2024 Infinity News and Rumors - Army and profile updates (inc. Reinforcements). p.67.

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**Vertrucio**

Gone beyond the scope of the topic, but...

Why not both?

Let people use the reference they prefer.

I prefer an army sheet, but I'm picky about how its laid out. But I see cards just as useful. I prefer having the one sheet to look at, and I can easily move everything together. Knowing how app development works, it's not easy to just create a card output feature for the app. But, if you couch it as a way for dynamic output that can fit on various devices, it's possible to justify the cost.

Buuut, let's give the app team time enough to finish the N4 switch first. Then we'll worry about output styles. Until then, just create your own custom cards and write in the number values, or ask some graphic designer fans of infinity to create templates for people to use.

**Soul Samurai**

Personally I like for a specific model or unit (or in this case it would be profile I suppose) to have a card, preferably one with nice artwork of the model/unit. I can then hold the cards in a standard card box, mark damage or resources on them if appropriate (not a big deal in Infinity, but it still wouldn't hurt to be able to mark off wounds on two-wound models or ammo for rocket launchers etc), and put together lists by browsing and pulling cards rather than printing out a list each time or having to keep referring to my phone mid-game.

I do plenty of stuff digitally in my life, so one of the things I like about tabletop gaming is that it's a tactile experience: I like models, books, cards, being in the same room as other human beings instead of using voice chat or sending texts, etc.

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Vertrucio wrote:
Buuut, let's give the app team time enough to finish the N4 switch first. Then we'll worry about output styles. Until then, just create your own custom cards and write in the number values, or ask some graphic designer fans of infinity to create templates for people to use.

Fair enough. I could something like that; I've made card creators for Warmahordes in the past and I just finished a simple card creator for Zone Raiders (to be honest you could probably throw useable Infinity cards together with one of those two if you were so inclined; though it might require a bit of work). If CB doesn't make official cards available for Infinity I was probably going to throw something simple together myself anyway.

**Red Harvest**

Could be something for Code One, but not really for N4. Aristeia! has the cards; Defiance will have the cards.

Speaking of Code One, We should see teasers for Operación: Kåldstrøm start this week, if the pre-order is 2 weeks before Adepticon. (on the 11th maybe?)

**solkan**

Cards in boxes sound like a great idea until...
- There’s an errata and the text on the card is wrong.
- There’s an edition change and the card is wrong.
- The cost of each box increases by X% to cover the additional costs.

People preparing cards for the boxes and printing them themselves is a great idea, if you like that sort of hobby work (I write this as someone who likes making tokens and writing up the occasional reference sheet for a game...).

Maybe CB will get extra staff for Army development for features like ‘card printing’....

**Icarium**

Having tried to make my own cards the issue is the numerous profiles for each troop type in infinity. One option would be to have unit cards for each profile (with special rules and stats) and then smaller cards for equipment (with range bands and other details) that you can place next to the unit cards based on what you selected. Hard to keep information secret using this method but could work for Code 1 where they are trying to make the game more accessible to new players and there are less weapons and profiles.

**ImAGeek**

From Facebook:

Info from Impetuous Order

The PanOceania Starter Pack, containing the following models:
3 Fusiliers
1 WinterFor Orc Troop
1 Nøkken, Special Intervention and Recon Team
1 Infirmarers of Saint Lazarus
1 Knight of Justice (KOJ) of the Order of the Hospital

The Yu Jing Starter Pack, containing the following models:
3 Zhanshi
1 Daofei Tactical Section
1 Guilang Skirmishers
1 Hùndùn Ambush Unit
1 Jujak Regiment, Korean Shock Infantry

Edit: bit more info

Operation: Kaldstrøm Battle Pack is a box containing 14 miniatures belonging to two different armies, an introductory ruleset, cardboard scenery, dice—everything you need to start collecting Infinity CodeOne or just to complete your collection!
In addition to this, Operation: Kaldstrøm is the official way to introduce yourself to the Infinity CodeOne ruleset, as it includes a full color rulebook with 5 tutorial missions to teach you how to play, making it easy to understand the Infinity CodeOne core mechanics.
In this booklet you will also find the background and troop profiles of all the troops in the Battle Pack. There is also a brief guide to the Infinity universe and advice on exploring it in more detail.
Operation: Kaldstrøm contains 2 totally new Starter Packs of two brand new factions: PanOceania the hyperpower of the Infinity universe, and Yu Jing, PanOceania’s main contender -, its perpetual opponent. A total of 14 highly detailed metal miniatures!

The PanOceania Starter Pack, containing the following models:
3 Fusiliers
1 WinterFor Orc Troop
1 Nøkken, Special Intervention and Recon Team
1 Infirmarers of Saint Lazarus
1 Knight of Justice (KOJ) of the Order of the Hospital

The Yu Jing Starter Pack, containing the following models:
3 Zhanshi
1 Daofei Tactical Section
1 Guilang Skirmishers
1 Hùndùn Ambush Unit
1 Jujak Regiment, Korean Shock Infantry

To complete the game experience, the Battle Pack includes a ready-to-play, double-sided printed cardboard scenery (4 Buildings, 4 Holoads, 2 Public Consoles, and 9 Blast Barriers), a Game Mat, 6 twenty-sided dices (3 for PanOceania and 3 for Yu Jing), and also cardboard Markers, Templates and a measuring tool. Everything you need to start playing!

ONLY DURING PRE-ORDER
Kunai Solutions Mercenary Ninjas Pre-order Exclusive
Armies: Panoceania /Yu Jing / O-12 / Combined Army
MSRP: FREE (this miniature is including inside box Operation Kaldstrøm)

Security resources is what Kunai Solutions offers. And for this, the cover company of the Takemura ninja clan, that means espionage, thievery, assassination and many other illegal activities for money. After all, they are one of the honorless clans who betrayed the Japanese Emperor to keep working for Yu Jing, and also for PanOceania or any other who pays well. What else can you expect from them?

Dire Foes Mission Pack Alpha: Retaliation Convention Exclusive Pre-release
REF: 280031-0821
ARMY: PanOceania /Yu Jing
MSRP: $40,99

[CODEONE PRODUCT]

PanOceania knows that a power does not maintain its supremacy by allowing any attack against it to go unpunished. Following the events in Kaldstrøm, a representative of the Yu Jing diplomatic corps who is visiting Huangdi will be the target of a team led by Troll-hunter Gunnar Lundmark. Of course, with Imperial Agent Adil Mehmut of the Special Division as the diplomat’s bodyguard, the task will not be easy.

**Red Harvest**

Eh? No week of teasers?

Well then, Show me the minis, CB.

Looks like the same sort of terrain as Wildfire. And, sadly, probably just the single 2'x3' mat, instead of 2 of them, or a 3'x3' mat. Sounds like the basic QSR rules too. Hmmm.

Troll-Hunter will be a unit now? (the Dire Foes Pan-O mini)

**LunarSol**

Not super fond of the new box art. The N3 style really sold the armies well. This was never going to appeal to me though; no love for either faction. Excited to see the minis still.

**Red_Five**

I love the idea of a mercenary Ninja working for PanO!

**Kanluwen**

Ninja's dumb, that's now two 2-player sets JSA players have to part out for an iconic unit for them.

Neither of those sets do anything for the JSA either.

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Red Harvest wrote:

Troll-Hunter will be a unit now? (the Dire Foes Pan-O mini)

It's a title, seemingly. Expect another Fusilier--maybe if lucky it will be a Nisse.

**Monkeysloth**

it's a merc that isn't usable for JSA. Sure you can use it as a proxy but it probably won't look like the others.

**Kanluwen**

What "others"?

The only modern Ninja model is locked in Red Veil.

**Monkeysloth**

And it probably wont look like that. You're arguing over a dumb point.

**Kalamadea**

Why'd you have to say that? I thought the art looked pretty good
until you mentioned the N3 box sets and you're right, it's nowhere near as good as the N3 boxes. This would be fine for a Dire Foes box, but the N3 sets really set the whole scene and gave a better feel for the box contents. This looks more like the art from the N3 rulebook, which was also fine but hardly inspiring.

Still looking forward to it since I play both factions. Sort of. I think it's been 3 years since my PanO hit the table, I mostly play Invincible Army when I get to play anymore

**Kanluwen**

So how do you tell a VIRD Orc from a NCA Orc?

You've decided to start an argument over what you think is going to happen. Yeah, I might be wrong and it looks wildly different to the Red Veil Ninja. More likely however, it's going to be nothing but a weird profile.

**Kalamadea**

Right now the difference between the ORCs of different sectorials is the paintjob, I hope that continues especially since this will likely replace the Icestorm ORC and the Icestorm Fusiliers. I really hope we don't get Fusiliers with long coats or anything too sectorial specific, not that those models even need to be resculpted. I'd be fine with repackaging the existing models.

As for the ninja, a separate blister with non-bow arms would be better than another "merc" that only a couple factions can use. Very weird that it's listed as working for Pano, YJ, O-12 and Combined Army of all things.

**Red_Five**

Kalamadea wrote:

As for the ninja, a separate blister with non-bow arms would be better than another "merc" that only a couple factions can use. Very weird that it's listed as working for Pano, YJ, O-12 and Combined Army of all things.

Those are going to be the first four armies available in Code One (i.e. the newest and second newest Operation boxes). So my bet is that this model will be available to all factions, eventually.

**.Mikes.**

Four posts. It took four posts from the reveal of a new thing to descend into arguments.

Ah, Dakka....

**Monkeysloth**

.Mikes. wrote:
Four posts. It took four posts from the reveal of a new thing to descend into arguments.

Ah, Dakka....

We have to keep expectations set.

As for the cover art. It's fine. I never really liked the operation boxes (icestorm was the best) but they've gotten progressively worse and worse with the one for 0-12 being comically bad. Like Why all the sudden anime eyes?

What the operation boxes did well is showcase the stuff in the box and factions as opposed to this which just shows one unit from each side.

**Kalamadea**

Monkeysloth wrote:

What the operation boxes did well is showcase the stuff in the box and factions as opposed to this which just shows one unit from each side.

Exactly. Whether you like or don't like the anime-styled artwork (I happened to love it), they showcased the sets brilliantly. The art in the Code One preview would be fine, if they had included all the models in the box instead of 1 model from each side, and they were in some sort of base reminiscent of whatever terrain and gamemat comes in the box. Instead, the Kaldstrom preview shows 2 opposing models in what either could be a duel of the fates in front of an alien power source or an on-stage dance-off with the floodlights set a little too high

**Alpharius**

Is there any art/representation of what the minis in Operation: Kaldstrøm are going to look like?

**Red_Five**

Is no one going to mention that it is a vertical display now instead of a horizontal one?

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Alpharius wrote:
Is there any art/representation of what the minis in Operation: Kaldstrøm are going to look like?

Pretty sure this was a leak from an online store who released the pre-order too soon, so we will probably not see the models until CB decides to release a video.

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:
Is there any art/representation of what the minis in Operation: Kaldstrøm are going to look like?

Nope, nothing.

**Alpharius**

I'd really only want the PanO part of the set - not interested in Yu Jing at all, and I already have the Red Veil stuff (for the Haqqislam parts!) and that ninja...

Those PanO minis are going to have to really knock it out of the park, or all be for Svalarheima!

**.Mikes.**

I have no interest in Code One. However, I have every interest in using these minis in N3/4. I am a happy camper.

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Actually that's not true, if Code one is fun an allows two games on once pre month gaming evening rather than two, I shall probably partake.

**Red Harvest**

This is apparently a leak, rather than something official. Maybe the official stuff starts Wednesday?

Box art reminds me of the book covers rather than the battle boxes. It's adequate, but I like the battle box art. This box art looks like something whipped up in one of those packaging design programs, rather than something CB would do.

Battle box will like every other box, albeit with the newer terrain, and won't really include too much that is Code One specific, sort of like how Icestorm had no N3 specific stuff, just basic QSR stuff. We'll have to wait and see the Code One ruleset some other way.

Alpharius wrote:

Those PanO minis are going to have to really knock it out of the park, or all be for Svalarheima!

They sound like all Svalarheim to me, so start saving...

There is enough new stuff in this box to interest me, even though I have Pan-O dice, Yu Jing Dice, 4 fusiliers and 4 Zhanshi already.

**Vertrucio**

I'm not keen on CodeOne potentially splitting the base. I don't think CB has the bandwidth to keep it updated either.

But if it ends up being some other thing closer to say, Kill Team/Warcry, it's worth a shot.

**Alpharius**

Vertrucio wrote:
I'm not keen on CodeOne potentially splitting the base. I don't think CB has the bandwidth to keep it updated either.

That's a good point, of course!

I'm not so sure about CB being able to keep - is this four balls in the air now?

Vertrucio wrote:

But if it ends up being some other thing closer to say, Kill Team/Warcry, it's worth a shot.

That might be what this needs to/will become?

Code One, that is.

**.Mikes.**

I still don't really see the need for Code One. Infinty rules are dense, that's part of the game, but despite that's grown and grown.

I'm not complaining, though. The existance of C1 won't effect my enjoyment of the main game.

**ImAGeek**

Alpharius wrote:
I'd really only want the PanO part of the set - not interested in Yu Jing at all, and I already have the Red Veil stuff (for the Haqqislam parts!) and that ninja...

Those PanO minis are going to have to really knock it out of the park, or all be for Svalarheima!

They are all for Svalarheima.