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Hmmm...no FLGS in my area carries GW since there is a GW shop just down the road. Normally I would not be interested in an IA figure, but this one is damn great!

Love the Predator reference, also evidence GW can make good Guard models. Wish they’d update the Catachans and Cadians to the Command Squad standards, or even make a plastic version of one of the metal regiments.

That is neat.

 Fayric wrote:
Like any IG officer you put some love in, he will die gloriously like a hero in every battle.

Hey, just like Carl Weathers!

That is a great looking model.

Hope I can get one. My FLGS is doing curbside pickup, and I put in an order form to see if I could get one pre-ordered or held for me.

I'm a huge fan of Predator, so I need this next to my Sly Marbo (I know it's supposed to be Rambo/Sly Stallone, but the most recent sculpt looks more like Dutch from Predator)

Ooooh, I just realized I could put these with one of those awesome Artel W Striking Scorpions.

While I appreciate the Carl Weathers/Predator vibes...this more or less confirms there's a strong chance of a Catachan reboot and that's unfortunate.

 Elbows wrote:
While I appreciate the Carl Weathers/Predator vibes...this more or less confirms there's a strong chance of a Catachan reboot and that's unfortunate.

Isn't that a good thing? As much as I would prefer greatcoat guard as the new foray into the main infantry plastic range for Guard, not having to see the very oddly proportioned plastic Catachans as the mainstay alongside Cadians would be a definite plus in my books.

Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

GW is behind the 8ball as usual, madrobot miniatures bits made suitable conversions yrs ago here:
https://madrobotminiatures.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9_10&products_id=100

https://imgur.com/a/TTY7voM

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

Because the moment when people might be interested in a whole army of Rambos has passed.

It passed somewhere around 1987 IIRC.

Personally I still think/hope we'll get a plastic reboot of all the major regiments, but I have been known to make mistakes before. From time to time.

My FLG gets 1 and I entered the deathbattle to claim it.
But the real question is for how much will it sell on E-bay?

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Poor form for GW if they're limiting orders so sharply. More models helps FLGSs, fewer only helps scalpers.

 Elbows wrote:
While I appreciate the Carl Weathers/Predator vibes...this more or less confirms there's a strong chance of a Catachan reboot and that's unfortunate.

I doubt it because if you look at the equipment he's wearing there's nothing specifically Catachan about it. If he was wearing a shirt beneath his flak jacket and you trimmed the plants from the base he could easily pass as a Cadian, or some other generic Guard officer.

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
While I appreciate the Carl Weathers/Predator vibes...this more or less confirms there's a strong chance of a Catachan reboot and that's unfortunate.

I doubt it because if you look at the equipment he's wearing there's nothing specifically Catachan about it. If he was wearing a shirt beneath his flak jacket and you trimmed the plants from the base he could easily pass as a Cadian, or some other generic Guard officer.

Which actually lines it up a bit more with the artwork in the Guard codex.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Poor form for GW if they're limiting orders so sharply. More models helps FLGSs, fewer only helps scalpers.

We have no idea what this model was originally intended for. It could have been a new Store Opening model or a one-off for some event.

In both instances, independents would never have gotten them in the first place.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

Because the moment when people might be interested in a whole army of Rambos has passed.

It passed somewhere around 1987 IIRC.

You have realised that GW's whole design focus is from the 80s or thereabouts? Even more recent armies like Tau with their mecha are still from way back based on those earlier mech anime and films. Everything else seems to be selling so I'm sure an army of Rambo's will still sell too!

 Overread wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

Because the moment when people might be interested in a whole army of Rambos has passed.

It passed somewhere around 1987 IIRC.

You have realised that GW's whole design focus is from the 80s or thereabouts? Even more recent armies like Tau with their mecha are still from way back based on those earlier mech anime and films. Everything else seems to be selling so I'm sure an army of Rambo's will still sell too!

Not to mention the nostalgia craze that has been hitting the West in most forms of the entertainment industry is applying to GW as well as you mentioned, so an updated version of the 80's feel for Catachans and Cadians would definitely be a big sell atm.

Going to try and get one. It'll add to my pile of shame (which isn't terribly huge admittedly, though I have zero time to paint with work and a newborn right now!).

I already have a mostly fully painted Vostroyan Guard army, only a handfull of infantry remain to be painted, and several vehicles also remain unpainted (mostly Leman Russes, a Chimera, and a Valkyrie).

But! For this model alone, I would do up a small Catachan force. He's gorgeous. I'll just need to get Sly Marbo because... well just because, and the new female Catachan model as well. It'll be a fun side project for sure!

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

I SEE YOU!

https://youtu.be/1vnIFrtu4G8

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Personally I still think/hope we'll get a plastic reboot of all the major regiments, but I have been known to make mistakes before. From time to time.

I know I'm starting to feel the hype!

It's a nailed on, absolute inevitability that we're all going to have to suffer* through revamped Imperial Guard regiments at this point! To state the obvious, they are a humongously popular aspect to Lenton's signature cash cow but we also exist in a time where Genestealer cultists and Sisters of Battle have their very own, rather gorgeous, plastic armies along with individual Necromunda gangs and quite random, but lovely themed, Warcry warriors also being done in placcy.

A few box sets of Catachan, Tallarn, Steel Legion, Vostroyan and, maybe, probably post fall, semi skimmed Cadians would be a straightforward ask these days, surely?

Throw in a few generic vehicle kits that they can all use between them with the odd sprinkling of special snowflake super tank and a set of transfers and you're looking at gangbuster sales.

Just keep the designer of the Taurox in a corner, please!

*not me!

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

Simple. Of all the Imperial Guard regiments, the two currently on sale/prominent are the most boring. Cadians are fething dreadful, and the Catachans look like ass, and are one of the less interesting regiments. While I fully expect a reboot of "the" Imperial Guard range I was hoping they'd have gone in a different and interesting direction.

Attention being paid to Catachans means it's a bit more likely we're keeping them as a prominent regiment....which is a shame.

Cadian equals star ship troopers
Regardless their entire planetary system has been taken over blown up so they are basically in the tanith last and only attrition until they disappear... not that I expect the star ship trooper look to disappear anytime soon.
I don’t expect tallarn
Or steampunk I mean vostroyan
And I think catachan would make the easiest conversion opportunities for genecult sprues Compared to other options such as greatcoat or vahallan


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 Elbows wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Ok i'll bite. Any particular reason it's "unfortunate"?

Simple. Of all the Imperial Guard regiments, the two currently on sale/prominent are the most boring. Cadians are fething dreadful, and the Catachans look like ass, and are one of the less interesting regiments. While I fully expect a reboot of "the" Imperial Guard range I was hoping they'd have gone in a different and interesting direction.

Attention being paid to Catachans means it's a bit more likely we're keeping them as a prominent regiment....which is a shame.

Catachan have the best rules the most special characters and are the most played in tournies.

Feel free to make DKOK if you don’t like the look. They have pretty much every option you need and a bunch more regiment specific options.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Arbitrator wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
While I appreciate the Carl Weathers/Predator vibes...this more or less confirms there's a strong chance of a Catachan reboot and that's unfortunate.

I doubt it because if you look at the equipment he's wearing there's nothing specifically Catachan about it. If he was wearing a shirt beneath his flak jacket and you trimmed the plants from the base he could easily pass as a Cadian, or some other generic Guard officer.

Which actually lines it up a bit more with the artwork in the Guard codex.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Poor form for GW if they're limiting orders so sharply. More models helps FLGSs, fewer only helps scalpers.

We have no idea what this model was originally intended for. It could have been a new Store Opening model or a one-off for some event.

In both instances, independents would never have gotten them in the first place.

According to gw this was originally going to be a limited run for a GW anniversary. They repurposed it to help the flgs, originally it would've been a GW exclusive

That actually makes things kinda interesting then. I wonder if they're allocating the stock that normally would have gone to their shops to the independents, then putting it up on the webstore as a Made to Order/Web Only product later like they've done for Eisenhorn?

Catachans are going to have the coolest kill team ever. Harker, Straken, Marbo, the lady catachan, this guy. So much win!

 Kanluwen wrote:
That actually makes things kinda interesting then. I wonder if they're allocating the stock that normally would have gone to their shops to the independents, then putting it up on the webstore as a Made to Order/Web Only product later like they've done for Eisenhorn?

I doubt it, at least in the numbers they seem to be allocating to the indies.

You can make a whole astra militarum kill team with only 5 miniature? I expect them to require much more miniatures to work.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Catachans are going to have the coolest kill team ever. Harker, Straken, Marbo, the lady catachan, this guy. So much win!

Indeed.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
You can make a whole astra militarum kill team with only 5 miniature? I expect them to require much more miniatures to work.

Well, with those 5 he mentioned, run as what they are, they could easily handle most killteams. Harker has an assault heavy Bolter and rerolls, marbo can do all kinds of sneaky melee and sniping stuff, the new model is a Catachan commander with a fist, a force to be reckoned with in killteams, and straken is literally that but scarier. Really the only lightweight here is the limited ed Bolter sarge and she could easily be used as a platoon commander with a Bolter, not a bad loadout.

Hell you'd be pushing 200pts just with Straken, marbo, and harker.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Poor form for GW if they're limiting orders so sharply. More models helps FLGSs, fewer only helps scalpers.

Limited edition models are rarely cast in advance and these were cast and done before corona became even close to issue. So even if GW wanted to give more to stores they literally would have none. They were likely intended for some event exclusive/Whatever and stock was what they had available.


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 Scrub wrote:

A few box sets of Catachan, Tallarn, Steel Legion, Vostroyan and, maybe, probably post fall, semi skimmed Cadians would be a straightforward ask these days, surely?

So. Does doing 2 regiments double the sales for GW? 3 triple? 4 quadruble? If not don't expect multiple regiments.

 The Phazer wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
That actually makes things kinda interesting then. I wonder if they're allocating the stock that normally would have gone to their shops to the independents, then putting it up on the webstore as a Made to Order/Web Only product later like they've done for Eisenhorn?

I doubt it, at least in the numbers they seem to be allocating to the indies.

For those who might be unaware, most GW shops for events like this get maybe 20 or so models...beyond that, you're 'ordering' one by purchasing it the day of the event.

If they're providing independents(which I would think there are more of than there are GW shops, even if going strictly off shops that have trade accounts with GW rather than going through distributors) with 1-3? That makes a kind of sense when considering the sheer numbers involved we're talking about.