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Battle of Moria box would be awesome, since that's two armies I'd like to play. Goblins also got a boost with the latest Legendary Legion, and I'll play dwarfs in any game.

New elves would be nice, especially since I scored a Cirdan model in one of GW's previous round of MTO minis, and I could replace the First Alliance box minis that are just way too old.

But my natural cynicism says it'll just be another book, or maybe a forgeworld mini or two.

Do we have any idea if the set of heroes from the Two Towers (with Eowyn, Theoden, etc) will be metal or resin?

As I understand it MTO stuff is cast in the material it was last available in, and I believe this hasn't been available for quite some time, so I am hopeful it might turn out to be metal.

Not "last available in", originally available in.

Heroes of Helm's Deep and the others should be metal.

I think Warriors of the Last Alliance is the oldest LotR plastic kit isn't it? Next to Moria Goblins anyway. Seeing the former updated as part of a new boxset would certainly hit the right notes.

soviet13 wrote:
Do we have any idea if the set of heroes from the Two Towers (with Eowyn, Theoden, etc) will be metal or resin?

As I understand it MTO stuff is cast in the material it was last available in, and I believe this hasn't been available for quite some time, so I am hopeful it might turn out to be metal.

It should be metal, but this isn't MTO like normal so who knows.

 infinite_array wrote:
Battle of Moria box would be awesome, since that's two armies I'd like to play. Goblins also got a boost with the latest Legendary Legion, and I'll play dwarfs in any game.

New elves would be nice, especially since I scored a Cirdan model in one of GW's previous round of MTO minis, and I could replace the First Alliance box minis that are just way too old.

But my natural cynicism says it'll just be another book, or maybe a forgeworld mini or two.

Let's split the difference and say "Fall of Gondolin".

 Arbitrator wrote:
I think Warriors of the Last Alliance is the oldest LotR plastic kit isn't it? Next to Moria Goblins anyway. Seeing the former updated as part of a new boxset would certainly hit the right notes.

Yup. High Elves/Numenorians and Goblins were the very first plastics.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
I wonder what he get Teased on Saturnday...

The team was talking about a Last Alliance supplement years ago already, and there was that teaser when they mentioned Anárion in a special rule in the book LotR-era profiles.

Because of that, Last Alliance has been my expectation with every upcoming release so far. Maybe it will finally be correct this time?

I didn't realize that it's been twenty years on for Fellowship the game & movie.

Now would be as good of a time as any for a Last Alliance set and I wonder if they've been planning for it?!

Who knows? I wouldn't get too high of expectations, however. Covid has still disrupted a lot of plans.

Kanluwen wrote:Not "last available in", originally available in.

Heroes of Helm's Deep and the others should be metal.

What exactly is your intended difference between "last" and "originally"?
Miniatures that were at first released in metal but then transitioned to Finecast have (almost always?) been released in MtO waves as Finecast.
Miniatures only ever produced in metal have been released in MtO waves as metal. So "last available in" appears the correct version.

In this case, I'm fairly confident all sets were only ever available in metal, so they should indeed be metal.
The only partial exception is the Heroes of Helm's Deep set, of which some figures (Théoden at least) were split into different packs (foot and mounted in this case) and did become Finecast, but since other figures in the set never were re-released in the resin, I expect the full set to be metal.

Kanluwen wrote:Now would be as good of a time as any for a Last Alliance set and I wonder if they've been planning for it?!

Jay (Middle-earth's rules writer) was speculating about a Last Alliance supplement more than 4 years ago, when they only just started the relaunch of the game via Forge World. It sounded as if they were planning to kick off the Middle-earth combined ruleset with either Pelennor Fields or Last Alliance, and the former presumably won out because they had limited opportunities for new plastics at the time, and knew the Last Alliance troops were due an overhaul. At the time (2016), new plastics of any type were not on the agenda (the Lake-town house an exception, since it already existed, but was just never released). Since then, we've seen several new plastic heroes released, and some Rohan scenery that appeared to have sold very well. I do feel that if any plastic troops are to be released for this game in the next 5 years, the classic High Elves and Númenóreans are at the top of the list. Their scale is off with later releases (and contemporary metals...), their combined existence in one set impractical, their poses limited, their wargear options incomplete and, not unimportantly, people have been clamouring for a new set for the last decade. So, who knows? Not sure if it's likely, but certainly not entirely implausible.

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Not "last available in", originally available in.

Heroes of Helm's Deep and the others should be metal.

What exactly is your intended difference between "last" and "originally"?
Miniatures that were at first released in metal but then transitioned to Finecast have (almost always?) been released in MtO waves as Finecast.
Miniatures only ever produced in metal have been released in MtO waves as metal. So "last available in" appears the correct version.

In this case, I'm fairly confident all sets were only ever available in metal, so they should indeed be metal.
The only partial exception is the Heroes of Helm's Deep set, of which some figures (Théoden at least) were split into different packs (foot and mounted in this case) and did become Finecast, but since other figures in the set never were re-released in the resin, I expect the full set to be metal.

Maybe it's different for AoS, because some of the items I know went into Finecast from the Wanderers range were metal during the Made to Order.

Kanluwen wrote:Now would be as good of a time as any for a Last Alliance set and I wonder if they've been planning for it?!

Jay (Middle-earth's rules writer) was speculating about a Last Alliance supplement more than 4 years ago, when they only just started the relaunch of the game via Forge World. It sounded as if they were planning to kick off the Middle-earth combined ruleset with either Pelennor Fields or Last Alliance, and the former presumably won out because they had limited opportunities for new plastics at the time, and knew the Last Alliance troops were due an overhaul. At the time (2016), new plastics of any type were not on the agenda (the Lake-town house an exception, since it already existed, but was just never released). Since then, we've seen several new plastic heroes released, and some Rohan scenery that appeared to have sold very well. I do feel that if any plastic troops are to be released for this game in the next 5 years, the classic High Elves and Númenóreans are at the top of the list. Their scale is off with later releases (and contemporary metals...), their combined existence in one set impractical, their poses limited, their wargear options incomplete and, not unimportantly, people have been clamouring for a new set for the last decade. So, who knows? Not sure if it's likely, but certainly not entirely implausible.

Look you, I'm being an optimist!

With the 20th anniversary of the Fellowship of the Ring film & game next year(which doesn't make me feel super-old at all, noooope), it feels like a good time for revisiting them...especially since the High Elf Warriors didn't get a revisit with The Hobbit despite those stunning Rivendell Knight models.

There's a lot of chit chat going around the facebook groups about Treebeard and the Ents. As Treebeard is going to sold out on the website in a few different countries. I wouldn't mind a new plastic version.

A Last Alliance Book with new Plastik Sets (and maybe a fitting Starter Set) would be very nice,

In Legions of Middle Earth (2006) there were some nice Unit options for Numenor & the Last Alliance Elves, which never got released...

It'd be so awesome to get a plastic version of Sauron in a Last Alliance starter.

I wonder if they'll announce the next supplement. Bilbos Journey or something similiar would be great, give them an excuse to release or re-release many rare Hobbit era minis.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
There's a lot of chit chat going around the facebook groups about Treebeard and the Ents. As Treebeard is going to sold out on the website in a few different countries. I wouldn't mind a new plastic version.

I would buy like 3 boxes if it was 2 ents, new plastic treebeard vs a isenguard force + some plastic isenguardy- terrain!!!

New Treebeard & Ents would be mega lame...

Last Alliance would be cool..

The Last Alliance is the safe bet for anyone wanting to know what the next major expansion/start/re-make will be. It is undeniably where they will head.

Between the Amazon series, the 20 year old models and the past knowledge we have about what the ME team were wanting to do, its clearly what they will do when they're able to. But who knows when that will be, as it will be a major expansion the likes of which ME hasn't seen in a good long time.

I wonder if they already have signed a deal with Amazon to support the upcoming series, unit designs included.

I really hope, we will see new Multi-Part Plastik Units, not Characters only...

almost certainly Treebeard resculpt along with Quickbeam and Beechbone.

I just really hope it's a plastic kit. The Forgeworld resin sculpts are incredible, but the prices are pretty steep for my tastes.

Plus if it were a multi-part plastic ent/Treebeard kit, that would be good sign for support for MESBG going forward.

Let's hope... the Plastic King of the Dead is one of the worst Designs...

RazorEdge wrote:
Let's hope... the Plastic King of the Dead is one of the worst Designs...

Are we talking the look of it? Or the way it's put together when assembling?

 Elevenses wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Let's hope... the Plastic King of the Dead is one of the worst Designs...

Are we talking the look of it? Or the way it's put together when assembling?

How it looks, can't say putting it together makes it even the worst.

RazorEdge wrote:

 Elevenses wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
Let's hope... the Plastic King of the Dead is one of the worst Designs...

Are we talking the look of it? Or the way it's put together when assembling?

How it looks, can't say putting it together makes it even the worst.

I though it looks so much more movie accurate than the metal one...

DId they returned some Models from Resin to Metal?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boromir-Captain-Of-The-White-Tower-2020?_requestid=5999746

Boromir, Captain of the White Tower was one of the first LotR Models they made and announced as Finecast. Now he is made from Metal again.

RazorEdge wrote:
DId they returned some Models from Resin to Metal?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boromir-Captain-Of-The-White-Tower-2020?_requestid=5999746

Boromir, Captain of the White Tower was one of the first LotR Models they made and announced as Finecast. Now he is made from Metal again.

The model with banner on foot never switched to Finecast I think (the resin pack had him with sword and shield on foot), so either they switched the other two included poses to metal now, or the product description is simply wrong.

RazorEdge wrote:
DId they returned some Models from Resin to Metal?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boromir-Captain-Of-The-White-Tower-2020?_requestid=5999746

Boromir, Captain of the White Tower was one of the first LotR Models they made and announced as Finecast. Now he is made from Metal again.

They've been doing that for a while. Boromir, Isengard commanders and several others have switched from resin back to metal.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
DId they returned some Models from Resin to Metal?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boromir-Captain-Of-The-White-Tower-2020?_requestid=5999746

Boromir, Captain of the White Tower was one of the first LotR Models they made and announced as Finecast. Now he is made from Metal again.

They've been doing that for a while. Boromir, Isengard commanders and several others have switched from resin back to metal.

Did they re-release the smaller Isengard commanders set (3 figures, without the drummer who was formerly part of the 4-model resin set) when they released the metal Scout commanders? Completely passed me by. When they re-released the Ringwraiths (foot/mounted) in the combined sets, they kept the resin ones and just mixed them with the metal figures of others. Changes only appear to be made when they repackage them in some way, but even that's not a guarantee apparently.

No, not specifically. I think they're just moving away from resin and back to metal. Probably just cheaper and because the molds were designed with metal originally in mind, probably an easy switch back.