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Personally I loathe the dead gals, I'm not fond of the pets and think that the archers look nice. All in all, I'll pass.

 Albertorius wrote:
Personally I loathe the dead gals, I'm not fond of the pets and think that the archers look nice. All in all, I'll pass.

Well, yeah, I agree. The Wyld Runners are nice, the Death-maidens need conversion (remove antlers, remove those claws....) and the Phelynx are outright ugly.

Baxx wrote:
The sentry rules are quite shoddy indeed. What are the new dice?

More Escher dice (already released in purple + yellow) and Goliath dice (already released in bronze + red, iirc)

I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world, but still kind of cynical how they release one colour scheme, retire it, then release another

That doesn't strike me as particularly cynical, and I hate GW's novelty faction dice (especially with multiple special symbols)

For people who like them, though, it seems nice to have another set to buy (in what's possibly a better color scheme).

I like dice, but Goliath and Escher already got dice. How many different dice are too much? There are 2 reasons IMO dice are desirable. Either because they have nice design with your faction symbol, or because these are special dice which have been hard to obtain and will be OOP in the future. Like the Blood Bowl block dice and Necromunda sustained fire dice (equivalent to rapid fire dice), as well as scatter dice and artillery dice (no longer used in Necromunda).

Since GW doesn't make the dice (I don't think anyway, the couple of sets I've still got the cases for say made in china) they might as well make different once when they do a new run

More choice for those that want something different, another chance to get 'special' dice for those that missed the last set

Wish they would move on to the more biologically normal Houses. I mean first we get the force grown Goliaths with 10 year lifespans, and now we have the Eschers who apparently reproduce through some form of artificial parthenogenesis. Both could arguably be viewed as mutant Houses.

Hmmm, not sure there are many of those,

I doubt anybody in Cawdor lives long enough (or in physically health enough) to have and raise children, i'd suspect they're almost entirely sustained by incoming adults from the general hive population

and with the hints that the Delauqe are not quit human who knows what's up there

Van Saar should be next though and they're pretty much normal (if mildy glow in the dark)
from their STC

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Hmmm, not sure there are many of those,

I doubt anybody in Cawdor lives long enough (or in physically health enough) to have and raise children, i'd suspect they're almost entirely sustained by incoming adults from the general hive population

and with the hints that the Delauqe are not quit human who knows what's up there

Van Saar should be next though and they're pretty much normal (if mildy glow in the dark)
from their STC

Orlocks are next, then Van Saar.

why do I always forget the Orlocks?

I just wish Necromunda got leaks like BB did so I can plan a gang

I just want more focus on more biologically normal Houses partly for more examination of what other hive worlds might be like, since Necromunda is often given as an example of an archetypal typical hive world. Sure there may be some minor mutation but not every House needs to be a freak show, especially given the Imperium's ideological stance on mutants and genetic purity. Mutant Houses IMO should be the exception not the norm.

 Crazyterran wrote:
I just wish Necromunda got leaks like BB did so I can plan a gang

Blood Bowl had a lot of extraneous moving parts, in terms of production.
Boxes, cards, books, models. Any one of those could be where the leak would have happened--in this case, it looks like it was the books.

Newcromunda? It's the boxes, maybe the books and cards that are done 'out of house'. I know one of the WarCry books was done in the UK at a small-ish printer so the new House of... books might be getting done that way too.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
why do I always forget the Orlocks?

Because they've always been Gangus Genericus Denimus?

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
why do I always forget the Orlocks?

Because they've always been Gangus Genericus Denimus?

Thats not unfair. (Which is why I avoided their original necromunda incarnation), but somehow in new Necromunda they've become the only normal humans. Just wish they looked slightly more 40k and slightly less 20th century biker gang (without bikes).

Orlocks make great Guard with head swaps.

Voss wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
why do I always forget the Orlocks?

Because they've always been Gangus Genericus Denimus?

Thats not unfair. (Which is why I avoided their original necromunda incarnation), but somehow in new Necromunda they've become the only normal humans. Just wish they looked slightly more 40k and slightly less 20th century biker gang (without bikes).

Now watch as Saturday's preview reveals badass biker babes and, of course, the prerequisite bike to complete the look.

I like Orlocks back in the day and I thought they worked fine when the other gangs weren't turned up to eleven and took on a more uniformed look. But I can certainly agree Orlocks lack that bit of 40k touch that would make them blend in. I think they could have gone a bit more in the direction of the Genestealer Cult miner suits.

But I'm overall of the opinion that while the new Necromunda gave us some nice models, they all suffer for being a factory equipped militia in uniform gang chic more than gangs of individuals that have the odd bit of gang specific equipment in common but are otherwise dressed and equipped with what they could lay their hands on.

Pshaw. This isn't a certain other game that keeps throwing bikes at factions.

Maybe they'll get some kind of tracked servitor with heavy weapons that could kinda/sorta be convoy related?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Pshaw. This isn't a certain other game that keeps throwing bikes at factions.

Maybe they'll get some kind of tracked servitor with heavy weapons that could kinda/sorta be convoy related?

That’ll be the Orlock Lugger

I like the Ogryn slaves/servitors. They look like they'll make great RPG characters (my primary interest nowadays).

 Geifer wrote:

Voss wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
why do I always forget the Orlocks?

Because they've always been Gangus Genericus Denimus?

Thats not unfair. (Which is why I avoided their original necromunda incarnation), but somehow in new Necromunda they've become the only normal humans. Just wish they looked slightly more 40k and slightly less 20th century biker gang (without bikes).

Now watch as Saturday's preview reveals badass biker babes and, of course, the prerequisite bike to complete the look.

I like Orlocks back in the day and I thought they worked fine when the other gangs weren't turned up to eleven and took on a more uniformed look. But I can certainly agree Orlocks lack that bit of 40k touch that would make them blend in. I think they could have gone a bit more in the direction of the Genestealer Cult miner suits.

But I'm overall of the opinion that while the new Necromunda gave us some nice models, they all suffer for being a factory equipped militia in uniform gang chic more than gangs of individuals that have the odd bit of gang specific equipment in common but are otherwise dressed and equipped with what they could lay their hands on.

I hope they don't ratchet the Orlocks up to be honest. Being fairly normal dudes is an incredible USP in a setting with gene bred hulking brutes, high tech fighters, and other wonderfully OTP stuff.

Normal human gangs do and should exist and at present the only thing repping them is the Orlocks. I love the idea of normal dudes struggling to keep pace in the 40k world! You need the straight man to play off!

For House of Iron I would love some kind of bike related stuff, but imagine we're going to get more mining stuff, like lasers, rock saw and cutters (which IMO is covered enough by GSC).

I'd lean towards stuff that puts them more in the vein of manufacturing and convoys than anything else.

I think Orlocks will really come into their own when they’re on some sort of ash waste adventure. The description of mad max style road convoys manned by Orlock gangers is quite the draw to me.

 zedmeister wrote:
I think Orlocks will really come into their own when they’re on some sort of ash waste adventure. The description of mad max style road convoys manned by Orlock gangers is quite the draw to me.

And we'll finally be able to use our Atalan Jackals models.

 zedmeister wrote:
I think Orlocks will really come into their own when they’re on some sort of ash waste adventure. The description of mad max style road convoys manned by Orlock gangers is quite the draw to me.

I'm ready

Cool vehicle and gunner. Those will fit in nicely with N22 edition!

Voss wrote:
That doesn't strike me as particularly cynical, and I hate GW's novelty faction dice (especially with multiple special symbols)

For people who like them, though, it seems nice to have another set to buy (in what's possibly a better color scheme).

Yeah, I think my issue is more with them taking dice out of production (and general FOMO-panic release strategies) than with them adding a new variety.

Baxx wrote:
I like dice, but Goliath and Escher already got dice. How many different dice are too much? There are 2 reasons IMO dice are desirable. Either because they have nice design with your faction symbol, or because these are special dice which have been hard to obtain and will be OOP in the future. Like the Blood Bowl block dice and Necromunda sustained fire dice (equivalent to rapid fire dice), as well as scatter dice and artillery dice (no longer used in Necromunda).

Two versions seems like the sweet spot to me, since you'll often want to roll combat with two weapons that need to be differentiated*. This lets you do that while being faction-loyal, if you care. Of course, it's no help for those who missed the first set of dice releases, and you also might not care (I colour-code my rolls and ignore the faction symbols completely... so those new Goliath dice look like good las weapon rollers for my purposes, to go with the grey Orlock dice I use for boltguns, and the purple Escher dice I use for Genestealer attacks, etc.)


*Customarily or casually. I believe that someone who wanted a perfect, sterile RAW experience would need to roll attacks one at a time.

Dice aren't produced by GW. They get an order done in advance of the release, when it sells through--it's done.

They need to make generic necro dice available like they do with blood bowl and keep them in stock. But that’s counter to their fomo marketing approach.

 privateer4hire wrote:
They need to make generic necro dice available like they do with blood bowl and keep them in stock. But that’s counter to their fomo marketing approach.

They did make those generic flaming orange ones, but those sold out many months ago. Not sure why they didn't keep those around.