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Regarding the two deathstars and the exegol fleet... We can ad hoc some strategy on to it.

The first death star existed to scare the rebels, and was intentionally designed with a fatal flaw to teach them they could kill a deathstar.

The second deathstar was never really designed as a super weapon in the same way as the first was being used. It was always designed as a trap. The rebels had already learnt they can destroy a fully operational deathstar, so an incomplete one would be a cakewalk, right? Actually, no. It was designed for a huge battle of attrition which would wipe out most of the rebel fleet.

So we see the deathstar projects were actually red herrings designed to make the rebels over commit and lose most of their fleet, thereby allowing the exegol fleet being deployed with impunity, instead of being deployed and then defeated ship by ship by a cohesive rebel fleet.

I didn't mind bitter old Luke per se. It's the how, not the what that bothered me.

I quite liked bitter Luke. I'm just really sad that it didn't translate into a more sarcastic Luke Force Ghost mocking Kylo for his failures in 9.

 Easy E wrote:
I liked bitter old Luke. Very reflective of real life. You do something to change the world, and realize it didn't change squat.

Right. Having a republic that doesn't oppress and kill non-humans and non-conformists is exactly like an empire that commits genocide.
Nothing changed!

 LunarSol wrote:
I quite liked bitter Luke. I'm just really sad that it didn't translate into a more sarcastic Luke Force Ghost mocking Kylo for his failures in 9.

That was indeed a missed opportunity especially considering that they foreshadow the idea in VIII. Then again, the same thing happened with Kenobi's threat of killing him making him more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine. That never materialised either.

epronovost wrote:
Then again, the same thing happened with Kenobi's threat of killing him making him more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine. That never materialised either.

Although it turns out now that ghost Kenobi could have called down a lightning strike on Vader, or just smacked him with a lightsaber. He just didn't for some reason. Because ghost jedi are jerks, I guess?

Jedi in the three trilogies are thus:

Jedi in Episode 1-3: Knights

Survivors during Episode 4-6: Ronin

Force-Users in Episodes 7-9: Emerging superheroes

The new trilogy is just a product of the times. Marvel is awesome, but with the downside that everyone right now tries to make their movies like superhero movies.

I think it was Jez Goodwin that said on one of the warhammer community podcasts that sometimes it is worth twisting the canon to better suit the media/consumption of the art. Your suggestion on the ‘emergent super heroes’ star wars seems to align to that.

Which is a terrible trend if true. If the story has to be changed to suit everyone's taste, then there is no coherent story, just another cash grab that is full of inconsistencies, as why bother with such trifling matters as a consistent, competently written narrative if it makes you money?

 Lord Damocles wrote:

epronovost wrote:
Then again, the same thing happened with Kenobi's threat of killing him making him more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine. That never materialised either.

Although it turns out now that ghost Kenobi could have called down a lightning strike on Vader, or just smacked him with a lightsaber. He just didn't for some reason. Because ghost jedi are jerks, I guess?

It's certainly all retcon, but worth remembering that killing Vader wouldn't have accomplished anything. That's sort of the whole point of RotJ. The Emperor is simply too powerful to take down in a fight, he's taken out essentially by the machinations of fate and for that to work, Vader needs to be very much alive.

LunarSol wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:

epronovost wrote:
Then again, the same thing happened with Kenobi's threat of killing him making him more powerful than Vader could possibly imagine. That never materialised either.

Although it turns out now that ghost Kenobi could have called down a lightning strike on Vader, or just smacked him with a lightsaber. He just didn't for some reason. Because ghost jedi are jerks, I guess?

It's certainly all retcon, but worth remembering that killing Vader wouldn't have accomplished anything. That's sort of the whole point of RotJ. The Emperor is simply too powerful to take down in a fight, he's taken out essentially by the machinations of fate and for that to work, Vader needs to be very much alive.

While I don't subscribe to the sort of video gamey interpretation that force users unlock specific abilities as they level up - I'm pretty sure if it was you could safely bet Yoda could do stuff with it that Kenobi could not.

They both ultimately do the same thing though: provide wise council at a critical moment, and spur Luke on to save the galaxy.

AegisGrimm wrote:Jedi in the three trilogies are thus:

Jedi in Episode 1-3: Knights

Survivors during Episode 4-6: Ronin

Force-Users in Episodes 7-9: Emerging superheroes

The new trilogy is just a product of the times. Marvel is awesome, but with the downside that everyone right now tries to make their movies like superhero movies.

I think Jedi in the prequels are more like monks, bang on about the superhero thing though. I don't think I've ever heard someone articulate my problem with Rey so succinctly.