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Matrindur wrote:
 Drakheart wrote:


Just received this e-mail form GW:




A £5 voucher for use on the Games Workshop website will be arriving in your inbox next week.




Looks like they didn't make enough freebies to go with all the pre-orders, although i will probably find the voucher more useful.



Personally I think those coins are worth more than £5 so just a £5 voucher for a mistake they made isn't enough I think


They had big disclaimers on it, like the actual worth was 0 and while supplies last. Getting a voucher for nothing (that had fair warning) more than makes up for a throwaway bonus tchotchke.

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Austria

I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive gak storm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

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Not Online!!! wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Asmodai wrote:
The app requires to sign-in through an HTML page everytime you load up. Firing it up on the tablet I have for referencing rules, I just get the Chrome dinosaur page when I try to access it with wifi off.

The Chrome dinosaur game does work from within the 40K app though.

Which makes it useless anywhere you can't get a good internet connection. Brilliant design. Great for us hillbillies.


god forbid rural people want to play a match at someones home but that person don't do wifi


I just turned off all data and wifi on my phone.
Closed app

Opened app, and opened up datasheets on a codex I had not opened before with no issues.

Search function also worked.
   
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ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
@Drakheart: I like that they think an evening dispatch may get to you by Saturday, I live in Coventry about 40 odd miles from Nottingham and would not put any money on it reaching me by Saturday if it leaves them this evening.

Glad that you are not perturbed by the voucher offer, think I would prefer that too. It seems like a fair way to deal with the allocation oversight.
My pre-order of Engine War was dispatched on Friday of release, and got to me in Coventry on the Tuesday, I think.

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 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive gak storm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.

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 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive gak storm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

Its inbuilt into the nerd community at this point to accepting half finished products. Look at videos games. Pay $60 and eventually in a year or two you will get the game you paid for is a standard business model.

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 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive gak storm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"


As someone who has excused a lot of GW stuff in the past I can only say this: The app is not worth the money and was most likely put together by an intern using off the shelf solutions. Then a marketing guy saw it and heard a "ka-ching!" sound in the back of their mind.

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Biloxi, MS USA

 Arbitrator wrote:
 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive gak storm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.


You mean like when Warroom would put a massive strain on your phone's battery and players were still clamoring for it to be made mandatory at events, even with events stipulating you auto-lost if your device died during a game? Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2020/07/24 18:02:15


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Doohicky wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Gadzilla666 wrote:
 Asmodai wrote:
The app requires to sign-in through an HTML page everytime you load up. Firing it up on the tablet I have for referencing rules, I just get the Chrome dinosaur page when I try to access it with wifi off.

The Chrome dinosaur game does work from within the 40K app though.

Which makes it useless anywhere you can't get a good internet connection. Brilliant design. Great for us hillbillies.


god forbid rural people want to play a match at someones home but that person don't do wifi


I just turned off all data and wifi on my phone.
Closed app

Opened app, and opened up datasheets on a codex I had not opened before with no issues.

Search function also worked.


Just opened it off with wifi off and it opened a page saying "Sign in or Register" (I had previously signed in). Unable to proceed any further without data.

(Maybe staying signed in is a subscriber-only feature - I'm using the free version.)

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 Platuan4th wrote:
Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.


No, but it's the thing GW is best at (besides making very good miniatures).

On topic, the app is clunky junk. If Battlescribe was listed on the stock market it would have gone up by 15% today.
   
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No idea then hahah. I am never asked to sign in or registar except the first time in.

Is your phone perhaps set to not cache automatically on apps?

Edit: Just saw your edit, you could be on to something there

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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks






your mind

if they make this app well, then it will create a much diminished need to pirate pdfs.

the app idea is smart bizniz, if it is a good product.

There is value in usage data from such an app, too.

-most searched for unit, or term.

-most popular passages, or pages.

-with a forum, it should tell them which units or rules changes are most associated with negative terms...


   
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Biloxi, MS USA

Turned off wi-fi and data, no sign-in required, have sub. Yeah, having the sub probably keeps you signed in.

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You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
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your mind

 Platuan4th wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive shitstorm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.


You mean like when Warroom would put a massive strain on your phone's battery and players were still clamoring for it to be made mandatory at events, even with events stipulating you auto-lost if your device died during a game? Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.


Reading this reminded me of this:


   
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Austria

 Platuan4th wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive shitstorm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.

You mean like when Warroom would put a massive strain on your phone's battery and players were still clamoring for it to be made mandatory at events, even with events stipulating you auto-lost if your device died during a game? Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.

Warroom was never a thing among the WM/H community here is still is treated as nice to have and not more

while I remember people going bonkers because the X-Wing App did not work perfect on release day

Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise 
   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 kodos wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive shitstorm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.

You mean like when Warroom would put a massive strain on your phone's battery and players were still clamoring for it to be made mandatory at events, even with events stipulating you auto-lost if your device died during a game? Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.

Warroom was never a thing among the WM/H community here is still is treated as nice to have and not morey


You were definitely not on the official forums, then.

You know you're really doing something when you can make strangers hate you over the Internet. - Mauleed
Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
Hallowed is the All Pie
The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
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United States

 ElAntiguoGuardián wrote:
Anyone knows when the new primaris will be available for the DW?

Greetings


Deathwatch Codex is rumored for later in the fall, soon after the edition. So you won't have to wait too long.
   
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Biloxi, MS USA

 ElAntiguoGuardián wrote:
Anyone knows when the new primaris will be available for the DW?

Greetings


The Vanguard stuff or the Indomitus stuff? The Indomitus models are already allowed via the Indomitus booklet FAQ on Warhammer Community.

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Just remember folks. Panic. Panic all the time. It's the only way to survive, other than just being mindful, of course-but geez, that's so friggin' boring. - Aegis Grimm
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The Before Times: A Place That Celebrates The World That Was 
   
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Mississippi

 kodos wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Arbitrator wrote:
 kodos wrote:
I am still surprised how forgiving the GW community is

any other company would have already faced a massive shitstorm to provide such an app for free

yet GW let people pay for it and "it is ok for now, might be improved later"

The fanatical loyalty people have to the GW brand is often cult-like. I don't know if it's pure Sunk Cost Fallacy in action or some kind of financial fetishism at work. The app could literally break your phone and people would still defend them for it, it's absurd.

You mean like when Warroom would put a massive strain on your phone's battery and players were still clamoring for it to be made mandatory at events, even with events stipulating you auto-lost if your device died during a game? Fanatical Brand Loyalty is not a uniquely GW thing.

Warroom was never a thing among the WM/H community here is still is treated as nice to have and not more

while I remember people going bonkers because the X-Wing App did not work perfect on release day


Ugh, the Star Wars app. I STILL hate that thing, but since the cards no longer have the add-on symbols or points cost...gotta get it somehow. :(

It never ends well 
   
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 Stormonu wrote:


Ugh, the Star Wars app. I STILL hate that thing, but since the cards no longer have the add-on symbols or points cost...gotta get it somehow. :(


Launchbay Next is what everyone around here uses for X-Wing. Vastly superior to the official app, which is now being replaced at some point.

I think the reason we're not seeing quite as much backlash against the 40k app is because it's had a low-key release and also expectations were very low after the announcement of its features. So far it looks like a textbook example of something built by the lowest bidder in the shortest space of time possible.
   
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UK

Doohicky wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Any idea what they meant by "very soon" this app will be available for apple iOS?

Is it like days or the the famed Blizzard's Soon™ spiel?


iOS users, it’s arriving in the next day or so…


So assume tomorrow, monday at latest


they've probably submitted it to apple, but whether they'll got fast or slow on vetting you never can tell (according to folk I know who do app development)

 
   
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Austria

Slipspace wrote:

I think the reason we're not seeing quite as much backlash against the 40k app is because it's had a low-key release and also expectations were very low after the announcement of its features. So far it looks like a textbook example of something built by the lowest bidder in the shortest space of time possible.

this is a possibility, people just don't care or a not interested enough as Battlescribe is still there and doing a better job

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Slipspace wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:


Ugh, the Star Wars app. I STILL hate that thing, but since the cards no longer have the add-on symbols or points cost...gotta get it somehow. :(


Launchbay Next is what everyone around here uses for X-Wing. Vastly superior to the official app, which is now being replaced at some point.

I think the reason we're not seeing quite as much backlash against the 40k app is because it's had a low-key release and also expectations were very low after the announcement of its features. So far it looks like a textbook example of something built by the lowest bidder in the shortest space of time possible.


Also because atm pretty much everything of sense is behind paywall. I for example won't have any use of it before necron codex comes(if you can read bought codex's stuff via app without subscription) or once army building feature comes at which point I'll try it.

ATM it's hard for me to critique it since all it is basically is pdf of main rules that I can use app for! It's such a neutral thing I find it hard to be either excited or annoyed.

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Not getting my box now, it seems. My store mailed me that blabla they ordered enough and they just didn't get enough copies in this shipment and they will totally get delivered more/the rest...at some point in time I was #10 out of 15 sets, the Friday before preorders. I hope they give a definite statement before the M2O window closes.I won't care too much if I can get it at all, be it in a week or three montha.

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Funny typoes in app it seems. Eldar has weapon that has range of 122(writer forgot to press shift so it's 122 range...but with what scale? inches? mm? micro meter?-) ). Death jester has meanwhile weapon that has S 65! Well people have been complaining S/T scales aren't used enough

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Super obvious this thing was hugely behind schedule, not remotely ready for prime time, but they pushed it out anyway in order to start collecting monthly fees from people.

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Honestly, this looks exactly like a software you order from a contractor these days. If you specify that stratagems should be sorted alphabetically, you get them that way - and not divided by army, because the contractor doesn't get paid for extra work, only for what you specify

But it's funny how everyone disagreed when I speculated that their app would look exactly as it does now

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Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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The release is tomorrow right?
   
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Germany, Frankfurt area

And it doesn't have PL

 
   
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Austria

tneva82 wrote:
Funny typoes in app it seems. Eldar has weapon that has range of 122(writer forgot to press shift so it's 122 range...but with what scale? inches? mm? micro meter?-) ). Death jester has meanwhile weapon that has S 65! Well people have been complaining S/T scales aren't used enough


but this is the official App, the one main advantage over BS is that there are no mistakes and everything is true

so those are not typos, everything else is wrong /s

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