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When announced by Games Workshop that there would be several Space Marine supplements, they gave us a picture, totaling 7, with the first two being revealed as Ultramarines and White Scars. That left Raven Guard, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists and Salamanders. One would have assumed that the 7th supplement would be the Black Templars, but we now see that there are being rolled into Psychic Awakening, along with others. So where is this 7th supplement and who do you think it will be?

they didn't it was 6 you're miscounting, faith and fervour is essentially the 7th in that it covers black templars

They showed 6 plus Codex, no?

 JohnnyHell wrote:
They showed 6 plus Codex, no?

Oh, my mistake! I was trying to remember without looking at the actual picture. Apologies.

So does this confirm BA, DA and SW will not be rereleased in supplement form?

Gitdakka wrote:
So does this confirm BA, DA and SW will not be rereleased in supplement form?

...*sigh* yes it confirms it, it's been confirmed for ages.

BrianDavion wrote:

Gitdakka wrote:
So does this confirm BA, DA and SW will not be rereleased in supplement form?

...*sigh* yes it confirms it, it's been confirmed for ages.

But that’s ok because no doubt Marines of all colours will get, as we have seen in FnF, 10x the rules of whatever NPC faction they happen to be up against in the PA books.

As a blood Angel's and grey knight player I can assure you that GW dont always share out the supergood marines rules with the more unique space marine factions

 WisdomLS wrote:
As a blood Angel's and grey knight player I can assure you that GW dont always share out the supergood marines rules with the more unique space marine factions

Shush! Stop ruining the narrative!

I wish they'd do a 7th, and make it Grey Knights. They need a heavy dosing of the Pimp Juice that normal marines got.

Well, I think the releases were restricted to first foundings.

 WisdomLS wrote:
As a blood Angel's and grey knight player I can assure you that GW dont always share out the supergood marines rules with the more unique space marine factions

If by "unique" you mean "like, four of them plus those eternally well-oiled dudes that hang out 'round the boss" then sure...

I kid because I love (and racing green is a really snazzy colour for power armour)

To be fair in among all the wailing and gnashing of teeth with people tearing clumps of there hair out and flogging themselves with there own torn up xenos/cms codex it seems to have been forgotten that for the majority of there existence space marines have been decidedly mediocre and that’s being generous.

Yes they have been some good periods for marines but they tend towards boring monobuilds caused by unintended rules interactions unrelated to the actual codex.

A big chunk of the time Marines have been gak has been parallel to a xenos/csm army being hideously broken normally for months and sometimes years. Pretty much every army has had its period in the sun Necrons,Elder,Tau,CSM, GSC even Orks some of these have had multiple periods of glory others just crushed entire editions.

Yet marines get there first good rules for quite sometime and within hours every xenos player collectively lost there gak, I’m not counting CSM because there always like that. Watching Elder players whine was delightfully hypocritical and entertaining at the same time considering the then current flying circus meta and the fact they have been breaking the game in various ways for years.

There seems to have been some kind of mass hysteria but other than sour grapes I cannot see why, I mean I guess some tournament players are upset that playing against marines is no longer free victory points. Also some people who invested heavily in cheese armies that are hard countered by some marines would be unhappy. Ahhh actually yeah ok nvm it makes sense now

SeanDrake wrote:
To be fair in among all the wailing and gnashing of teeth with people tearing clumps of there hair out and flogging themselves with there own torn up xenos/cms codex it seems to have been forgotten that for the majority of there existence space marines have been decidedly mediocre and that’s being generous.

Yes they have been some good periods for marines but they tend towards boring monobuilds caused by unintended rules interactions unrelated to the actual codex.

A big chunk of the time Marines have been gak has been parallel to a xenos/csm army being hideously broken normally for months and sometimes years. Pretty much every army has had its period in the sun Necrons,Elder,Tau,CSM, GSC even Orks some of these have had multiple periods of glory others just crushed entire editions.

Yet marines get there first good rules for quite sometime and within hours every xenos player collectively lost there gak, I’m not counting CSM because there always like that. Watching Elder players whine was delightfully hypocritical and entertaining at the same time considering the then current flying circus meta and the fact they have been breaking the game in various ways for years.

There seems to have been some kind of mass hysteria but other than sour grapes I cannot see why, I mean I guess some tournament players are upset that playing against marines is no longer free victory points. Also some people who invested heavily in cheese armies that are hard countered by some marines would be unhappy. Ahhh actually yeah ok nvm it makes sense now

yeah the amount of virtoil aimed at this release is absolutely not in line with the hate aimed at other factions when they've been OP. it's definatly more then JUST concern about rules balance.

SeanDrake wrote:
To be fair in among all the wailing and gnashing of teeth with people tearing clumps of there hair out and flogging themselves with there own torn up xenos/cms codex it seems to have been forgotten that for the majority of there existence space marines have been decidedly mediocre and that’s being generous.

Oh damn, they were mediocre for awhile, that answers everything.

So how long do they get to be utterly dominant? You know, asking for a friend who wants to know how long to stay the hell away from the game.

Idiotic rationalizations get idiotic responses.

 TwinPoleTheory wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:
To be fair in among all the wailing and gnashing of teeth with people tearing clumps of there hair out and flogging themselves with there own torn up xenos/cms codex it seems to have been forgotten that for the majority of there existence space marines have been decidedly mediocre and that’s being generous.

Oh damn, they were mediocre for awhile, that answers everything.

So how long do they get to be utterly dominant? You know, asking for a friend who wants to know how long to stay the hell away from the game.

Idiotic rationalizations get idiotic responses.

aaaand the point goes right over your head. the point is that there's almost always a powerhouse army in any edition. people seem to be a lot more accepting of it when it's not Marines, but suddenly a Marine army is best and it's the end of the world. I've got my own theory as to why, namely that a lot of xeno players in partiuclar seem this way.

BrianDavion wrote:
aaaand the point goes right over your head. the point is that there's almost always a powerhouse army in any edition. people seem to be a lot more accepting of it when it's not Marines, but suddenly a Marine army is best and it's the end of the world. I've got my own theory as to why, namely that a lot of xeno players in partiuclar seem this way.

No, I got your point, it's just that your point is an idiotic rationalization.

They wildly overcorrected on fixing SM and now we get to gak sandwiches for the next 6 months.

But hey, enjoy your army and whoever you can find to play against it.

Yeah we seem to have answered the question