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Danit wrote: I suspect sisters will be a early 9th update as they are pushing them as a 9th front runner on the 40k website, so somthing like necrons > SM> Sisters isnt out of the question
Yeah, somehow I doubt even GW is going to ask people to buy re-buy a book they literally bought 8 months ago.
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Danit wrote: I suspect sisters will be a early 9th update as they are pushing them as a 9th front runner on the 40k website, so somthing like necrons > SM> Sisters isnt out of the question
Yeah, somehow I doubt even GW is going to ask people to buy re-buy a book they literally bought 8 months ago.
They are going to be doing it with SM, but Sisters are not SM.
Danit wrote: I suspect sisters will be a early 9th update as they are pushing them as a 9th front runner on the 40k website, so somthing like necrons > SM> Sisters isnt out of the question
Yeah, somehow I doubt even GW is going to ask people to buy re-buy a book they literally bought 8 months ago.
They are going to be doing it with SM, but Sisters are not SM.
As you say Sisters are not Marines and the Marine codex will be a year old by then and not released in practically the same calendar year like Sisters would be.
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Danit wrote: Sisters codex is approaching a year old now
The LE box was released in November and general retail was in January. It only feels like a year because of the lockdown.
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Danit wrote: I suspect sisters will be a early 9th update as they are pushing them as a 9th front runner on the 40k website, so somthing like necrons > SM> Sisters isnt out of the question
Yeah, somehow I doubt even GW is going to ask people to buy re-buy a book they literally bought 8 months ago.
They are going to be doing it with SM, but Sisters are not SM.
As you say Sisters are not Marines and the Marine codex will be a year old by then and not released in practically the same calendar year like Sisters would be.
I am saying Sisters are not Marines, therefore they will not receive the glut of releases like Marines receive.
Ice_can wrote: I appreciate them puuting that out.
Not impressed at idiots sending them emaila about WTF playtesters suck.
But it's a bad sign when your playtesters do a better PR Job of managing the disaster you call a balance update than the company with a PR department.
The company's PR department is using influencers as a tool to manage the PR. People like TT (both of them), and other batrep websites, are part of the system. I guarentee there's a number of people in GW's marketing whose entire focus on managing influencers.
where they mention they were actually playtesting new codex makes me sure Chaos is in there.
Chef is a massive necrons player too and he was heavily involved so I imagine Necrons are coming too.
Good video that btw. They are very open about how the new points are not good, but they are adamant that future is bright, they just can't tell how long people may have to wait. Very open and honest about what is bad and what is good
edit: ninja'd!! lol
If this was like, some free balance patch or somethinh thatd be one thing but gw wants to charge me like 100 bucks for an update that makes the game less balanced and less fun for me...and I should accept that because later on I'll have the "privilege" of buying ANOTHER 40 dollar book that will honest and for realsies fix it this time (not like ladt time when your GSC played in the index for nearly a year and a half and you had to pretend you were cool with people beating you with crazy stratagems and subfaction traits and relics that you literally got nothing to compensate for)
Really? Pay 100$ for the gift of us making your hobby shittier so that tou can pay us 40$ later to fix it?
feth that. It takes more negotiation and discussion of personal limits and preferences to get a mutually enjoyable game of 40k going than it does to arrange activities that involve bodily penetration.
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
Sisters are not just brand new but they only just got a massive release. Whilst GW is pushing them marketing wise, they don't need to release anything more for htem right now. If anything if they release too much they risk swamping their sisters players.
I can't see them getting another 6 or so kits and a new codex this soon. At best they might get some replacements like the crusaders in new plastic and swapping out more of the remaining finecast/metal; but not a whole new book with brand new kits.
If anything their book is likely built with 9th edition in mind
Ice_can wrote: I suspect Necrons then SM then probably a month of DW, DA, Furries and Roid Junkies being turned into suppliments as GW has to be sick of the mess of primaris all thes snowflake chapters are making.
That's probably enough to take it out to Christmas if they ever actually release the new FW books to the public.
Next year probably yet more Primaris and hopefully somemore of the Failcast models finally get swapped out for sculpts that can't drink in the entire world.
Sick? They get to release even more primaris. Any excuse to release another marine kit is yey for gw.
Except if they fold them into suppliments it's a simplified case of updating 1 codex instead of the current mess of 6+ FAQ and errata updates.
Then DW players complaining about why they don't get the latest Primaris OP hotness unit.
Dw gets them if shoulder pads fit and won't if don't.
They get the contents of the box set which dont have separated pads on...
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ERJAK wrote: I know we just got an entire new army release but...I still want some more Sisters stuff.
2 reasons beyond "because I play that army"
1. Even with the addition of mortifiers Zephyrim The triumph and the battle sanctum, the army still has a bunch of obvious holes in it. No flyer, no light vehicle, no cavalry equivalent, no heavy infantry, no centerpiece model.
2. The only possible way we'll see a new codex within the next year and a half is if they have a model release for it. I know our codex is both very new and pretty darn good, but goddam if I wouldn't love to not get our codex 4 months before the dnd of the edition for once. And that's literal btw, every edition Sisters of battle have had a codex release it's come out immediately before an edition change.
I mean... this has been 8 months, but sure.
Really? The army wasn't playable till march, even if you DID have metal models.
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Overread wrote: Sisters are not just brand new but they only just got a massive release. Whilst GW is pushing them marketing wise, they don't need to release anything more for htem right now. If anything if they release too much they risk swamping their sisters players.
I can't see them getting another 6 or so kits and a new codex this soon. At best they might get some replacements like the crusaders in new plastic and swapping out more of the remaining finecast/metal; but not a whole new book with brand new kits.
If anything their book is likely built with 9th edition in mind
It's really not. It's a good book, sure, but it's no more 9th ready than any of the other codexes were.
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Danit wrote: I suspect sisters will be a early 9th update as they are pushing them as a 9th front runner on the 40k website, so somthing like necrons > SM> Sisters isnt out of the question
Yeah, somehow I doubt even GW is going to ask people to buy re-buy a book they literally bought 8 months ago.
Never doubt GW ability to put out books. GW puts out tons of them more so then anything else they make. It is a big money maker for them. Change a few rules put out a new book or supplement.
If anything their book is likely built with 9th edition in mind
Lol no it wasn't. Too much rules that gets totally neutered or even completely removed for it to be 9th ed compliant. Plus whole sacred rites makes zero sense in edition where core rules encourage mono building. That is mark of 8th ed codex. 9th ed codexes shouldn't have that.
If anything their book is likely built with 9th edition in mind
Lol no it wasn't. Too much rules that gets totally neutered or even completely removed for it to be 9th ed compliant. Plus whole sacred rites makes zero sense in edition where core rules encourage mono building. That is mark of 8th ed codex. 9th ed codexes shouldn't have that.
Examples? And what about sacred rites no longer makes sense?
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Nurglitch wrote: Mind you, the books themselves are lovely. Kind of a waste if you're just buying them as gaming manuals, but fantastic if you like perusing them.
Agreed, I still read my various second edition codices now, but that may be more to do with the nostalgia than anything.
Now I really want to see the base for bonebreakas. They could double as pizza platters
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
It would make the game work better if there was not the weird hull mechanic, it does cause problems. I don't think I would love updating my Armoured Company though...
It's pretty mind-boggling that these points were fixed back in 2019 and haven't been modified at all since based on playtester feedback. I just don't understand how something like that happens. People have been playing with these points for 7 months now at a minimum and every one of them who has spoken up says there are obvious, huge problems with them...and yet GW has not made any changes at all in that time.
It's difficult to square that with TT insisting in the very same breath that "GW really cares about creating a good game, they really do, we're not making it up, they are super open to our feedback." Except when it comes to the points, apparently.
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where they mention they were actually playtesting new codex makes me sure Chaos is in there.
Chef is a massive necrons player too and he was heavily involved so I imagine Necrons are coming too.
Good video that btw. They are very open about how the new points are not good, but they are adamant that future is bright, they just can't tell how long people may have to wait. Very open and honest about what is bad and what is good
edit: ninja'd!! lol
If this was like, some free balance patch or somethinh thatd be one thing but gw wants to charge me like 100 bucks for an update that makes the game less balanced and less fun for me...and I should accept that because later on I'll have the "privilege" of buying ANOTHER 40 dollar book that will honest and for realsies fix it this time (not like ladt time when your GSC played in the index for nearly a year and a half and you had to pretend you were cool with people beating you with crazy stratagems and subfaction traits and relics that you literally got nothing to compensate for)
Really? Pay 100$ for the gift of us making your hobby shittier so that tou can pay us 40$ later to fix it?
feth that. It takes more negotiation and discussion of personal limits and preferences to get a mutually enjoyable game of 40k going than it does to arrange activities that involve bodily penetration.
First of all that last statement is going on the wall XD well said. Secondly updates to make chaos more playable could be typical bandaid patches like another campaign supplement...
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Ice_can wrote: I appreciate them puuting that out.
Not impressed at idiots sending them emaila about WTF playtesters suck.
But it's a bad sign when your playtesters do a better PR Job of managing the disaster you call a balance update than the company with a PR department.
The company's PR department is using influencers as a tool to manage the PR. People like TT (both of them), and other batrep websites, are part of the system. I guarentee there's a number of people in GW's marketing whose entire focus on managing influencers.
The argument of "yeah everything is horrific now, but it's gonna be good someday(tm)!" is abject lunacy. GW created this problem for themselves by half assing the rollout of 9th (relatively solid cadre of core rules, abject gak on individual unit balance, compounded by completely moronic points changes), and now they're putting out the word to everyone to just hope it gets better in a nebulously indeterminate amount of time?
No thank you.
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I’ve seen a few articles on Warcom & in white dwarf showcasing people’s own personal armies, often times they will base their vehicles. I don’t think it’s going to be a rule.
I’ve seen a few articles on Warcom & in white dwarf showcasing people’s own personal armies, often times they will base their vehicles. I don’t think it’s going to be a rule.
there is no rule for bases at all, you are supposed to use the bases that are in the box with the models, but there is no rule that say that you must use bases, just rules how to handle models that have none
GW just needs to at bases to the tank models in the box
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
GW has been highly inconsistent with vehicle basing and basing in general, especially since 8th edition when special characters got all kinds of base sizes (with different base sizes for the same character even - Lord of Contagion), I doubt they'll do any ruling for bases, they could have put it into 9th Edition rules but didn't. And I hope it stays that way. Even if they changed it I wouldn't care though. All of my pre 8th Edition Plague Marines are still on 25 mm bases, I hate basing and would never rebase anything.
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