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 Vermis wrote:
"Big GW preview! In two days."

Are they taking the wee-wee?

No seriously, its going to be big. Look, you can't get any bigger than fluffy dice to hang in your car.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
"Big GW preview! In two days."

Are they taking the wee-wee?

No seriously, its going to be big. Look, you can't get any bigger than fluffy dice to hang in your car.

With the Primaris Lieutenant symbol on the 1’s.

Well done, you've just snapped the dice!

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
"Big GW preview! In two days."

Are they taking the wee-wee?

Maybee they saved the Stuff from the last two for this one to Make one actually big...


Probably just corporate talk though.

You ever been in one of these seminars? I have, at Games Day Baltimore waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when the Eye of Terror book had just dropped.

Back then, even a quarter of this stuff would have been Big News. Understand that this has been one preview broken up into 4 parts from what GW said.

Sure would be nice to get some news on that Blood Bowl 3 video game that was supposedly due out this year.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.

I would. Killteam is the "zero investment" game from GW, where they make rules and almost nothing else. All the minis already exist, so the outlay for additional products is very small. The only exception to this seems to have bee Rogue Trader.

So no Aeronautica at this preview still?

I'm now actually starting to believe what a GW friend told me, they would not preview any more Aeronautica Tau until later on, until just before the shops re-open. Skies of Fire and associated kits, dice etc are all ready made, ready waiting for release. It may not just be a matter of stores re-opening though as the distribution may be delayed too.

Was hoping for some Titanicus or Aeronautica, but on the other hand, we know where those are headed in the near term already.

Still, ought to be fun.

 Apple Peel wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.

Why would I want that when I could make My Guys? They already kind of did that with the Starstriders and Gellerpox, too.

Kill Team is dead. I’m pretty sure we will be getting roughly 6 WD articles a year and an annual and that’s it for support. Planning on selling my stuff off after Covid mellows out of no second edition or major change is announced , I’m all for continuing on with dead games (Mordheim), but KT isn’t even that fun. GW really missed a huge opportunity with it.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
"Big GW preview! In two days."

Are they taking the wee-wee?

Maybee they saved the Stuff from the last two for this one to Make one actually big...


Probably just corporate talk though.

Oi every preview doesnjt have to have multiple new editions and hundred(s) new models to be big unlike for some people in dakkadakka

Killteam isn't a game its an introduction mode that has been in the core rules for decades, but which now has its own product placements. The key is that its designed to lead you into 40K or provide a side game to it. GW doesn't seem keen to create it into its own game on its own. Even Warcry has limits - almost all the unique models for it belong to one single faction in AoS (slaves to darkness); whilst its terrain packs are just regular AoS terrain with the deployment cards.

Again its a very low investment game; the only twist is that the chaos warbands all fit into one army; meanwhile all the other races in the game have to buy generic regular infantry boxes to get involved- although GW has slowly started releasing some Warcry specific boxes with varied sculpts for some armies (potentially they might expand on this, though it would require new castings since warbands from other races use models from multiple infantry sets).




As for previews GW is in a tricky spot. On the one hand they want our attention to market and preview stuff; on the other their release schedual is shot to bits and they've NO fixed re-activation date; with the best current estimations being perhaps 3weeks (at best) to months to even a year floating around as the reactivation date. Ergo they've no idea when they are going to be able to even produce current stock let alone start bulking up for releases. And that's before we touch on international trade which is also, shot to bits. Both at the global distribution level and at the internal level within countries. Mail services are overloaded even if they are still working and reactivation won't mean that mail services will resume to full original capacity overnight.


GW also doesn't want to promise so much that they overpromise with things that might take too long to bring to market.

Getting more Blood Bowl than just the tree is a winner though.

Hoping for a full team, perhaps Vampires or so

tneva82 wrote:
Oi every preview doesnjt have to have multiple new editions and hundred(s) new models to be big unlike for some people in dakkadakka

This kind of no-content hit-post might make more sense if we didn't now know that the "massive biggest ever" previews are actually a single preview split into 4.

Now we do, so it makes no sense to complain about the small scale of these previews, and even less sense to attack those who complained before that was known.

T was a joke...

jesus.

I pretty exited to see some actual sons of behemat. The art they teased with has a gargant as large as a warlord titan, surely, it wont come to that, right?

Would be cool to get a big piece of scenery representing the "fallen giant template" from back in the day.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Vermis wrote:
"Big GW preview! In two days."

Are they taking the wee-wee?

Maybee they saved the Stuff from the last two for this one to Make one actually big...


Probably just corporate talk though.

You ever been in one of these seminars? I have, at Games Day Baltimore waaaaaaaaaaaaay back when the Eye of Terror book had just dropped.

Back then, even a quarter of this stuff would have been Big News. Understand that this has been one preview broken up into 4 parts from what GW said.

Is it confirmed that it will be a part 4?

I think the really big Giant will just be the legs and feet

 Thargrim wrote:
Sure would be nice to get some news on that Blood Bowl 3 video game that was supposedly due out this year.

Eh, with those kinds of games I'm never interested because it's basically just a graphical overhaul that inevitably comes with fewer teams than the original+expansion packs.

I looked at BB2 and was like...well with BB2 I get 6 teams, and with Chaos Edition original BB I have like 15...

 Overread wrote:
Killteam isn't a game its an introduction mode that has been in the core rules for decades, but which now has its own product placements. The key is that its designed to lead you into 40K or provide a side game to it. GW doesn't seem keen to create it into its own game on its own. Even Warcry has limits - almost all the unique models for it belong to one single faction in AoS (slaves to darkness); whilst its terrain packs are just regular AoS terrain with the deployment cards.

Again its a very low investment game; the only twist is that the chaos warbands all fit into one army; meanwhile all the other races in the game have to buy generic regular infantry boxes to get involved- although GW has slowly started releasing some Warcry specific boxes with varied sculpts for some armies (potentially they might expand on this, though it would require new castings since warbands from other races use models from multiple infantry sets).

I agree that their intention was primarily to great a "low barrier" system to nudge people into 40K rather than a system in its own right, but I think they went about that poorly, because KT certainly gives the impression of a system that should be considered in its own right given all the extra mechanics and doodads.

Honestly I just don't understand why GW won't simply adopt something along the lines of the Strike Force rules from the Heresy, which are essentially just new rules for army selection, half a page of extra rules about models acting individually and forming ad-hoc squads, and a loose campaign system with a few scenarios, otherwise using the base rules of the game. Maybe they think 8th is simply too "killy" to go down to such small game sizes without a ton of extra stuff and rebalancing(it's arguably true, afterall)? Maybe it's just Studio ego? Who knows, but regardless they need to "pick a lane"; if they produce a system that has loads of unique mechanics and addons and card packs and all that guff, people expect it to be a properly supported system in its own right because it requires them to invest time & money, and if they want something that's only intended to give people something to do with their first purchases while the 40K army GW actually wants them to buy gets built, it needs to be something simple and low-investment. The problem with KT is they tried to double-dip.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I think the really big Giant will just be the legs and feet

I'd buy one!

 godswildcard wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I think the really big Giant will just be the legs and feet

I'd buy one!

That's rather unfair making your giant hop around all the time.

 Overread wrote:

 godswildcard wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I think the really big Giant will just be the legs and feet

I'd buy one!

That's rather unfair making your giant hop around all the time.

Maybe, but just think of the narrative forging I'd be doing!

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Warcry will be interesting- I wasnt expecting any news until after the scions of the flame get released. I wonder if they will be pushed out not long after covid19 finally peters out

I call it now:

A bunch of guys with no shoes.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.

I would. Killteam is the "zero investment" game from GW, where they make rules and almost nothing else. All the minis already exist, so the outlay for additional products is very small. The only exception to this seems to have bee Rogue Trader.

I have been saying this from the very beginning:

No dedicated models for Kill Team, no business from me. They would also need to bring the rules at least to the level of Necromunda.

Strg Alt wrote:
I have been saying this from the very beginning:

No dedicated models for Kill Team, no business from me. They would also need to bring the rules at least to the level of Necromunda.

I have been saying this from the very beginning:

No 40k rules for Kill Team models, no business from me.

There now we cancel each other out.

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:

Strg Alt wrote:
I have been saying this from the very beginning:

No dedicated models for Kill Team, no business from me. They would also need to bring the rules at least to the level of Necromunda.

I have been saying this from the very beginning:

No 40k rules for Kill Team models, no business from me.

That's a weird thing to have, because the Kill Team models have had 40k rules.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I think the really big Giant will just be the legs and feet

You heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen - giant Giants with plasma weapons (who rolled a 1...)!

Strg Alt wrote:

I call it now:

A bunch of guys with no shoes.

Part of me feel like so many models have no shoes because they were giddy how well they render feet now.

The first online preview was rather lame because all the new models were leaked in advance. Second one was much more enjoyable because I avoided Dakka for 48 hours before the event. See you tomorrow after the show!

Carlovonsexron wrote:

Strg Alt wrote:

I call it now:

A bunch of guys with no shoes.

Part of me feel like so many models have no shoes because they were giddy how well they render feet now.

If only they'd been giddy about Repentia.

Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?