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2020/05/21 19:19:39
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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Amazing. Raising prices on total garbage units that haven't sold in all of 8th ed (Rhinos and land raiders)
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2020/05/21 19:22:46
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Lieutenant General
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Dudeface wrote: Sqorgar wrote:Announcing price increases right now might be the most tone deaf thing GW has ever done. Can I just give them my unemployment check directly or is there a barter system where I can use the canned food I got from the bread line?
I think this is the real issue, they've picked a time when the fewest people can afford or tolerate it. I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but my other half is on the tail end of her maternity so we're harder up than usual.
I'd literally an hour earlier saod to her that if there was a cool looking new big box with crons later in the year following Saturday, I'd be all over it. Now I know that most core necron kits are going up, it's stopped me in my tracks.
The only past price increase I can find on Warhammer Community was when they increased the price on paint brushes. The date on that increase was May 19th 2018. Coincidence? Or is late May just when they do these price adjustments? And were we going to get this price adjustment even if there was no pandemic?
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2020/05/21 19:28:04
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's month 2 of the new tax year. Much easier to keep the books in control if you do changes like this as close to the beginning as you can. And honestly i think there's going to be a lot of price increases from a lot of different businesses over the next few months to try and help cope with what's been going on. I've already seen it in a few cafes and such. Prices have gone up to try and cover what's been lost.
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2020/05/21 19:29:30
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:It's month 2 of the new tax year. Much easier to keep the books in control if you do changes like this as close to the beginning as you can. And honestly i think there's going to be a lot of price increases from a lot of different businesses over the next few months to try and help cope with what's been going on. I've already seen it in a few cafes and such. Prices have gone up to try and cover what's been lost.
Then they're stupid because people have less money to spend. Demand is low, supply and desire to sell is high... that's not how price increases work.
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Keeper of the DomBox
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2020/05/21 19:30:12
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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 Ghaz wrote:Dudeface wrote: Sqorgar wrote:Announcing price increases right now might be the most tone deaf thing GW has ever done. Can I just give them my unemployment check directly or is there a barter system where I can use the canned food I got from the bread line?
I think this is the real issue, they've picked a time when the fewest people can afford or tolerate it. I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but my other half is on the tail end of her maternity so we're harder up than usual.
I'd literally an hour earlier saod to her that if there was a cool looking new big box with crons later in the year following Saturday, I'd be all over it. Now I know that most core necron kits are going up, it's stopped me in my tracks.
The only past price increase I can find on Warhammer Community was when they increased the price on paint brushes. The date on that increase was May 19th 2018. Coincidence? Or is late May just when they do these price adjustments? And were we going to get this price adjustment even if there was no pandemic?
I dare say we would have seen it anyway, but its still poor form that kits old enough to drink get price hikes every few years to the degree they do. The company is doing so well the could easily have rebounded and waited another year for this.
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2020/05/21 19:31:53
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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I'm genuinely confused....
The prices for existing $100+ single models are too low so they're going to increase them??
This is kind of a huge price hike. Several of the new characters are on there (the Primaris Captain in Phobos Armor?? REALLY??) and there are several ANCIENT kits that were already kind of tough to pay for given how poorly they've aged (looking at you, Eldar Guardians).
I will reserve final judgment until after the price increase, but I think...I think that's it. I'm out. I'm going to place one more order to get some of the stuff that I need for some of my armies (particularly my Eldar, because they were ALREADY gouging prices on those ancient eldar kits), but I think they've finally priced me out.
Next time someone pops into the Conquest thread to complain about GW-level pricing, I will refer them to this list of things that is already overpriced....and only getting worse!
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2020/05/21 19:31:58
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Dudeface wrote:
I dare say we would have seen it anyway, but its still poor form that kits old enough to drink get price hikes every few years to the degree they do. The company is doing so well the could easily have rebounded and waited another year for this.
Investors don't work that way
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2020/05/21 19:33:16
Subject: Re:"Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Charging Wild Rider
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beast_gts wrote:Right, I'm going to try to copy & paste the list of stuff - bear with me :
Cases, tools & spray paint all going up - dice & cards as well. And Endless Spells..
Thanks for that.
Looks like many of the last few sets or ranges that actually seemed reasonable value are about to lose that status.
In addition to which some things that already seemed overly expensive are about to become even more so? [sarcasm]Yeah, the Black Coach felt like an absolute steal before...[/sarcasm]
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2020/05/21 19:33:56
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Gore-Drenched Khorne Chaos Lord
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 Albertorius wrote:Dudeface wrote:
I dare say we would have seen it anyway, but its still poor form that kits old enough to drink get price hikes every few years to the degree they do. The company is doing so well the could easily have rebounded and waited another year for this.
Investors don't work that way
Weird, record unemployed customers tend not to be enthused by price hikes either.
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2020/05/21 19:34:00
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Inquisitor Gideon wrote:It's month 2 of the new tax year. Much easier to keep the books in control if you do changes like this as close to the beginning as you can. And honestly i think there's going to be a lot of price increases from a lot of different businesses over the next few months to try and help cope with what's been going on. I've already seen it in a few cafes and such. Prices have gone up to try and cover what's been lost.
Their tax year ends on the 31st of May. This is them announcing a price hike on June 1st so that people will buy more in these last few days of the fiscal year.
EDIT: it happened last year as well around this period.
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2020/05/21 19:34:57
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Aenar wrote: Inquisitor Gideon wrote:It's month 2 of the new tax year. Much easier to keep the books in control if you do changes like this as close to the beginning as you can. And honestly i think there's going to be a lot of price increases from a lot of different businesses over the next few months to try and help cope with what's been going on. I've already seen it in a few cafes and such. Prices have gone up to try and cover what's been lost.
Their tax year ends on the 31st of May. This is them announcing a price hike on June 1st so that people will buy more in these last few days of the fiscal year.
Sorta difficult when most people still can't get product. It's just a bad decision.
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Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
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2020/05/21 19:36:54
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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This would’ve been planned for a while as a wider strategy.
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2020/05/21 19:43:34
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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This is why I invested in a 3D printing partnership and have 7 3D printers. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Plans should be malleable whenva pandemic strikes
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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2020/05/21 19:51:52
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Dudeface wrote: Albertorius wrote:Dudeface wrote:
I dare say we would have seen it anyway, but its still poor form that kits old enough to drink get price hikes every few years to the degree they do. The company is doing so well the could easily have rebounded and waited another year for this.
Investors don't work that way
Weird, record unemployed customers tend not to be enthused by price hikes either.
Oh, I am well aware. Big investors, and investing firms, have so different an outlook they might be actual aliens.
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2020/05/21 19:52:47
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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God help us all when the Aussies wake up...
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2020/05/21 19:53:24
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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Then they're fools for not adapting their plans to the facts on the ground. Bumping up KHORNE BERSERKERS which are a terrible and old kit is laughable.
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Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
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2020/05/21 19:54:47
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Funnily enough, we're not laughing
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2020/05/21 19:55:53
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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As if now incomplete datacards (missing PA) haven't been overpriced before…
And basically all old marines will go up.
Rattle cans and brushes going up is also ridiculous
I'm not happy at al and will reduce my purchases accordingly.
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2020/05/21 19:58:21
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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These price increases do absolutely nothing as well. People don't HAVE more money, so they're still spending X amount on GW products just getting less for their money.
Do they think people will just increase the budget of money they don't have? I can't even sell Rhinos for 15$ atm, let alone 60 or whatever they'll be.
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Warhammer Armies - Click to see galleries of fully painted armies
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2020/05/21 19:59:29
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Eh this is depressing to see but I do think its a bigger list than the might have done without Corona. Even though GW has soaked and survived pretty well they've still likely made some huge losses. Plus they've also got some big investments that have been unsold for two months since they were supposed to go on sale.
This might take some of the wind from the new releases going on sale; but at the same time its likely part of a strategy to recoup lost income steadily. I say that because there's some really recent stuff like Bonereaper models on that list. Plus there's a fair few terrain and overseas produced stuff which might be reflecting higher prices for imports for various factors (eg I can't see GW wanting to have rising the Stormvault prices when its already £95 for an optional terrain feature; but if the overseas costs have gone up - factories closing; new contracts; shipping cost adjustments; new rises in tax due to increased bio-security at ports etc... then it all ends up filtering down to the customer in the end).
I agree that other places will also be raising prices. Whilst in theory lower prices would be better, I think a lot of places are anticipating fewer customers for a longer while so wanting to make more off those who choose and can afford; rather than rely on mass sales. Certainly food outlets are likely thinking that way for a good while as even when they are allowed to open chances are their seating is going to be restricted for quite a while.
Also now I really have to consider grabbing a Morathi.....
We've also no idea by how much things are going up - some might be only one or two pound increases.
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2020/05/21 19:59:33
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 Kirasu wrote:
Then they're fools for not adapting their plans to the facts on the ground. Bumping up KHORNE BERSERKERS which are a terrible and old kit is laughable.
But now when they finally release new berserkers at an even higher price, you can say "these models look great, and only cost 15$ more than the old kit"
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2020/05/21 20:00:24
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Every year (or so), GW announces price hikes, and every year, the expert financial anlysts of the internet predict the utter foolishness to increase prices. I mean, we all got it wrong the first 20 times or so, but this will surely be the price increase that kills the goose laying golden eggs.
Or... GW might actually know what they are doing, and will continue the strategy that has worked so far: extracting money from price immune customers, especially on a range of kits that are generally, but not always, not big sellers anyway.
There just aren't a lot of bread and butter units on that list, aside from classic marines which we all know have a an expiration date on them.
Don't get me wrong, I don't like price hikes, and I stand by the idea that bundles and lower entry point boxes work for GW. I just can't argue that it's a bad strategy for a company. Even during the pandemic. First off... social distancing is money in the bank for a company that first and foremost produces model kits you can build on your own. Second off, their target demographic are far more likely to keep their jobs/hours.
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2020/05/21 20:00:32
Subject: Re:"Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Inspiring Icon Bearer
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New Prices from Facebook (I'm sorry- I don't know how to spoiler attachments!):
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2020/05/21 20:04:13
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Dudeface wrote: Sqorgar wrote:Announcing price increases right now might be the most tone deaf thing GW has ever done. Can I just give them my unemployment check directly or is there a barter system where I can use the canned food I got from the bread line?
I think this is the real issue, they've picked a time when the fewest people can afford or tolerate it. I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but my other half is on the tail end of her maternity so we're harder up than usual. I'd literally an hour earlier saod to her that if there was a cool looking new big box with crons later in the year following Saturday, I'd be all over it. Now I know that most core necron kits are going up, it's stopped me in my tracks.
GW are probably banking on their whales - of which there are many - will front the bill against those dropping out due to financial difficulty. It will more than likely work too. And they'll keep buying it, so what do GW care? At this point, as whiny as I am, I'm barely sympathetic to people who complain about GW prices and yet keep buying it up and end up denying their own prophecy that "This will surely hurt GW! This is madness! Omg I can't wait to pre-order the new boxset, I must have at least three!"
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2020/05/21 20:11:30
Subject: Re:"Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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It depends how much they will increase prices, but if its going to be Howling Banshee standard across the board then I'm calling it a day.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2020/05/21 20:13:36
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Arbitrator wrote:Dudeface wrote: Sqorgar wrote:Announcing price increases right now might be the most tone deaf thing GW has ever done. Can I just give them my unemployment check directly or is there a barter system where I can use the canned food I got from the bread line?
I think this is the real issue, they've picked a time when the fewest people can afford or tolerate it. I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but my other half is on the tail end of her maternity so we're harder up than usual.
I'd literally an hour earlier saod to her that if there was a cool looking new big box with crons later in the year following Saturday, I'd be all over it. Now I know that most core necron kits are going up, it's stopped me in my tracks.
GW are probably banking on their whales - of which there are many - will front the bill against those dropping out due to financial difficulty. It will more than likely work too.
And they'll keep buying it, so what do GW care?
At this point, as whiny as I am, I'm barely sympathetic to people who complain about GW prices and yet keep buying it up and end up denying their own prophecy that "This will surely hurt GW! This is madness! Omg I can't wait to pre-order the new boxset, I must have at least three!"
There is a difference in logic behind raising prices on GOOD units like Primaris vs on 20 year old models that are utterly terrible in the game such as Khorne Berserkers. Certainly they've made their money back? It seems incredibly dumb to increase prices on a unit that already doesn't sell.
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2020/05/21 20:14:09
Subject: Re:"Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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SamusDrake wrote:It depends how much they will increase prices, but if its going to be Howling Banshee standard across the board then I'm calling it a day.
The US prices are in images linked above from facebook.
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2020/05/21 20:14:25
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Huh. We've been unable to buy any of their stuff due to current global circumstances. Now that we can buy their stuff again (but not really though. Their supply chain isn't able to make stock available to most of their retailers) they're raising prices. Great. I'll feel even better that literally every FW item I buy comes from China and I'll continue to ensure that 100% of the GW text and audio media I consume is unpaid
 Polonius wrote:Second off, their target demographic are far more likely to keep their jobs/hours.
Explain please.
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2020/05/21 20:17:01
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Polonius wrote:Second off, their target demographic are far more likely to keep their jobs/hours.
Explain please.
If you can afford to regularly but GW stuff you're probably working a job that gives you a good amount of disposable income. Kirasu wrote: Arbitrator wrote:Dudeface wrote: Sqorgar wrote:Announcing price increases right now might be the most tone deaf thing GW has ever done. Can I just give them my unemployment check directly or is there a barter system where I can use the canned food I got from the bread line?
I think this is the real issue, they've picked a time when the fewest people can afford or tolerate it. I'm lucky enough to have been working throughout but my other half is on the tail end of her maternity so we're harder up than usual. I'd literally an hour earlier saod to her that if there was a cool looking new big box with crons later in the year following Saturday, I'd be all over it. Now I know that most core necron kits are going up, it's stopped me in my tracks.
GW are probably banking on their whales - of which there are many - will front the bill against those dropping out due to financial difficulty. It will more than likely work too. And they'll keep buying it, so what do GW care? At this point, as whiny as I am, I'm barely sympathetic to people who complain about GW prices and yet keep buying it up and end up denying their own prophecy that "This will surely hurt GW! This is madness! Omg I can't wait to pre-order the new boxset, I must have at least three!"
There is a difference in logic behind raising prices on GOOD units like Primaris vs on 20 year old models that are utterly terrible in the game such as Khorne Berserkers. Certainly they've made their money back? It seems incredibly dumb to increase prices on a unit that already doesn't sell.
The logic's simple. People have been buying ancient Berserkers for decades. The price hikes before never stopped them. Why would it now?
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2020/05/21 20:19:52
Subject: "Heads-up: Price Adjustment, New Releases!" - GW
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Land Raider from $80 to $96.
Seems legit. Automatically Appended Next Post: Arbitrator wrote: Polonius wrote:Second off, their target demographic are far more likely to keep their jobs/hours.
Explain please.
If you can afford to regularly but GW stuff you're probably working a job that gives you a good amount of disposable income.
That's true for a lot of people. Well, was. Until now.
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