into the pot and use it as an agitator.

If the metallic paint is too watered down it wont work as well.