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2020/05/25 01:58:43
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
insaniak wrote: Turning them into repulsor bikes would be a ridiculously easy conversion, with a couple of plates from the grav tank... just leave off the front forks and the back wheel, and add a grav plate front and rear.
Yup. I'd love to say that I came up with it on my own but I saw this a while back so already have a prototype that someone put together for home 3d printing.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: I don't mind these new bikes, but I can see why making them grav-bikes would have perhaps been a better aesthetic for the Primaris. It'd make 'em fit with all their eyesore tanks.
Consistency does help. The example I posted above even comes standard in ultramarinish blue... it's a sign from the Emperor! Do it!
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2020/05/25 02:14:33
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
The more Blanchesque Necron kits look amazing, but I am baffled at GW's media strategy. I sat through a 2 hour stream to see a primaris marine with a chainsword and a redone necron warriors kit, then within a few hours all this extra gonzo stuff shows up. I can only think how much more exciting the stream would have been if they'd dropped some of this stuff on us then.
2020/05/25 02:17:11
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
soviet13 wrote: The more Blanchesque Necron kits look amazing, but I am baffled at GW's media strategy. I sat through a 2 hour stream to see a primaris marine with a chainsword and a redone necron warriors kit, then within a few hours all this extra gonzo stuff shows up. I can only think how much more exciting the stream would have been if they'd dropped some of this stuff on us then.
The rest of this was not intended to be revealed. They even alluded to the "potato camera" aka someone leaked the upcoming release and took a terrible photo. Since the photo was already out there, GW just decided to go ahead and show off everything. Which is what they usually do with leaks now. They did it with Magnus, teased the Sons of Behemet, and a ton of other leaks. So this is just GW being nice, not them not understanding how to properly preview models.
2020/05/25 02:18:01
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
That stuff got leaked via people fooling around in the coding for the new 40k page in all likelihood. It was going to be revealed in time. The stream was the reveal.
2020/05/25 02:20:09
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
But I don't see the harm in going "We're announcing a new edition... and here's the starter box where you can get the great new rulebook!".
We don't end up with people going "I watched an hour and a half and saw Primaris Marines with Chainswords and replacement Necron Warriors... where's the rest?"
Of course GW aren't in a position one could envy. They're stuck revealing the new edition whilst still having 3 PA books to get through.
Yeah, the community article today seemed as if it were in response to the spilling of the new starter contents.
In any case, revealing everything that’s been revealed this weekend (inadvertent or not) is the better move over drip feeding models from the starter over the course of June until the complete contents are finally shown off in July when preorders go live.
As has been mentioned, I’m sure GW themselves have a backlog of stuff including the PA books from which to create content.
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2020/05/25 03:10:27
Subject: Re:40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Just because I'm ignorant to the method of design -> casting -> resale, why are these miniatures colored this way? Are they like, initial sculpts or something?
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2020/05/25 03:15:04
Subject: Re:40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Just because I'm ignorant to the method of design -> casting -> resale, why are these miniatures colored this way? Are they like, initial sculpts or something?
They're 3D renders, not actually cast models.
2020/05/25 03:23:24
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
I hope there’s eventually Primaris Captains and Lieutenants at least on bikes. I’d love to convert the style of bikes we’re getting into some gnarly hog
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2020/05/25 03:31:15
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
I’m of two minds. The unplanned leaks saved the Saturday reveal, but clearly GW wanted to save those for later. Showing literally 4-5 of those dozen new models from the large Necron and Space Marine would have made the official GW stream a real success. But in the end, control of messaging is elusive in the internet age. It’ll shrink whatever the next reveal is (or obviate it all together), but no big deal. In the end, I’m looking forward to the releases.
2020/05/25 05:10:03
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
dienekes96 wrote: I’m of two minds. The unplanned leaks saved the Saturday reveal, but clearly GW wanted to save those for later. Showing literally 4-5 of those dozen new models from the large Necron and Space Marine would have made the official GW stream a real success. But in the end, control of messaging is elusive in the internet age. It’ll shrink whatever the next reveal is (or obviate it all together), but no big deal. In the end, I’m looking forward to the releases.
GW has a history of teasing this kind of stuff out over time to keep the hype up. This is probably a couple weeks of content gone, though they'll probably come back to them later and toss in a rule or two to pad it out later.
2020/05/25 05:38:53
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
ClockworkZion wrote: GW has a history of teasing this kind of stuff out over time to keep the hype up. This is probably a couple weeks of content gone, though they'll probably come back to them later and toss in a rule or two to pad it out later.
Nothing wrong with longer teases, especially for a major release, but it's clear they've got a ton of new kits outside of the new starter box lined up, so I don't see why announcing the starterbox alongside the announcement of the new edition would have been so hard.
ClockworkZion wrote: GW has a history of teasing this kind of stuff out over time to keep the hype up. This is probably a couple weeks of content gone, though they'll probably come back to them later and toss in a rule or two to pad it out later.
Nothing wrong with longer teases, especially for a major release, but it's clear they've got a ton of new kits outside of the new starter box lined up, so I don't see why announcing the starterbox alongside the announcement of the new edition would have been so hard.
Hard? No. But they likely wanted to tease this out over weeks until the actual edition launch was ready to go. Probably an article a week like they've done for other stuff in the past.
2020/05/25 07:05:58
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
GW love to drag things out to create as much hype as possible, because they are fully aware that there is a large chunk of their target audience, who are very susceptible to hype.
It also helps take focus off their immediate price increases
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2020/05/25 07:21:46
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
stonehorse wrote: GW love to drag things out to create as much hype as possible, because they are fully aware that there is a large chunk of their target audience, who are very susceptible to hype.
It also helps take focus off their immediate price increases
If I was a more cynical person I'd say the leaked pics are entirely a reaction to the anger over price increases. Nothing stops gamers in their tracks like the new shinies.
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2020/05/25 07:23:43
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Soulless wrote: So the Judiciar is what, a space marine commisar?
Roumered to be some sort of dualist charictor that makes an enemy unit strike last in CC.
Though I suspect he'll do nothing untill they get their new 3.0 Codex.
2020/05/25 07:24:24
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
stonehorse wrote: GW love to drag things out to create as much hype as possible, because they are fully aware that there is a large chunk of their target audience, who are very susceptible to hype.
It also helps take focus off their immediate price increases
If I was a more cynical person I'd say the leaked pics are entirely a reaction to the anger over price increases. Nothing stops gamers in their tracks like the new shinies.
I suspect the blurry images are GW deliberately leaking them. No way non-GW could so consistently get bad picture out. Sure I could see sometimes. But every single time? With these ages phone cameras make it easy to get non blurry photo yet nobody ever manages that trick? Either every rumour leaker is so incompetent they manage to misuse camera big time or it's GW deliberately leaking it.
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2020/05/25 07:36:38
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Soulless wrote: So the Judiciar is what, a space marine commisar?
Roumered to be some sort of dualist charictor that makes an enemy unit strike last in CC.
Though I suspect he'll do nothing untill they get their new 3.0 Codex.
I'm betting he's a loyalist Master of Executions.
And if loyalists get a new codex before the older chaos and xenos codexes are updated I predict more salt than in the entire Pacific. By both players of said factions and loyalist players whose codex still has ink drying from the printers.
2020/05/25 07:40:58
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
I mean, there no ‘if’ about that. They’ve new toys so their Codex will be first out of the gate. Prep your salt if that’s how you need to react, but Marines will be first and Necrons second.
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2020/05/25 07:54:23
Subject: Re:40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Leave jetbikes to custodes (as they are that rare) in the imperium.
As soon as they start having grav tanks, grav bikes etc etc, it's overlapping too much with Eldar.
Also, I think it looks cooler, and it seems more brutal to not be mounted on a jet bike. Charging head first into the enemy, on a massive bike, weapons blazing, the mental image is better on a land based bike, you don't need agility if you're aiming to hit hard and from a straight line charge. The bikes can be bigger and sturdier as well with wheels, they'd have to be more sleek if they were jet bikes, again taking away from part of their potency, which would be hitting fast with a hell of a lot of mass.
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2020/05/25 07:58:35
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Soulless wrote: So the Judiciar is what, a space marine commisar?
Roumered to be some sort of dualist charictor that makes an enemy unit strike last in CC.
Though I suspect he'll do nothing untill they get their new 3.0 Codex.
I'm betting he's a loyalist Master of Executions.
And if loyalists get a new codex before the older chaos and xenos codexes are updated I predict more salt than in the entire Pacific. By both players of said factions and loyalist players whose codex still has ink drying from the printers.
Tbf the inspiration of the Exesword compared to it's implementation on the model is meh at best.
As for the salt, i don't know, new models require new rules otoh they stated explicitly that the codexes and PA aswell as vigilus would span over, i think they will get a shadowspear type deal with an updated v1.5 dex not unlike we got down the line.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
2020/05/25 08:05:03
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Soulless wrote: So the Judiciar is what, a space marine commisar?
Roumered to be some sort of dualist charictor that makes an enemy unit strike last in CC.
Though I suspect he'll do nothing untill they get their new 3.0 Codex.
I'm betting he's a loyalist Master of Executions.
And if loyalists get a new codex before the older chaos and xenos codexes are updated I predict more salt than in the entire Pacific. By both players of said factions and loyalist players whose codex still has ink drying from the printers.
Tbf the inspiration of the Exesword compared to it's implementation on the model is meh at best.
As for the salt, i don't know, new models require new rules otoh they stated explicitly that the codexes and PA aswell as vigilus would span over, i think they will get a shadowspear type deal with an updated v1.5 dex not unlike we got down the line.
That's what I expect as well. Or possibly including the rules for the new models in a new campaign book, so purchase of the a new codex wouldn't be a requirement, as they did with Vigilus Ablaze.
2020/05/25 08:12:30
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
Soulless wrote: So the Judiciar is what, a space marine commisar?
Roumered to be some sort of dualist charictor that makes an enemy unit strike last in CC.
Though I suspect he'll do nothing untill they get their new 3.0 Codex.
I'm betting he's a loyalist Master of Executions.
And if loyalists get a new codex before the older chaos and xenos codexes are updated I predict more salt than in the entire Pacific. By both players of said factions and loyalist players whose codex still has ink drying from the printers.
Tbf the inspiration of the Exesword compared to it's implementation on the model is meh at best.
As for the salt, i don't know, new models require new rules otoh they stated explicitly that the codexes and PA aswell as vigilus would span over, i think they will get a shadowspear type deal with an updated v1.5 dex not unlike we got down the line.
That's what I expect as well. Or possibly including the rules for the new models in a new campaign book, so purchase of the a new codex wouldn't be a requirement, as they did with Vigilus Ablaze.
They already let the cat out the back on stream, their is a new Marine codex with added Crusade content for all your narative game needs.
Not to mention when has the contents of the starter box not been one of the first codex's to drop across the last 5 editions.
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2020/05/25 08:15:28
Subject: 40k preview, May 23-9th edition, new Necrons, Marines
and people wonder why there is a demand for consolidation ...
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.