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I started in '88. We *still* use 8X4 for 2000 pt battles. We only drop down to 6X4 for 1500 and 4X4 for 1000.

But, you know, I'm old, so.

jivardi wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Are people really just ignoring the word minimum here?

No one is ignoring it, it's just irrelevant for a huge section of US players since pretty much every single meta, TO, and store in the US adjusts to ITC rules. It's literally the reason I moved to home gaming.

Ah yes, good ol' Dakkaites thinking that a few dozen people on the internet, a few dozen gaming stores and a couple of tournaments represents the ENTIRE 40k player base.

It's kind of like how some people thinking that a few dozen people posting their opinions on Dakka Dakka represent the entirety of the opinions on the site (A Dakka Dakka Hive Mind?) - even though, by posting what they're posting, they've already invalidated their own point!

I'm still looking forward to 9th, I look forward to learning more about the rest of the new and changed rules, and I look forward to continuing to play on a 6' x 4' table too.

 alextroy wrote:
I concur. There is a big difference between "I'm concerned about this change" and "this change is going to ruin the game". The truth is you need to wait and see all the rules to know the impact of any one change, so anyone declaring the game is ruined is prejudging over limited information.

It's like movie trailers. A good trailer makes you want to see the movie. A bad trailer makes you forget about the movie. Neither decides if the movie is good or bad. You only know when you go see the movie.

And yet the wait and see group is proven wrong time after time. Gw isn't complex game maker. There isn't subtle interaction to look.

Marine codex 2 coming and wait and see people kept saying its not going to be as bad as it looked. They were wrong.


8th ed. Wrong.

Wait and see people are just denying undeniable. Putting head in sand like that bird.

Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Or at least some badly compressed video of some sprues that might conceivably contain Necron parts…

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

I agree. With each of these Warhammer daily things, they’ve talked about the 9 things of 9th edition, and are doing the last of those next week leasing up to Saturday to show off the starter box. Possibly a pre-order the week after?

tneva82 wrote:

Marine codex 2 coming and wait and see people kept saying its not going to be as bad as it looked. They were wrong.

Marine Codex 2 was an excellent boost to an ailing faction and fixed many issues. Sure, the supplements were an overkill. The codex was good though.

8th ed. Wrong.

8th edition was a massive improvement over the previous one, revitalised the game and made it more popular than it has ever been.

Wait and see people are just denying undeniable. Putting head in sand like that bird.

Perhaps you should take your head out of the negatitivity bubble and observe the reality for a change?

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

I wonder if many of the larger tournaments will like this change in terms of getting more tables into the same spaces as before?

I also wonder how many will just keep what they've already invested in and either stick to 6' x 4' or 'tape off' sections?

Will be interesting to see!

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

I think that in the UK the board size business will have not much of an effect, in my area atleast tournament play is rare with the exception of some people going to GT

Marking off the boards with tape will be just fine. Room for dice and tape measures, data cards, and VP counters.

I dont know about you but leaving all the various stratagem, psychic cards, VP cards for maelstrom, and handfuls of dice along the board means I'm constantly picking things up and moving them out of the way of models.

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Yeah. I can see Pariah going up for preview this coming Sunday, which would put it at 27th June for a release. Bill a two week preview/preorder schedule in for the boxset and 9th would put it at 11th July.

My table is 4' x 6'2" - it helps...a little!

There's usually enough room left somewhere for most stuff anyway though. Especially after the first turn.

 Sasori wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Yeah. I can see Pariah going up for preview this coming Sunday, which would put it at 27th June for a release. Bill a two week preview/preorder schedule in for the boxset and 9th would put it at 11th July.

Assuming that Lumineth are not going to come out beforehand? i think we'll get a preorder for Pariah on the 27th June. Maybe a 2 week preorder for 9th edition, somewhere in July. My guess is release date for 9th will be 18th, or more realistically the 25th July.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Marking off the boards with tape will be just fine. Room for dice and tape measures, data cards, and VP counters.

I dont know about you but leaving all the various stratagem, psychic cards, VP cards for maelstrom, and handfuls of dice along the board means I'm constantly picking things up and moving them out of the way of models.

Why not get rid of the miniatures alltogether? Soon it will a perfectly balanced cardgame.
You can leave the miniatures att Home!

 Sasori wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Yeah. I can see Pariah going up for preview this coming Sunday, which would put it at 27th June for a release. Bill a two week preview/preorder schedule in for the boxset and 9th would put it at 11th July.

Sounds about right.

We all want it to be here sooner, but there's a pent up queue that they'll work through first...

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Theyve released on US holidays before, they dont make exceptions for US celebrations.

July 11th is the likely release date based on the 8th edition release schedule.

 bullyboy wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Yeah. I can see Pariah going up for preview this coming Sunday, which would put it at 27th June for a release. Bill a two week preview/preorder schedule in for the boxset and 9th would put it at 11th July.

Assuming that Lumineth are not going to come out beforehand? i think we'll get a preorder for Pariah on the 27th June. Maybe a 2 week preorder for 9th edition, somewhere in July. My guess is release date for 9th will be 18th, or more realistically the 25th July.

I think if we were going to see AoS stuff, that it would have been one of the last three previews. I'm thinking that AoS will now fill the gap between the 9th release and the Necron Release.

 Sasori wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

Yeah. I can see Pariah going up for preview this coming Sunday, which would put it at 27th June for a release. Bill a two week preview/preorder schedule in for the boxset and 9th would put it at 11th July.

Assuming that Lumineth are not going to come out beforehand? i think we'll get a preorder for Pariah on the 27th June. Maybe a 2 week preorder for 9th edition, somewhere in July. My guess is release date for 9th will be 18th, or more realistically the 25th July.

I think if we were going to see AoS stuff, that it would have been one of the last three previews. I'm thinking that AoS will now fill the gap between the 9th release and the Necron Release.

There are 2 armies worth to release (elves/giants) and another blackstone expansion, a warcry warband or two etc.

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

They've done more than one edition launch around the start of July. 2 week preorder with it being released first week of July is on point.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tinfoil hat time: there is no new Necron codex, and the leaked cover is part of the starter box containing new Necron rules. Everything else is part of Pariah like the expanded Ad Mech were part of Engine War.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

They've done more than one edition launch around the start of July. 2 week preorder with it being released first week of July is on point.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tinfoil hat time: there is no new Necron codex, and the leaked cover is part of the starter box containing new Necron rules. Everything else is part of Pariah like the expanded Ad Mech were part of Engine War.

There is a zero percent chance that there is no new Necron codex with the huge release coming. When it's coming is really the question.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are looking at 9th, followed by a few weeks of AoS releases, and then the new Necron release with the new codex.

Do you think the new Marine Codex will come out at the same time as the Necron Codex, or will they give one or the other time to breath and sell related releases before unleashing the next?

 Alpharius wrote:
Do you think the new Marine Codex will come out at the same time as the Necron Codex, or will they give one or the other time to breath and sell related releases before unleashing the next?

The new C:SM will come out before during and after the Necron codex, to keep the SM players happy and up to date.
erm i meant milked.

I don't think they would release two codexes at the same time, especially given that most people play marines. They will want to try to get some of those marine players to dump 1000 quid on a new necron army, and they're less likely to do that if you release their codex at the same time.

Given that practically nobody plays Necrons right now, and how hard they're going in on pushing it with this huge new model release...they have every incentive to hype it to the skies and then drop something that encourages players to switch factions. And the players most likely to switch are space marine players, both because there's the most of them, and because they're the most likely to jump ship to the next FOTM, because they are playing the current FOTM.

At the same time, lost of players will only ever play space marines, so there's a strong interest in pleasing those people too, once they've seen how many they can tempt into dumping the cash for a new army. So I'd expect the new Space Marine codex to come out only a month or two after the Necron release.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Spoiler:

 Asmodai wrote:

 Aenar wrote:

 Sasori wrote:

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yay, we’ll finally get some high res images of more Necrons!

Hopefully they reveal what the new units do and their names.


With all of this, I'm thinking that leaked schedule putting 9th at the first week of august may be wrong. That seems to far away with how quick everything is getting revealed now.

Three years ago they unboxed the starter and then it went on preorder the next Saturday (2 weeks preorder before release).
We might get 9th ed before or alongside Pariah.

That would suggest July 4 - but I really doubt they'd release on a US holiday. July 11 maybe?

They've done more than one edition launch around the start of July. 2 week preorder with it being released first week of July is on point.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Tinfoil hat time: there is no new Necron codex, and the leaked cover is part of the starter box containing new Necron rules. Everything else is part of Pariah like the expanded Ad Mech were part of Engine War.

That's what I've been thinking. It would explain the sparse number of factions in Pariah as well as why they would release it so close to a new codex. Pariah could basically be the new Necron codex.

if 8th edition is any indication there will be a month or so between faction releases