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really depends of those are moveable or not
I guess the model is fixed as those are likely resin parts, but as other options from the tunneler can be moved closer or inside this might work

the other option is of course to cut the model and insert them, but than you won't really be able to swap options

Asterians

I really dig the Asterian vehicles, and am sorely tempted by the 'Oops! All Vehicles' game mode that's happening right now. I strongly doubt I'd ever get to play it, but FF is gaining some traction in the US, so it's a contender for a game I play at a con once a year

one thing other games have going for is a reason to collect models
for the very same reason Warlord Games added a tank mode to Bolt Action

having a game with only 1-2 tanks means people are just collecting that despite some people want to bu more they have no real reason because there is no possibility to play

now you can collect a tank company because there is a possibility to play it, which is important for some people

 kodos wrote:
one thing other games have going for is a reason to collect models
for the very same reason Warlord Games added a tank mode to Bolt Action

having a game with only 1-2 tanks means people are just collecting that despite some people want to bu more they have no real reason because there is no possibility to play

now you can collect a tank company because there is a possibility to play it, which is important for some people

Same reason why the armored company for 40k came about after apocalypse initially dropped.

Which, coincidentally, makes the wolverine 3 tank kit the easiest way to outfit your force with vehicles for other sci fi games.

 kodos wrote:

now you can collect a tank company because there is a possibility to play it, which is important for some people

TBH, most people wanting to collect that have already done it, they didn't wait for that possibility in game. Because the collection is their point, the game is just a bonus. And...it was already possible to play only tanks, just by ignoring official list building or tournament games, or simply using other game systems. It's not like Warpath is that popular enough for people to care to play strictly by the rules.

Just a note on the new wolverine battle group that it's on pre-order.

Scale images with a leman Russ from games workshop provided by one of my customers, Kelly Perkins , from his personal collection.

I don't think people realize how useful this three tank kit is. It comes with options for both full battle tanks and armored personnel carriers (APCs)
That means with one of these battle groups and one box of Wargames Atlantic cannon fodder you have three squads that each have a transport as well.
That's a solid start to an army or addition to one.

Then you've got the main battle tank turrets as an option for this vehicle so you could make a full armored company with only a few of the three packs. And that's going based off of industry leaders like Warhammer 40K or grim dark future from Onepagerule.

Add to the fact that this is hard plastic, and you have a package that is extremely attractive to people who convert models and kitbash different vehicle types. Ork players for 40k will have a field day converting these to battle wagons, for example.

They also look low tech enough to fit in with renegade forces like Mantic Games rebs or chaos cults for 40k. You could add some icons to them and pair them with the upcoming "the damned" from Wargames Atlantic and MiniWarGaming to give your damned forces some heavy armor.

In summary, there are plenty of uses for this three pack of tanks and it's an easy way to give some heavily armored punching power to your sci-fi forces for a relatively inexpensive price.

for the size it is somewhere between a Leman Russ and Rogal Dorn (similar length but more narrow)

I need to get one for sure, simply to check how easy it is to convert to make it look more modern.
from the pdf guide from Archon, the main problem could be the front wheel if it need to be cut down

McDougall Designs wrote:

 kodos wrote:
one thing other games have going for is a reason to collect models
for the very same reason Warlord Games added a tank mode to Bolt Action

having a game with only 1-2 tanks means people are just collecting that despite some people want to bu more they have no real reason because there is no possibility to play

now you can collect a tank company because there is a possibility to play it, which is important for some people

Same reason why the armored company for 40k came about after apocalypse initially dropped.

Which, coincidentally, makes the wolverine 3 tank kit the easiest way to outfit your force with vehicles for other sci fi games.

the rules for the armored company existed before apocalypse, as optional "chapter approved" rules. (apocalypse came out in 2007, the chapter approved armored company rules in 2004), but the apocalypse game mode certainly made owning an armored company much more attractive. that the 5th ed Imperial Guard Codex decided to put most of its vehicles into Squadrons so you could have more vehicle heavy armies without using the optional rules just made it even more common for guard players to run ridiculous numbers of Chimeras, russ's, and so on. (that said codex also added more vehicle options like the manticore and the hydra to the trifecta of the russ, chimera, and Basilisk even more so)

later 40K editions ramped up the vehicle counts for almost everybody.

I just saw (sorry if it has been discussed already in depth) an ebay auction for mantic enforcers that featured gates of antares aircraft. Has mantic bought some of the discontinued antares model lines for this?

yeah, they did https://www.manticgames.com/news/firefight-pre-orders-double-reward-points/

currently available as part of the Pathfinder Recon Force https://www.manticgames.com/firefight/enforcers/pathfinder-recon-force/

Super. Thank you for the link
It would be cool if antares stuff got ported over wholesale.
Different names would be fine of course but a whole other sector or whatever just joined the coprosperity whatsits

yes and no

I would like to see rules for the Antares factions (at least some of them) in FF as this would expand the universe not only by models but also for the background (Antares is just a single system and the universe would become a lot bigger with that)

the problem is that a lot of the GoA models are metal or resin/metal which is something Mantic wants to phase out

Good points. But the plastic ones would be great at least. And also hopefully cheaper than Warlord.

 McDougall Designs wrote:
Just a note on the new wolverine battle group that it's on pre-order.

Scale images with a leman Russ from games workshop provided by one of my customers, Kelly Perkins , from his personal collection.

I don't think people realize how useful this three tank kit is. It comes with options for both full battle tanks and armored personnel carriers (APCs)
That means with one of these battle groups and one box of Wargames Atlantic cannon fodder you have three squads that each have a transport as well.
That's a solid start to an army or addition to one.

Then you've got the main battle tank turrets as an option for this vehicle so you could make a full armored company with only a few of the three packs. And that's going based off of industry leaders like Warhammer 40K or grim dark future from Onepagerule.

Add to the fact that this is hard plastic, and you have a package that is extremely attractive to people who convert models and kitbash different vehicle types. Ork players for 40k will have a field day converting these to battle wagons, for example.

They also look low tech enough to fit in with renegade forces like Mantic Games rebs or chaos cults for 40k. You could add some icons to them and pair them with the upcoming "the damned" from Wargames Atlantic and MiniWarGaming to give your damned forces some heavy armor.

In summary, there are plenty of uses for this three pack of tanks and it's an easy way to give some heavily armored punching power to your sci-fi forces for a relatively inexpensive price.

Spoiler:

Are there sponsons available for the Wolverine? I am very tempted to get some for 30k...

privateer4hire wrote:Good points. But the plastic ones would be great at least. And also hopefully cheaper than Warlord.

by now the Pathfinder Box comes with the 2 Drones that are 35€ each by Warlord and 2 boxes Pathfinder that are 20€ for 90
similar for the Wolverine which is 35€, the box with 3 tanks is 90€ but also adds additional turrets

Gir Spirit Bane wrote:Are there sponsons available for the Wolverine? I am very tempted to get some for 30k...

not in the plastic kit, but should be possible to make 3d printed ones that fit as the side panel for the engine details can be removed to place sponsons there

 Gir Spirit Bane wrote:
Are there sponsons available for the Wolverine? I am very tempted to get some for 30k...

You're in luck, 30k Leman Russ can't have sponsons

I did hope for something new for the Forge Fathers.
They already had four options to build that tank kit into?
And it’s three more options now?

Great versatility, 7 things from one chassis.
But another vehicle like Hultrr, as most other factions are getting something, would be nice.

Maybe next years releases.

It’ll be interesting to see what the end of this years releases are for Enforcers, post all these vehicle waves.
That will be a bit of a pointer for what 2024’s faction releases could be perhaps..

This wave felt very "almost" to me

and August Vault coming with GCPS upgrades and Gun mounts for the Mule

 kodos wrote:

and August Vault coming with GCPS upgrades and Gun mounts for the Mule

As an independent retailer this seems daft.

Release a physical, cast version in box form, then immediately put the resin part up for 3D print access, this making that physical box relatively less worthwhile to invest in.

The Mule weapons are not available as cast version at all and the boxed version coms with different turrets

Having the upgrade part to print from the start is a good thing for all those that already have enough Mules

Might also be to get more retailers to go with a vendor license for the vault

So... um... I guess the human hive-conscious continues, as Mantic has apparently reimagined Warpath as an Epic scale game, accidentally, concurrently with GWs return to Epic.

They're asking for player feedback and have a rules draft available.

https://www.manticgames.com/news/warpath-needs-you/?fbclid=IwAR0SnQlrrCL7Ry0wo6qwrYHMzTFhc98O4RBY8Su-F4GEGiVDhpxAvLw23RM

And the video from the link posted above

Link to the Beta Rules: https://www.manticgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Warpath-rulebook-v0.3-for-demo.pdf

Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfvvgva8l6Yt6N6xz2-OYf1BOd06JDnENLvaPYPw9C82_KZYA/viewform

model previews/tests (from Ronnie):


PS:

So... um... I guess the human hive-conscious continues, as Mantic has apparently reimagined Warpath as an Epic scale game, accidentally, concurrently with GWs return to Epic.

well, small scale Warpath was around as an idea long before there were any rumours of Epic coming back, as the development what to do with the mass battle game started with the release of 2nd Edition Firefight and that those rules should be used with a smaller scale was around even before that

guess Mantic is just now late to the party, though it would not matter anyway even if they would have done it before epic was announced people would see it as a knock off

>though it would not matter anyway even if they would have done it before epic was announced people would see it as a knock off

Ding ding ding - we have a winner! Incredibly frustrating for Mantic this.

I would be tempted to support Warpath as a 3D print product so they can get it out ASAP and I recently found out my mate has a 3D printing business so that's useful.

In a similar circumstance, I believe WarCry being relased not too far behind Vanguard definitely harmed the latter. Plus in a rare change in circumstance, WarCry was far easier to play and was a full playable game for two players in a self contained box. Insane.

I know Mantic gets a lot of grief for their "we make that too*" releases, but I genuinely love so many of them. Dreadball was an absolutely wonderful cousin to Bloodbowl, with clear inspirations, but plenty of its own charm too.

If Mantic proceeds with Epic Warpath I just 100% know I would throw a ton of money at it. I'm eager to go read these preview rules.

from the options:
full game system with hardplastic models and terrain but Kickstarter
a release in Resin with a tighter range and
fully digital with STLs and digital rules only

I am not sure what is best, I personally would like to see a 15mm full plastic game with a starter box but this would take time to be released while having a fully digital game can be done soon but needs them to extend the printing service (knowing people to print is fine but having official shops for printing would really help a lot)