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I was thinking that it would be really cool to have an animated TV show based on the Horus Heresy Novels, like animated in the sense of Astartes or The Lord Inquisitor if you've followed those, not like Star wars the Clone Wars or Rebels. I also think Henry Cavill could play Horus Lupercal, with like a mocap of his face. Opinions?

If the Storyforge stuff does well I have no doubt they'll do 30k.

It will depend on how the already planned TV show does, honestly.

No. No. No. No. I selfishly want MY mental images in my head, thanks.

stroller wrote:
No. No. No. No. I selfishly want MY mental images in my head, thanks.

That's the risk with any 'expansion' of the fluff. The Iron Hands I started collecting years ago aren't quite the same as they are now...

It's bad enough the Horus Heresy novels exist at all.

No, because it won't have the levels of grimdarkness and absurdity that make 40k a mockery of rather than endorsement for authoritarianism.

Now maybe an AOS show, in the style of 80s/90s kids cartoons? I'm thinking something like the animated Conan where it's got a serious tone and stakes.

 ScarletRose wrote:
Now maybe an AOS show, in the style of 80s/90s kids cartoons? I'm thinking something like the animated Conan where it's got a serious tone and stakes.

Warhammer Adventures

I’d be ok with various different versions of the 40k universe on tv.

A kids friendly adventure cartoon series in the style of the 90s X-men cartoon would be cool

An adult cartoon like bojack horseman, archer or metalocalypse would all be a great fit I think ( I don’t mean those three all at once)

A live action adventure series based on the Eisenhorn with the budget of the Witcher could be cool.

I’ve never been particularly keen on any of the fan-made stuff I’ve seen.

IacobusIgnavus wrote:
I was thinking that it would be really cool to have an animated TV show based on the Horus Heresy Novels, like animated in the sense of Astartes or The Lord Inquisitor if you've followed those, not like Star wars the Clone Wars or Rebels. I also think Henry Cavill could play Horus Lupercal, with like a mocap of his face. Opinions?

I think it would pretty cool to have an 40k tv short series, animated or live action... but not 30k.

I definitely think following a modern Inquisitor or Rogue Trader or other such independent and diversely skilled operative party would make a better TV program, since there's a lot more diverse material to work with to keep making shorter contained stories about, and you could visit and showcase most of the 40k universe.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

IacobusIgnavus wrote:
I was thinking that it would be really cool to have an animated TV show based on the Horus Heresy Novels, like animated in the sense of Astartes or The Lord Inquisitor if you've followed those, not like Star wars the Clone Wars or Rebels. I also think Henry Cavill could play Horus Lupercal, with like a mocap of his face. Opinions?

I think it would pretty cool to have an 40k tv short series, animated or live action... but not 30k.

I definitely think following a modern Inquisitor or Rogue Trader or other such independent and diversely skilled operative party would make a better TV program, since there's a lot more diverse material to work with to keep making shorter contained stories about, and you could visit and showcase most of the 40k universe.

Having read your post about a rogue trader made me think a 40k version of Firefly following a rogue trader and their ragtag crew could be really cool.

I want it to be 40K. Not the Heresy, not the War with the Men of Iron...I want the 41st millennium. It is the real setting, and only through massive exposure of the 41st does the 31st make any sense or have any depth.

Is no one aware that Eisenhorn is currently being developed by the people that did the Man in the High castle as a live action show?

Hellebore wrote:
Is no one aware that Eisenhorn is currently being developed by the people that did the Man in the High castle as a live action show?

Honestly I was not. Secondly this is what I'd want to see, inquisition rounding up heretics and seeing the inner workings of the Imperium

 fraser1191 wrote:

Hellebore wrote:
Is no one aware that Eisenhorn is currently being developed by the people that did the Man in the High castle as a live action show?

Honestly I was not. Secondly this is what I'd want to see, inquisition rounding up heretics and seeing the inner workings of the Imperium

https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/warhammer-40000-series-eisenhorn-in-the-works-the-x-files-frank-spotnitz-1203270041/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10656018/


Although annoyingly, everywhere it's been discussed it's written like Dan Abnett invented Eisenhorn, when he was actually created for the 54mm Inquisitor skirmish game, which served as the basis for the trilogy.

I think Warhammer could make for great TV. It's got all the stuff it needs. What I would worry about, is the show hitting all the wrong notes.

It would need to be on a channel with no censorship. I don't want to see pg13 40k.

I trust almost no one in the industry being able to pull off a live action warhammer show. It would take someone particularly skilled to make one that isn't pure cringe. And nothing would be worse than a PC warhammer show.

If there is enough people watching, for the adds revenue to bring in the money for who ever makes it then why not.

The only question is are there enough people that would want to watch it, and if the script is going to be good. A bad script can kill any frenchise ,

 Thargrim wrote:
I trust almost no one in the industry being able to pull off a live action warhammer show. It would take someone particularly skilled to make one that isn't pure cringe. And nothing would be worse than a PC warhammer show.

Did you see The Man In The High Castle? I think Frank Spotnitz will do Eisenhorn justice.

Crispy78 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
I trust almost no one in the industry being able to pull off a live action warhammer show. It would take someone particularly skilled to make one that isn't pure cringe. And nothing would be worse than a PC warhammer show.

Did you see The Man In The High Castle? I think Frank Spotnitz will do Eisenhorn justice.

Agree, that was pretty good.

What'll make or break a 40k show though will be the effects. Not tooo difficult to do Nazis & some explosions. 40k stuff? We'll see.

Crispy78 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
I trust almost no one in the industry being able to pull off a live action warhammer show. It would take someone particularly skilled to make one that isn't pure cringe. And nothing would be worse than a PC warhammer show.

Did you see The Man In The High Castle? I think Frank Spotnitz will do Eisenhorn justice.

I found/am finding Man In The High Castle REALLY fething boring. My wife likes it but I've been struggling to care about anyone or anything going on in it.

 Sim-Life wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
I trust almost no one in the industry being able to pull off a live action warhammer show. It would take someone particularly skilled to make one that isn't pure cringe. And nothing would be worse than a PC warhammer show.

Did you see The Man In The High Castle? I think Frank Spotnitz will do Eisenhorn justice.

I found/am finding Man In The High Castle REALLY fething boring. My wife likes it but I've been struggling to care about anyone or anything going on in it.

Sounds like your watching season 1.

In short, no, because they would cockerel it up. Magnus would be gingercided, Malcador would be gender swapped, everything would be sanitised and dumbed down for the masses, they'd probably pronounce Russ as Roose and Angron and Ahhhngrun.

Stick with passion projects like Astartes and Death of Hope. If GW instead just threw money at those guys, that would be ok.

To be honest I don’t mind if they make a bit of a mess of it, depending on how badly they mess it up!!

A mainstream release of a 40k tv show would be great for the hobby in general I think and put 40k into the consciousness of the general public to a greater extent. I don’t expect the first try or even the first few tries to be breakout hits, but might be the first step in getting some truly great adaptations down the line.

How many fantasy stories were adapted in too movies and tv shows badly before something great came along like Peter Jackson’s LOTR, or GoT ( it started well even if the ending wasn’t so well received). Video game adaptations are similar, so many weak attempts, but one or two that are pretty great. And comic book adaptations also started out poorly in general too but are now made to a much higher standard generally.

I think we have to expect some failures on the road to success.

I would really enjoy them expanding the universe with more stories. Honestly the only reason I buy codicies is to get the short stories and other fluff.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
It would need to be on a channel with no censorship. I don't want to see pg13 40k.

Yes, but it has to be bloody/gory/violent for the sake of the story, not for the sake of pure grimdark. The first Death of Hope episode made the latter mistake, and in my opinion it's pretty bad. It could have been good if he'd given us something to hold onto during all of it, but just seeing pain, death, and suffering for the sake of grimdark isn't great for entertainment. It's like comparing Saving Private Ryan to something like Saw.

That said, there's a lot of great 40k stuff coming out now or soon. We've got Astartes, Death of Hope (which I still have hope for), Angels of Death, supposedly an Eisenhorn TV show, and that animated one they showed off 2 reveals back. I'm very pumped.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Stick with passion projects like Astartes and Death of Hope. If GW instead just threw money at those guys, that would be ok.

That's what the CGI Blood Angels show they're doing is.

You guys just keep mentioning the stuff GW is literally already working on as the stuff that should happen.

No, chances are they'll **** it up.

SirGunslinger wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
It would need to be on a channel with no censorship. I don't want to see pg13 40k.

Yes, but it has to be bloody/gory/violent for the sake of the story, not for the sake of pure grimdark. The first Death of Hope episode made the latter mistake, and in my opinion it's pretty bad. It could have been good if he'd given us something to hold onto during all of it, but just seeing pain, death, and suffering for the sake of grimdark isn't great for entertainment. It's like comparing Saving Private Ryan to something like Saw.

That said, there's a lot of great 40k stuff coming out now or soon. We've got Astartes, Death of Hope (which I still have hope for), Angels of Death, supposedly an Eisenhorn TV show, and that animated one they showed off 2 reveals back. I'm very pumped.

Death of Hope was establishing the atmosphere on a Word Bearers ship in the warp during one of the bloodiest campaigns in the Heresy. We're you expecting rainbows and unicorns?