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I looked.
Very cool.
Recalled a book by Den Abnet about the Inquisitors.
Namely, the episode with the Planet of Demons, the Chariot of Doom or whatever it was called.
I will wait for the next series.
I wonder what kind of a golden man it is.
Is this round Enuntia connected with the ancients?
Very interesting.
A man knows how to intrigue.
This is not the end.
The series was very heavy.
Perhaps the continuation we will see in the next collection of cartoons from the GW.
Remember GW makes its own "Love, Death, Robots."
If he shoots (a GW anime), I am one hundred percent sure that next season we will see the continuation of the Astartes.
sorry for my french
P.S. By the way, I reviewed, in the end, a marin with a rhino-tank a from another order, not from Retributors. And there at the end of another 3 other orders flashed
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For the English native speakers here, what are the spheres talking about ? It's very difficult to get but someone in the comments wrote the full conversation.
And then the inquisitor, having heard everything, immediately gave the signal to the marines !
It was great !
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godardc wrote: For the English native speaker here, what are the sphere talking about ? It's very difficult to get but someone in the comments wrote the full conversation.
And then the inquisitor, having heard everything, immediately gave the signal to the marines !
It was great !
It's pretty hard to hear, but this is my understanding:
Spoiler:
++Who is here?++
I have failed, brother.
++We have all failed.++
++The Astartes deny our touch.++
++You must return.++
++Break your seal.++
We'll never survive.
++You must.++
++Take the (?a word that sounds like offer?).++
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The Polito form is dead, insect. Are you afraid? What is it you fear? The end of your trivial existence?
When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence.
Excellent just like the previous episodes! That's better than anything I've seen from supposedly mainstream and fully professionally funded IPs like Star Trek and Star Wars in the same time frame.
I think I've finally hit on my reason and feeling for why I prefer Astartes over Death of Hope, amongst many things:
Death of Hope, in many places, relies very strongly on body horror and almost just grimdarkness for the sake of it. The squad of Marines being sucked into the orb with no warning, no hesitation, but the sheer wrongness of it and terror it evoked (for me, at least) represented something far more effective that transcended beyond just 40k.
DoH is an excellent 30k/40k story, but relies on someone to be invested in the setting first. Astartes doesn't need that. You can watch Astartes with very little understanding of the setting, and still be just as clued in to what is happening as a seasoned veteran. I think a great deal of that is down to the creative decision by Astartes' creator to pick on things that are completely unique, or at the very least, not obviously explained in 40k canon. Despite being something that non-fans can enjoy, it's also just incredibly well made and appeals to the hardcore 40k audience by keeping that stoicism, the no-nonsense of the Astartes (love that execution of the fallen Inquisitor/Acolyte).
If GW is to make any media, I'd prefer it be closer to Astartes, which appeals to many more people while keeping that 40k edge, and less like DoH.
godardc wrote: For the English native speaker here, what are the sphere talking about ? It's very difficult to get but someone in the comments wrote the full conversation.
And then the inquisitor, having heard everything, immediately gave the signal to the marines !
It was great !
It's pretty hard to hear, but this is my understanding:
Spoiler:
++Who is here?++
I have failed, brother.
++We have all failed.++
++The Astartes deny our touch.++
++You must return.++
++Break your seal.++
We'll never survive.
++You must.++
++Take the (?a word that sounds like offer?).++
think I've finally hit on my reason and feeling for why I prefer Astartes over Death of Hope, amongst many things:
Death of Hope, in many places, relies very strongly on body horror and almost just grimdarkness for the sake of it. The squad of Marines being sucked into the orb with no warning, no hesitation, but the sheer wrongness of it and terror it evoked (for me, at least) represented something far more effective that transcended beyond just 40k.
DoH is an excellent 30k/40k story, but relies on someone to be invested in the setting first. Astartes doesn't need that. You can watch Astartes with very little understanding of the setting, and still be just as clued in to what is happening as a seasoned veteran. I think a great deal of that is down to the creative decision by Astartes' creator to pick on things that are completely unique, or at the very least, not obviously explained in 40k canon. Despite being something that non-fans can enjoy, it's also just incredibly well made and appeals to the hardcore 40k audience by keeping that stoicism, the no-nonsense of the Astartes (love that execution of the fallen Inquisitor/Acolyte).
If GW is to make any media, I'd prefer it be closer to Astartes, which appeals to many more people while keeping that 40k edge, and less like DoH.
I agree wholeheartedly about DOH needing some pre-existing knowledge of the 30/40k universe, but body horror is integral to the setting going all the way back to RT.
Astartes is an excellent introduction to the concept of Marines and how they "work".
I wouldnt say either one is better than the other but both present qualities unique to 40k.
This just goes to show how wide and varied the setting is.
I just hope that what the studio puts out has elements of both.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I still don't get what happened...
I dont think you're supposed to know...yet!
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Inquisitor radical, somewhere he found an artifact of xenos or an artifact of ancient demons (hi Abnett).
Since he is a powerful psyker, he was able to subjugate him to himself and began to study him.
Then he found out that a similar artifact had appeared on one planet.
He enlisted the support of the Distributors and arrived on the planet for an artifact.
He forced her into order, but the rebels seized the artifact and fled from the doomed planet.
But the distributors overtook the ship and boarded it.
They killed the renegade and twin psykers who drew strength from the artifact.
They went inside the storage sphere of the artifact, passed by its unfinished golden body, and the sphere tried to subdue the astartes, but they did not obey and drove auspex communicators into it, connecting it to the inquisitor’s bundle with the enclosed sphere.
After connecting, the spheres began to communicate with each other. The Inquisitor witnessed their conversation in their room.
After a brief meeting, they decided to hide,
The Inquisitor, realizing this, gave a sign to recall the detachment of marines.
But the Spheres joined forces and broke the inquisitor's block with a powerful impulse and began preparations for leaving.
the sergeant of the marines, having received a signal, could not give the order to leave because the departing sphere captured him with the squad.
Another sphere has taken over the inquisitor, showing the past and future. The captain with the lieutenant of the retributors, having seen the inquisitor’s corapt, immediately killed him.
The spheres are gone, perhaps to their home with the squad.
The sergeant found himself on their planet
the end
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Ok so I'll give my 2 cents on what happened in what is (in my opinion) by far the best installment of this series:
So it opens with the Retributors captain and sergeant on board the chapter battlebarge overseeing the boarding action by the Impulsors (the designation of this particular marine squad) led by sergeant Kohren. The astartes (possibly acting under the mandate of the Inquisition of visa-versa) have already gained possession of one sphere, we'll call this "Sphere 1".
Sphere one is held by psychic dampeners/some form of containment mechanism to be studied by the Inquisition.
On the enemy ship the impulsor squad moves into the chamber and trips some sort of alarm system. As they walk in further they see a half-constructed talos golem - presumably some sort of mechanized body intended to house the entity within "Sphere 2" (possibly their overall mission, to gain physical form). Surrounding this construct are many psychic amplification devices (spine and mask) which we saw the psykers using previously. This indicates either that they were being used to empower the golem which was requiring a lot of energy to create or that they were planning on possibly "upgrading" other suitable members of their rebellion to the status of psykers.
As the Astartes come face to face with Sphere 2 it attempts to ward them away or dominate their minds with wave after wave of psychic attacks which the marines shrug off. Sphere 2 then shows that it knows the marines by naming them "astartes" as though cursing. This suggests that the two factions have prior history with one another. Sphere 2 feigns weakness as the astartes begin installing what appears to be handheld psychic dampeners of containment devices.
As it cuts back to the battlebarge we see the Inquisitor dive into the warp and witness a communication between Sphere 1 and Sphere 2 which to my understanding goes as follows:
Sphere 2: Who's there?
Sphere 1: We have failed, the Astartes defy our touch. We must return, break your seal!
Sphere 2: We will never survive
Sphere 1: YOU MUST! (Survive/Break seal) take them with you ...
At this point the Inquisitor makes a mistake, he ejects himself from the conversation and lets down his guard to warn the captain saying "The astartes are in danger!". The captain conveys this to the tactical marine in the room who rushes to warn the squad.
This alerts the sphere in the room (Sphere 1) to his presence and attacks. We here him whisper "He knows" and the Inquisitor is forcibly jerked back into a trance-like state. This is followed an energy discharge that we see directly hit the inquisitor. At this point the psyker attempts to fight back by plunging once again into the warp
We are shown (what I believe) is a vision of the future, of what will come to pass. The psyker is overwhelmed by the sphere and is taken over completely at which point the marines put him down with prejudice (I especially like the little detail of the sergeants bolter detonations blowing back the captains cloak showing the sheer force of bolt rounds)
Back on the heretics ship we see sergeant Kohren receive the warning transmission. Unfortunately it is too late and the entity within Sphere 2 withdraws, drawing the astartes in in its wake. Here we see what i believe to be the creatures true form, a tentacled, gargoyle-like beast. It breaks down the seal (sphere) as part of its escape. The Astartes are sucked into the sphere alongside it, possibly as a side effect of the seal being broken, possibly by the creature itself's power, either way the result is the same.
We then see the creature in its true warp form, presumably translating through the warp and taking the astartes with it. In the warp-like nebulae we see clouds of black, these could translate to worlds, landmasses, daemonworlds, warp storms etc but a single black cloud rushes up to meet them consuming the creature. I interpret this as the creature selecting its homeworld and descending upon it with the result looking like it is coming up to meet them. However it could represent a pulse of energy from a 3rd party, maybe the final desperate last act of the Inquisitor?
Either way, sergeant Kohren is deposited in a strange land, a valley surrounded by what looks like the statues or mummified remains of ancient kings/xenos/daemons. We can't tell whether its a real planet, a daemon world or even real at all. Khoren vomits and the blood immediately coagulates (and we get a great face reveal). The video ends with the valley being put into perspective as the rest of Kohren's impulsor squad materialize on the surrounding pillars. It is revealed that Khoren himself is standing on a pillar himself which puts into perspective the enormous size of the surrounding objects
What i love especially about this series and why I love this part the most is its ramping feel. The process begins with the calm, silent, almost serene boarding action as the assault craft drifts through space towards the heretics ship. The tension builds as the marines fight their way through hordes of well prepared guardsman. You get a false crescendo as they fight for their lives against the powerful psykers and an apparent release of tension upon their victory. This process starts again with the calm entrance to the inner vault, the meditating inquisitor, it ramps up again over the course of the interaction between the spheres/the molestation of the astartes and then the true crescendo transcends into full blown cosmic horror with the reveal of the entity within.
The whole series ends the rest of the marines squad materializing in the valley by putting sergeant Kohren into visual perspective. This unstoppable astartes is rendered a tiny spec in a vast, incomprehensible alien landscape . its just brilliantly done. In my mind this series is over, there is no need for any more exposition. The ending is left deliberately ambiguous as it leaves the audience in the same state as the space marines - utterly confused and shell shocked. We, like the characters have no understanding of what or where this place is or what brought us here. What are these creatures? Are the marines still alive? Does this place really exist? It captures the nature of cosmic horror so completely and so masterfully. In my mind the visions the Inquisitor was shown are a window into the future, the Astartes die on this "world"
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Yazima wrote: The video ends with the valley being put into perspective as the rest of Kohren's impulsor squad materialize on the surrounding pillars. It is revealed that Khoren himself is standing on a pillar himself which puts into perspective the enormous size of the surrounding objects
No worries. As for the entities within the seals, they look very reminiscent of the Yu'Vath hive mind crystals that hail from near the Calixis Sector. An ancient empire of Chaos-influenced xenos. I must say, when I first saw the interaction between spheres my mind immediately jumped to the "Tyrant Star" phenomenon from the Calixis Sector. It is also characteristic of the Astartes creator to include lesser known, less distinctive aspects of the setting in his videos. However, I can't help but think it is intended to be an entirely new, unknown entity. He certainly seems to be aiming for the lovecraftian cosmic horror theme which i think is much better suited to a completely unknown, incomprehensible creature
the sphere reminds me of Tuchulcha from the dark angels books in horus heresy and also the gav thorpe books
there is only one sphere in this video. it keeps cutting back and forth between the present and flashback. the inquisitor is searching for the missing squad, by hacking it with his mind, before being possessed and executed. the inquisitor sees quick cuts of what happened to the squad. 4:53 and 4:54
if the sphere is an Abominable Intelligence, as i suspect, the squad is inserting corrupt data discs to destroy it, which failed
at 4:51 i suspect i see necrons
the golden man is just junk in the enemy vaults that they feel has value, clearly the space marine do not
is it already known that this chapter is a successor chapter of the imperial fists?
the corpses on the thrones clearly represent us when we run out of toilet paper
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there is only one sphere in this video. it keeps cutting back and forth between the present and flashback. the inquisitor is searching for the missing squad, by hacking it with his mind, before being possessed and executed. the inquisitor sees quick cuts of what happened to the squad. 4:53 and 4:54
Rebel Orb: "Who is here?"
Inquisition Orb: "I have failed."
Rebel Orb: "Brother, we have all failed."
Inquisition Orb: "The Astartes deny our touch. You must return. Break your seal."
Rebel Orb: "Impossible, we'll never survive."
Inquisition Orb: "You must. Take them... (indistinct)"
Inquisitor: "Recall them immediately!"
I base which orb is speaking on which image is shown.
I think the Inquisitor said "The party's in danger!" or "Astartes in danger."
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Amazing stuff, I spent all evening re-watching it and diving back into 40K lore for the first time in a long while. I saw a lot of what looked to me like Necron living metal, but I'm completely open to the idea that it was Enslavers or Yu'Vath or Tzeench. Not sure if the plinth the orb is hovering over is supposed to be Blackstone or just black marble, I find the former would be pretty interesting. I keep pausing it right before the marines get suckud against the orb, I don't see anybody talking about this shot but you get a full view of the entity's upper torso for just a moment before it retreats away into darkness. I don't recognize it, material looks like ancient bronze painted black but heavily worn. Looks a lot like a Mogu from Warcraft, honestly.
Zed wrote: *All statements reflect my opinion at this moment. if some sort of pretty new model gets released (or if I change my mind at random) I reserve the right to jump on any bandwagon at will.