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2020/02/22 00:15:21
Subject: Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Apprehensive Inquisitorial Apprentice
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Hello all,
I was wondering how the following interaction works.
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A Relic Leviathan Dreadnought is made a character via the 'March of the Ancients' stratagem.
When it dies I want to use the 'Only in death does duty end' stratagem.
Since I doubt this stratagem was written with degrading dreadnoughts in mind, I am unsure how this would work.
Safest route I reckon would be to use the profile with 1 wound remaining.
However I was wondering if this is the correct interpretation, or if the degradation is supposed to be ignored.
Or if there is something preventing the stratagem being used at all.
Cheers for any feedback.
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2020/02/22 07:17:40
Subject: Re:Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Unknown. The rules dont cover this situation. GW creates new rules without thinking about interaction with other rules.
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2020/02/22 10:13:40
Subject: Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Norn Queen
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Agreed. GW FAQed for Hive Tyrants to count as 1 wound but that only applies to Hive Tyrants.
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2020/02/22 14:50:48
Subject: Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Lieutenant General
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Also of note, the Forge World books are going to be replaced some time in the near future so any answer is likely to change.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2020/02/22 17:00:23
Subject: Re:Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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This isnt a FW issue. It's two GW stratagems interacting with each other.
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2020/02/22 18:25:37
Subject: Re:Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Lieutenant General
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 p5freak wrote:This isnt a FW issue. It's two GW stratagems interacting with each other.
Remember that there's a Relic Leviathan in the mix as well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/02/22 18:25:51
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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2020/02/22 21:53:28
Subject: Re:Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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 Ghaz wrote: p5freak wrote:This isnt a FW issue. It's two GW stratagems interacting with each other.
Remember that there's a Relic Leviathan in the mix as well.
And you'd have the exact same issue with a redemptor dreadnought.
I'd suggest to just take the Hive Tyrant ruling as an example and use the lowest tier in such cases.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/02/22 21:55:12
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2020/02/22 21:57:18
Subject: Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Use the lowest tier of the damage table. That’s the previous guidance we have for a similar situation.
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 Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
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2020/02/22 22:50:55
Subject: Re:Relic Leviathan + Only in death does duty end stratagem
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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The only possible answer is the highest tier, because SM 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/02/22 22:51:18
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