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2020/05/26 18:11:58
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
Here are some more tidbits about 9th, courtsey of Emiraca
Those are my notes
Some news from the twitch streaming:
Everybody hits on 6´s
Capped modifiers
Capped CP (everybody has the same amount)
Veichles and monsters can fight second floors as Titatic
Monsters can shoot in CC as tanks
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also
Terrain block LOS (obscuring is gonna be a thing: terrain have a footprint)
Mininum terrain amount implemented.
NO alternate activation.
1 CP for having units in DS.
They can come from different from different table edges as the game progresses.
Overwatch is gonna change (helping CC armies)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Goonhammer transcript:
Tauris_Blazestar wrote: One thing I've noticed is the regalia around the necks of the new Overlord/Lord characters is very similar to what was on the original 1993 Necrons.
The 'collar' does match those on the old metal Necron Warriors but the Skorpekh Lord has the Ankh of the Triach on his chest, so a bit of the old and a bit of the new..
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/05/26 22:21:15
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Tauris_Blazestar wrote: One thing I've noticed is the regalia around the necks of the new Overlord/Lord characters is very similar to what was on the original 1993 Necrons.
The 'collar' does match those on the old metal Necron Warriors but the Skorpekh Lord has the Ankh of the Triach on his chest, so a bit of the old and a bit of the new..
"The Ankh of the Triarch" isn't new. That was a motif present in third ed, and you can see an cruder iteration of it on that 2nd ed warrior. It only became associated with the Triarch in 5th ed after they retconned the necrons to be more dynastic.
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2020/05/26 22:26:59
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Sasori wrote: Here are some more tidbits about 9th, courtsey of Emiraca
Those are my notes
Some news from the twitch streaming:
Everybody hits on 6´s
Capped modifiers
Capped CP (everybody has the same amount)
Veichles and monsters can fight second floors as Titatic
Monsters can shoot in CC as tanks
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also
Terrain block LOS (obscuring is gonna be a thing: terrain have a footprint)
Mininum terrain amount implemented.
NO alternate activation.
1 CP for having units in DS.
They can come from different from different table edges as the game progresses.
Overwatch is gonna change (helping CC armies)
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Goonhammer transcript:
Lord I hope that first one is not correct
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2020/05/26 22:28:41
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
It's 'new' compared to the 'collar'. Also note that it wasn't the 'Ankh of the Triarch' until 5th edition. Before that it was just meaningless decorarion on the Necron models.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/05/26 23:00:12
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Btw, I think the floaty half dude with the two servants is a technomandrite, aka super cryptek. It's odd they are working with the silent king, because he and the other two rulers of the triarch betrayed them, but I guess let bygones be bygones.
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2020/05/26 23:38:52
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
In the fluff weren't the triarch like the special forces of the silent king? I wonder if they will benefit from just his dynastic code or hopefully they will be able to use everyone's. I mean fluff wise it doesnt make sense but it would make them a hell of a lot more useful
2020/05/26 23:45:01
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
In the fluff weren't the triarch like the special forces of the silent king? I wonder if they will benefit from just his dynastic code or hopefully they will be able to use everyone's. I mean fluff wise it doesnt make sense but it would make them a hell of a lot more useful
No, not really. From page 55 of Codex Necrons:
In the Necron dynasties, the Praetorians held the responsibility of maintaining the Triarch’s rule, to ensure that wars and politics alike were pursued according to ancient codes. As such, they acted outside the political structures, and held both the right and the means to enforce their will should a Lord, Overlord or even a phaeron’s behaviour contravene the edicts of old. However, the Triarch Praetorians also held a higher responsibility: to ensure that the Necron dynasties never fell, that their codes of law and order did not vanish into the darkness.
So the Praetorians are loyal to the ruling council of the Necrontyr (i.e., the Triarch) and not any particular dynasty. So while Szarekh may have the TRIARCH PRAETORIANS keyword, I seriously doubt the Praetorians will have the SZAREKHAN dynasty keyword.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/05/27 07:11:53
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
In the fluff weren't the triarch like the special forces of the silent king? I wonder if they will benefit from just his dynastic code or hopefully they will be able to use everyone's. I mean fluff wise it doesnt make sense but it would make them a hell of a lot more useful
No, not really. From page 55 of Codex Necrons:
In the Necron dynasties, the Praetorians held the responsibility of maintaining the Triarch’s rule, to ensure that wars and politics alike were pursued according to ancient codes. As such, they acted outside the political structures, and held both the right and the means to enforce their will should a Lord, Overlord or even a phaeron’s behaviour contravene the edicts of old. However, the Triarch Praetorians also held a higher responsibility: to ensure that the Necron dynasties never fell, that their codes of law and order did not vanish into the darkness.
So the Praetorians are loyal to the ruling council of the Necrontyr (i.e., the Triarch) and not any particular dynasty. So while Szarekh may have the TRIARCH PRAETORIANS keyword, I seriously doubt the Praetorians will have the SZAREKHAN dynasty keyword.
Oh I see fair enough, been while since I've read that part of the lore. We'll have to wait and see then as to how GW want to do the Triarch units
2020/05/27 08:08:47
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Grimgold wrote: Btw, I think the floaty half dude with the two servants is a technomandrite, aka super cryptek. It's odd they are working with the silent king, because he and the other two rulers of the triarch betrayed them, but I guess let bygones be bygones.
If/when the SIlent King comes back who or what should be his first objective? Since you know he was able to kill Gods or atleast make them work for him unlike a certain so called Emperor?
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
Isn't that color scheme the Ogdobekh dynasty? Its pictured in the current codex (p27)
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2020/05/27 15:12:25
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/05/27 15:13:36
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Aza'Gorod wrote: My guess is the new Scorpekh destroyers and Lords and a new dynasty (hopefully you wont have to play that dynasty to use them) and we will still have the old destroyers in a dual kit as people have already said
The Dynasty that the Silent King hails from is very likely the new bronze color scheme we have seen.
I am hoping they don't lock units behind dynasties. That would be incredibly stupid. It would also be nice if Triarch units can benefit from Dynasty codes now as well.
Isn't that color scheme the Ogdobekh dynasty? Its pictured in the current codex (p27)
It does look similar. This may just be them taking an old scheme with some tweaks to be the new featured one, for a new dynasty. I can't imagine they are going to go with a minor dynasty for their new standard scheme.
EDIT: Looks like Ghaz covered it better, they are different.
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It is. They were adamant about that. Natural 6s are always a hit.
Ok, that isnt an issue.
For some reason I read that as everyone essentially has BS6
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2020/05/27 17:45:08
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
CKO wrote: If/when the SIlent King comes back who or what should be his first objective? Since you know he was able to kill Gods or atleast make them work for him unlike a certain so called Emperor?
My understand is they are basically combining the first great works plan with their current objective. They want to shut off t he warp completely, which will kill everything with a soul, and then use all the flesh from the bodies to reverse the bio-transference.
I am 90% sure that is a silent king/triarch model on the page. The big platform with steps that has a overlord like guy on the stairs, 2 more overlord like guys on his right and left in lil alcoves, and a c'tan being torn apart above him. They showed images of bits of that with a tag line that said something about "things are about to get silent" or some such.
The silent king is here. That model is him.
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2020/05/28 00:47:21
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Lance845 wrote: I am 90% sure that is a silent king/triarch model on the page. The big platform with steps that has a overlord like guy on the stairs, 2 more overlord like guys on his right and left in lil alcoves, and a c'tan being torn apart above him. They showed images of bits of that with a tag line that said something about "things are about to get silent" or some such.
The silent king is here. That model is him.
Yeah, another hint is that the red symbol on the C'tan's chest is the same as the image of the C'tan the Silent King reaches out to communicate with in the stylized trailer.
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2020/05/28 02:22:03
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
So, one thing I'm wondering is if Skorpekh is just the fancy new name for the Melee Destroyers, or if it's the name of the Silent King's dynasty as well.
From the 'Last of the Silent Kings' article in the January 2020 White Dwarf:
The Silent King took his ship, a vast sepulchral engine, black as night and as massive as a planetoid, and set out into the depths of the intergalactic void. Perhaps out there, a measure of solace or penance could be found. With him went legions of his own Szarekhan Dynasty, entombed in stasis-crypts like their kin.
'Skorpekh' would appear to be the name of the unit and has nothing to do with the Silent King's dynasty.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2020/05/28 06:55:36
Subject: Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
punisher357 wrote: Did anyone notice that the silent king and his magic staircase has its own base, while the two "shields" are on their own bases?
All this anticipation is driving me insane lol
Yeah I've seen quite a few people noticing that. I wonder if maybe it's just for aesthetics or maybe they'll function like say tau drones so they can intercept shots and need to be destroyed first
2020/05/28 13:18:09
Subject: Re:Necron 9th edition general discussion thread.
Ghaz wrote: From the 'Last of the Silent Kings' article in the January 2020 White Dwarf:
The Silent King took his ship, a vast sepulchral engine, black as night and as massive as a planetoid, and set out into the depths of the intergalactic void. Perhaps out there, a measure of solace or penance could be found. With him went legions of his own Szarekhan Dynasty, entombed in stasis-crypts like their kin.
'Skorpekh' would appear to be the name of the unit and has nothing to do with the Silent King's dynasty.
I hope that's not the final name, and just saying his dynasty by using his name. If it is, it's pretty lame.
Ghaz wrote: From the 'Last of the Silent Kings' article in the January 2020 White Dwarf:
The Silent King took his ship, a vast sepulchral engine, black as night and as massive as a planetoid, and set out into the depths of the intergalactic void. Perhaps out there, a measure of solace or penance could be found. With him went legions of his own Szarekhan Dynasty, entombed in stasis-crypts like their kin.
'Skorpekh' would appear to be the name of the unit and has nothing to do with the Silent King's dynasty.
I hope that's not the final name, and just saying his dynasty by using his name. If it is, it's pretty lame.
It looks like he was named after the Szarekhan Dynasty and not the other way around.
... and by the time of Szarekh’s ascension to the throne he was merely the most recent in a long line of Silent Kings drawn from his own Szarekhan Dynasty.
Regardless, it is in print in White Dwarf so I would assume that won't be retconned.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim