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given that all previous vehicles are hard plastic (not counting walkers or bikes as vehicles though) with some having PVC/Resin weapon upgrades and their current manufacturer is Archon there is a good chance that those are HIPS by Archon

New vehicles is interesting. But does it mean new vehicles, or replacing old PVC vehicle kits (like the tunnel runners in the photo) with polystyrene ones? Or even replacing older polystyrene kits with improved, more sophisticated polystyrene kits?

Going by earlier interviews with Ronnie. It’s new vehicles.
Though the pictured Hornet or whatever was the current vehicle with more guns I think right?

Three other factions basically share vehicles with GCPS so there may be kits with resin parts or optional plastics to cover a few.

Mantic already have some of the best model kits for vehicles based on ease of assembly and price point. I hate building more than I hate painting (which is a lot) but I have had zero problems with mantic current vehicles

 privateer4hire wrote:
Mantic already have some of the best model kits for vehicles based on ease of assembly and price point. I hate building more than I hate painting (which is a lot) but I have had zero problems with mantic current vehicles

Not only that, for the ones I've had, Mantic provide enough parts for complete weapon/turret swaps making them a breeze to magnetise.
That other brand has a habit of making a key part of a turret a single shared piece on the sprue so magnetising is sometimes a real pain.

I hope Mantic continue this gamer friendly practice for the new models.

Interesting!

Forgefathers vs. Veery-myn starter.

New plague/GCPS/Marauder/Mazon/Enforcer vehicle sounds a lot like it will be a cross-faction kit, possibly a hard plastic strider, maybe something else new as well.

Having a bunch of factions use the same vehicles makes it an easy release.

Could see Forgefathers and Asterians getting their mechs/walkers in hard plastic too.

Veer-myn vehicle could be anything, might be a dual release for KoW, redoing the death engine as hard plastic maybe?

If releases follow recent trends it'll be more of a case of getting the restic & resin out of the range and replaced with hard plastic.

I'm hoping for a Lancer tank, big omission from the current line-up and would work across multiple factions.

Looks like they are using the Archon Wolverine tank and Warlord Games Gates of Antares kits - makes sense as very little cost to Mantic and Archon ands Warlord sell more kits.

https://shop.archon-studio.com/rampart/272-wolverine-tank-5901414673444.html#lg=1&slide=0

https://store.warlordgames.com/products/c3m4-combat-drone

Preorders on Wednesday

makes sense to use the existing tanks instead of ordering new ones, specially with Archon being their manufacturer and having one on stock (so might be part of an agreement)

does anyone know if the Antares plastic was made by Archon as well?

although I don't think the Wolverine fits very well with GCPS and the original Lancer artwork was better
though it makes a nice Orc and Plague tank so not that big of a problem

Video also shows an assault upgrade for the Forgefahters APC and with the Halftrack in the same picture maybe we see a hardplastic one as well

All of Warlord's stuff is made by Renedra AFAIK

I'm pretty sure at least some of the Antares stuff wasn't from Archon from the feel/design of the sprues i've got

(but that wouldn't necessarily mean they aren't making them now as warlord could move the moulds)

This new starter set could be a much better introduction to this great game. Forge Fathers vs Veer Myn offers up some cool imagery for me and it feels very different for a scifi game.

I have the original starter set and while the Enforcers are mostly ehhhh... fine, I could not get a single person interested in Firefight because of the Marauders which are some of the worst minis I've ever had in my hands. Those models getting past QC is one thing, but to have them in the flagship product for a 'new' system is pretty mind boggling. I say this is a huge Mantic fan.

Soooo not new vehicles? Just rules for other comapnies' models?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Soooo not new vehicles? Just rules for other comapnies' models?

There are some new variants of the Mantic kits in those videos, e.g. the mortar mule.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Soooo not new vehicles? Just rules for other comapnies' models?

we don't know yet
Video shows upgrade/conversions for existing vehicles while Mantic is vague with answers but the hints are that the shown Warlord and Archon ones are new list entries and not replacements (so it is open if the Lancer will be there or not)

 Tabletop_Magpie wrote:
Those models getting past QC is one thing, but to have them in the flagship product for a 'new' system is pretty mind boggling. I say this is a huge Mantic fan.

guess this was the final reason to ditch Chinese manufacturer completely

 lord_blackfang wrote:
All of Warlord's stuff is made by Renedra AFAIK

negative. only a handful.

I'm hoping this means sponsons for the Wolverine will be more easily available - IIRC they were only offered in the initial kickstarter that funded the kit.

The wolverine is acceptable as old tech GCPS, perfect for plague, marauders or rebs. I'd leave off the stowage to get away from the 40k/WW2 styling though.

The Lancer hover tank could maybe be a more modern GCPS/Enforcer exclusive with the safeguard tech which enforcers use to prevent their stuff falling into enemy hands.

Whatever expands the range at this point is good, there are some definite gaps and lack of ground armour is a big one.

don't think with see sponsons for the Wolverine because those are not really needed for FF

 judgedoug wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
All of Warlord's stuff is made by Renedra AFAIK

negative. only a handful.

Who makes the rest?

Another Mule variant

another video

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
All of Warlord's stuff is made by Renedra AFAIK

negative. only a handful.

Who makes the rest?

I believe PSC under contract

Annihilation is an additional game mode for Firefight

New mission and changes to army organisation were mechanised units unlock not mechanised ones

tanks get more detailed rules (damaged engines or weapons) and facings (rear damage)

Preorders are up

https://www.manticgames.com/news/firefight-pre-orders-double-reward-points/

New starter box is good value, much better than the Marauder/Enforcer one - both in mini count, variety and with having a couple of large vehicles in there, doubling up on that box works out quite nicely.

The Antares combat drone looks good with the Enforcers, specifically the pathfinders who have had drone tech as an established part of their operations from the start.

The triple pack of wolverines is pretty great, gets them into the mass market at a lower price point, £25 each, £20 after typical online discounts is going to be quite useful as an option no matter what sci-fi game you're playing.

Overall, I'm fairly happy with it, hopefully there's some completely new releases for the game soon though. Rebs, Nameless, Sci-fi goblins etc. and of course, the long-awaited Lancer tank!

Triple Wolverine might be something I pick up for Horus Heresy militia eventually.

100% agreed with scarletsquig, the Exham starter set is immensely good value. Though there are 'just' 55 minis here compared to 71 in the OG set I think the trade off for 4 vehicles is well worth it.

I think the FF and VM are better models than the Enforcers and Marauders anyway, so definitely an improvement all around.

It is just possible that I can convince people to actually try this set...

Also, 27 D8 for £10! terrific value!

''The venerable Wolverine ... First introduced to frontline combat by the Jarek Corporation...'' - c'mon couldn't Archon came with the better name for it than their founder's first name? Even his last name would sound better = Ewertowski Corporation.

I'm loving those drones, might have to get some for my still halfpainted Enforcers.

M.

Have we seen the Wolverine before? Quite imoressed