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Didn't buy any and don't plan to.

I purchased CA18 and held off on CA19 because there’s nothing on in my area until next year. From what I’ve been reading GW really doesn’t deserve any money for that effort so I’m saving my pennies for whatever the Space Mutts get in Psychic Awakening, if it’s good I might even celebrate by getting a model with what not buying CA19 saved me.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 oni wrote:
I purchased all three (17, 18 & 19). It's worth it for the missions, finalized / formalized beta rules, officially printed updated points and added content.

To this day I'm still amazed at how many people get Big FAQ and beta rules wrong and confuse mission specific rules as being core game mechanics because they didn't purchased and read the current CA book. They read XYZ on the internet and assume it's correct. They would know better if they just purchased and read the current CA book. And it's a lot of people; an absolute alarmingly high number IMO.

The CA books also update [GASP!] all the terrain rules. Like holy fething gak... There are actually terrain rules! A lot of them even, AND they're intuitive. OMG! But instead "players" will whine and bitch that there aren't any terrain rules. Well... How about you buy the CA book and read it before falsely whining about not having terrain rules.

The only change to terrain rules IIRC is to woods.

I haven't dived into the terrain rules in CA19 yet, but IIRC, CA17 updated & added to the rulebook and then CA18 updated & added to CA17. So it's been an ongoing thing year to year.

I got it, but Im not sure if I need 2018 too, does anyone know if both are needed? I play CSM, and havent done anything other than paint for a few years now.

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
I got it, but Im not sure if I need 2018 too, does anyone know if both are needed? I play CSM, and havent done anything other than paint for a few years now.

No, CA19 totally invalidates CA18. Good for GW to sell you new, error riddled books by making your old, error riddled books unusable.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
I got it, but Im not sure if I need 2018 too, does anyone know if both are needed? I play CSM, and havent done anything other than paint for a few years now.

No, CA19 totally invalidates CA18. Good for GW to sell you new, error riddled books by making your old, error riddled books unusable.

Actually good for me because that means I dont need to buy out of date books at the very least

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
I got it, but Im not sure if I need 2018 too, does anyone know if both are needed? I play CSM, and havent done anything other than paint for a few years now.

You don't need '18 for Matched Play, as '19 has all the rules changes, points and the missions most places (other than ITC) will be using. The Sisters mini-dex that was a big part of '18 was superseded by the recently released Codex and the Renegade Knights mini-dex was replacement by Codex: Chaos Knights.

If you play T'au and want to field "The Eight" - they are not reproduced in '19 - so you'd need '18 to field them. Since you only play CSM, I wouldn't worry about it. As they weren't included in '19, they may be reproduced elsewhere next year (possibly in the CA'19 FAQ or in Psychic Awakening: The Greater Good).

'18 also has the rules for Ork Looted Wagons, Custom Characters (both Open Play only), Battle Honours and Cities of Death (both Narrative). Those are all pretty optional. Cities of Death was mostly replaced by Urban Conquest - leaving not much value left in the '18 book.

i just borrow one and update points in my codex.

I buy them for the points cost, and 2018 for the Sisters codex in addition.

Sometimes, the missions get used too, but mostly we use ITC missions.

 thepowerfulwill wrote:
I got it, but Im not sure if I need 2018 too, does anyone know if both are needed? I play CSM, and havent done anything other than paint for a few years now.

You do not need it for rules purposes, but there are some great missions in it. If you like having a large variety of missions to play I recommend getting it.

I'll see if someone in my gaming group buys it, if not, I will. Points aren't the reason though, but I was pretty fond of the other things in there, like veteran rules, refined terrain rules, Cities of Death, character rules and of course missions.

Yep - I bought CA 2018 and I just bought CA 2019 today. The new missions look good and I'm looking forward to reading through it now.

I find my playgroup buys about one copy per three people and shares them around.

The build-a-character rules was the only reason I asked for my friend’s copy rather than let it end up in the bin.

 AnomanderRake wrote:
I find my playgroup buys about one copy per three people and shares them around.

Pretty much this. Snag all the necessary rules changes, and point values - jot them down...and move on.

One word...Battlescribe

I found a pdf of 2019 easy enough.

 Brutus_Apex wrote:
One word...Battlescribe

I'll give another word that applies to BS: Mistakes

Chapter Approved might as well be called "WH40k: Mistakes"


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 Brutus_Apex wrote:
One word...Battlescribe

From the comments, almost no one seems to be buying the book for the point updates.

How many rules updates (Boots on the ground, etc) are only printed in previous versions?
I got the softback '17, the digital '18, and expect to get '19 before I next play 40k. I don't recall seeing '17s rules in '18.

 Jidmah wrote:
Chapter Approved might as well be called "WH40k: Mistakes"


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 Brutus_Apex wrote:
One word...Battlescribe

From the comments, almost no one seems to be buying the book for the point updates.

TBF: The points beeing hidden behind in essence a paywall (that is easily circumvented) is a gakky thing that GW does.
However, the missions GW has provided sofar in them are actually surprisingly something that has hand and foot.

But considering that we have an about 25% ammount of people sofar that are not going to buy i think it speaks vollumes.

When you look at the numbers, just as many people have bought CA2019 as people which have never bought a single one. It's probably safe to assume that over half of the people here will not pay for CA, which is pretty damning when you consider that roughly 70% buy their codices.

 Jidmah wrote:
When you look at the numbers, just as many people have bought CA2019 as people which have never bought a single one. It's probably safe to assume that over half of the people here will not pay for CA, which is pretty damning when you consider that roughly 70% buy their codices.

I am surprised actually that it is even about 50%.
Also i feel like a lot of that is coloured by the incessant releases of books of frankly questionable quality.

I normally don't agree with BCB, but the ammount of rulessources is at this point just daft.

 Jidmah wrote:
When you look at the numbers, just as many people have bought CA2019 as people which have never bought a single one. It's probably safe to assume that over half of the people here will not pay for CA, which is pretty damning when you consider that roughly 70% buy their codices.

Do they? Where's this stat from bud?

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
When you look at the numbers, just as many people have bought CA2019 as people which have never bought a single one. It's probably safe to assume that over half of the people here will not pay for CA, which is pretty damning when you consider that roughly 70% buy their codices.

Do they? Where's this stat from bud?

The poll this thread was created for?

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:
When you look at the numbers, just as many people have bought CA2019 as people which have never bought a single one. It's probably safe to assume that over half of the people here will not pay for CA, which is pretty damning when you consider that roughly 70% buy their codices.

Do they? Where's this stat from bud?

The poll this thread was created for?

The bit about codexes? Where? Have I missed something?

Not that I disbelieve the 70% stat, I'm just curious as to where it's been gleaned.

I dunno, did GW release numbers at one point?

I made a poll some time ago. But feel free to just create a new one, numbers might have changed in the meantime.

 Jidmah wrote:
I made a poll some time ago. But feel free to just create a new one, numbers might have changed in the meantime.

Nah, as I say it seems about right. Just curious as to the source.

 Jidmah wrote:
I made a poll some time ago. But feel free to just create a new one, numbers might have changed in the meantime.

that is actually quite interesting imo.

so we can assume that a substantial part of the 40k community allready probably shared their dexes arround.
Even moresoe with CA it seems.

That is still a higher reinvestment turn out then models probably and that would verify why GW has such a book fetish.