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There are supposed to be other creatures that are either daemons or unusual either in the webway or some of the warp. Are there possibly demons that serve none of the 4 main ones in there too. Would the legion of the damned count as some form of this? I also heard something about enslavers once.

I apologize for not being clear but what else is in the warp besides daemons, tainted worlds, madness and raw emotions basically being the warp or the daemons that represent them.

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There's quuuizno, chaos god of sandwhiches.

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Well, Gork and Mork are there, and at least 1 Eldar God. Probably a bunch of Orkz, Tyranids, and other people who got swallowed up by Warp storms as well, if you're fine with things that aren't SUPPOSED to be there. Various fragments of Emperor psyche are around, and a few Primarchs as well (even of you don't count the traitors). And, of course, all those Chaos Marines.

But this is all pretty common knowledge.
   
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The warp is a reflection of all emotion from the psionic emenations of any sentient being. The more psionically powerful they are the greater the presence in the warp. The more an emotion is fealt the greater the presence in the warp.

The chaos gods are so powerful because the universe of 40k sucks ass and those things are so pervasive in the universe. But that doesn't mean there are no positive emotion deamons in there. Just that they are rarer and drowned out by all the terrible. If there is a emotion it has a presence in the warp. The swirling chaos of the warp isn't just dangers because blood and hatred, desire run amok, disease and pestilence, and pure chaotic change are everywhere. It's dangerous because it's so overwhelmingly unpredictable. You could find yourself in what appears to be a lush paradise of flowers and fruit trees where your senses are overwhelmed by the perfume of the most wondrous natural splendor and want to never leave, then suddenly have it shift to a desolate waste filled with horned devils trying to strip your flesh from your bones.

The warp encompasses a reflection of all things.


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Know No Fear showed the Word Bearers summoning thousand of daemons that did not seem to conform to any of the 'standard' designs. In fact, the only daemon that I recognized in the book as aligned with anyone was Epidemius. In the book The Emperor's Legion, there's another type of daemon that looked like a human fetus on legs. Furies are technically non-aligned daemons that get forced into the armies of the Chaos gods. In terms of other stuff, there is wildlife on planets in the warp, much of it twisted. Chaos warhounds, which can be played in Age of Sigmar, are one such species, as are the Dark Eldar's Khymerae.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
There's quuuizno, chaos god of sandwhiches.


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There are also non-god entities in the Warp - living beings of flesh that are native to that realm, or at least migrated to it. Enslavers are one such race. There's also a psychic bug (Psyneunnin? Can't remember) that's like a wasp that uses psykers for egg laying.

   
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Crocalids? Is that what those Warp travelling Gators are called? Are they still a thing?
   
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 flandarz wrote:
Crocalids? Is that what those Warp travelling Gators are called? Are they still a thing?


Yes, but they're not actually warp creatures, just creatures that travel through the warp to migrate to other worlds.

   
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Pretty much any and all gods that are being worshipped. If someone worships the Spaghetti Monster then it's there.

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You have warp beasts that are neither demons nor gods. They prey on shipping (gives you an idea of size), one can seemly detect ships outside of the warp and pull them in aka a Warp based Kraken. Looked like a massive fish head with tentacles, but this look was due to the majority of it still being in the warp. Few other beasts but I can't remember their details in full.
   
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Furies, loads of furies (you asked for undivided daemons). Other undivided daemons aren't really mentioned (aside from Belakor), because we don't have models for these. If GW should ever revive the undivided part of Chaos we'll probably read about other undivided daemons as well.
   
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Also the enslavers.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Enslavers

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There are non-aligned daemons(like Furies), as well as minor deities. Many of these non-aligned entities will actually predate the Big 4 who are relatively 'recent' existences. And of course Gork and Mork.

The Big 4 are so powerful only because they represent more general emotions and beliefs, and over time they coalesced from the emotions of all sentient races as they represent things that are in common with all psychic beings. the only exception being Slannesh who came into existence all at once because of the Eldar's depravity. Thats not to say other races didn't contribute to Slannesh, they all did, but the eldar were the biggest and most sudden.

Once the Big 4 existed, they became powerful enough to contribute to their own empowerment by interacting with mortals. A self-perpetrating system, which is why they are so powerful. Also, being in the Warp they exist outside of time, and thus can effect reality in times prior to their existence. Essentially, each Chaos god had a specific point in time they came into existence, however once they began to exist they simultaneously began to exist at every point in time. Enabling them to retroactively effect the universe and ensure their own existence.

This same thing happens in small scale with minor warp deities and daemons as well. Each coming into existence through the actions of mortals at specific points in time, but then they retroactively exist in both the past and the future and not just from when they were first worshiped.

The warp will also be filled with the detritus of the mortal races that have plied the warp with their vessels. Garbage, ships, whole planets. Even stuff that might be considered "animal" life is native to the warp. Eldritch abominations that are not sentient in the way we understand it. Just creatures of the warp. Psychunniun are one of these. Psychic parasites, and other Lovecraftian things.

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Prev wrote:
You have warp beasts that are neither demons nor gods. They prey on shipping (gives you an idea of size), one can seemly detect ships outside of the warp and pull them in aka a Warp based Kraken. Looked like a massive fish head with tentacles, but this look was due to the majority of it still being in the warp. Few other beasts but I can't remember their details in full.


This reminds me of an article in the old Battlefleet Gothic supplement, Warp Storm. Not strictly fluff-related per se, but it might have inspired the fluff above.

Back in the day GW did some Battlefleet Gothic games at an event, around the time of the original release of BFG. They made up some warp beast rules for the games and had people kitbash gribbly space horrors to use on the table, attacking the players' ships. One of them was just an old 'fishhead' sea monster from the Man O' War fantasy game, mounted on a BFG base to look like it was sticking its jaws into realspace while the rest of it stayed in the warp. IIRC they gave it the rule that any ship that touched it would be instantly devoured, no matter how big and powerful the ship in question. Apparently it was a bit of a laugh seeing huge battleships turn tail and flee from the little space fishface.
   
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Zenithfleet wrote:

This reminds me of an article in the old Battlefleet Gothic supplement, Warp Storm. Not strictly fluff-related per se, but it might have inspired the fluff above.

Back in the day GW did some Battlefleet Gothic games at an event, around the time of the original release of BFG. They made up some warp beast rules for the games and had people kitbash gribbly space horrors to use on the table, attacking the players' ships. One of them was just an old 'fishhead' sea monster from the Man O' War fantasy game, mounted on a BFG base to look like it was sticking its jaws into realspace while the rest of it stayed in the warp. IIRC they gave it the rule that any ship that touched it would be instantly devoured, no matter how big and powerful the ship in question. Apparently it was a bit of a laugh seeing huge battleships turn tail and flee from the little space fishface.


That is exactly the article I was talking about when I posted. I found my old BFG rule book, imperial fleet and copy of Warp Storm a few months back.
   
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Theres the new Undivided daemons in Warcry, the Raptoryx, which exists in 40k without a doubt

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There are indeed unaligned Daemons. Raptoryx, Furies, various ill described Daemon creatures.

In the original Realm of Chaos books, it explains that the point where Daemon ends and God begins is a difficult one. Other than those belonging to the Big Four (who are ultimately slivers of the whole), the Gods are simply immensely powerful Daemons.


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