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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 11:25:19
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I do think it looks silly/lacking imagination on the infantry but the ships look cool!
ALSO Freaking heck look - CLEAN no details on the edges where the mould will join so you can actually clean a ship of mould lines without it taking half a day!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2024/06/10 11:25:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 11:45:16
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Overread wrote:I do think it looks silly/lacking imagination on the infantry but the ships look cool!
ALSO Freaking heck look - CLEAN no details on the edges where the mould will join so you can actually clean a ship of mould lines without it taking half a day!
Totally agree on the infantry here!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 13:32:22
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Drew_Riggio
Austin, TX
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Conversely, there's some visible vent scars on the top edges that are really distracting. Especially the 2nd pic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 13:39:54
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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slyphic wrote:Conversely, there's some visible vent scars on the top edges that are really distracting. Especially the 2nd pic
When I was at Salute earlier this year I did swing by their stall and one thing that stopped me buying anything was seeing the huge resin gates they had on one of their convention exclusive ships. Just utterly huge compared to the model and made me question why the heck they have such thick gates on resin parts.
And you are right I can't un-see them now, but at least they should be the kind of thing that can be easily cleaned away. Honestly surprised they missed them on the model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/10 13:59:22
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Drew_Riggio
Austin, TX
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TTC resin is a gamble between pretty good and unsalvageable. This looks like someone just used a dull set of nippers on a standard plastic sprue piece, so the vent squeezed puckered and tore instead of cut clean. Should be trivial to get right.
FFS TTC, do the basic hobby work correctly for a display piece.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 18:28:26
Subject: Re:Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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TTCombat wrote:Some people have messaged us wondering about the size of Striketeam miniatures compared to our other 28-32mm tabletop games. We hope this UCM Legionnaire gives you a better idea.
Follow the Kickstarter here: https://kck.st/3ymRS6v
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 22:17:44
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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This is a terrible scale image. Makes it look like everything is just under 4cm, as that is the only unit marked and we have to eyeball while scrolling since there aren’t horizontal lines behind the minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/11 22:22:22
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Foxy Wildborne
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That is an image.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/12 13:23:16
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Doing a slapdash job on word measures the strike team trooper at 37mm tall.
Don’t think I want all the human sized infantry to be the same as primaris marines 🤷♂️
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/12 13:46:16
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Haughty Harad Serpent Rider
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Sweet, so 1/48 scale. This makes me a lot more interested as I'm a big fan of the sizing of MCP and the newer AoS models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/06/12 17:14:48
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Drew_Riggio
Austin, TX
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They used two humans and a dwarf for a scale comparison. One unmarked line on the side.
Renders as well, so you can't actually tell if there's PoV or zoom problems.
I don't know that I could intentionally make a worse graphic. Kudos TTC, you continue to plumb new depths of incompetency.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/07/05 16:12:24
Subject: Re:Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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A NEW THREAT RISES
For some time, the PHR knew of listening stations buried and dimensionally cloaked within worlds where worthy adversaries might evolve. Through the wars of the Reconquest, a primary PHR objective has been silencing these beacons. They chose the Tlalocan Moons as a forward base because it may have been within the Bioficer’s origin region and had much to investigate and disable. They slowed the Bioficer’s interests, but insufficiently. The wars were too loud.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/07/12 16:54:55
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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Anyone else think that, so far at least, the new faction seems too close in concept to the scourge?
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Kain wrote:Hope feeds Tzeentch, who will do horrible things to your planet to reward you for your service. Ergo, Hope is evil, and you should stop having it, but you can't have despair because then Nurgle gets a free ride. You could be angry about this, but that'd just get Khorne's jollies off. And heck you can't even get your own jollies off without Slaanesh giggling and farting out some daemons. And if you manage to avoid all that, some genestealers might infiltrate your planet and bring a hive fleet crashing down on you any way. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/07/12 17:16:35
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Drew_Riggio
Austin, TX
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There's certainly more overlap there than with the other factions, but it's not just Scourge. Shaltari venerate warfare as pastime, as do the Bioficers. PHR are already a faction of AIs commanding meat puppets (just the meat puppets are in denial).
I kinda don't buy the argument presented so far that they have any reason to make humanoid drones. But I'm withholding judgement til I get to read what Dave has actually written. TTC does an abysmal job of summarizing and selling his work.
I also can't get over the narrator pronouncing their faction "bio fie-sirs" in that last video. Real FrOderick Fronk-in-shteen feel to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/02 16:18:05
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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WARNING
GOODBYE DROPFLEET COMMANDER!
-FOR NOW
Dropfleet Commander is coming off sale. As we prepare to release the latest edition we have to say goodbye to ALL Dropfleet items from our website.
Whilst some products may become available in a new format, others will not return.
This will all come into effect August 9th with no products being added until 2.0's release later this year.
Just posted on facebook. So if you were planning to get any of the existing items and you really, really dont want to miss them buy now just in case
(i'm guessing the plastics won't change, and the resins will be more at risk but you can never be 100% sure)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/02 16:26:36
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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I hate when firms go "some things will go some will return" with no clear message which is which....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/02 17:41:16
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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it's annoying I agree especially if you kind of want some stuff but really want to spend the money elsewhere (or don't really have it)
but then again if they said X is going it would instantly jump to sold out, with at least some going to re-sellers so this way it's more likely that those that really want something specific will end up with it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/02 17:49:33
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Eh I think their marketing is low enough that resellers probably don't care about them all that much.
This isn't like GW.
That said honestly I'm out - I'll wait for the new faction to be added as they might be ok to build; but Scourge and Shaltari are the ones that catch my eye the most but the way they've done so many ridges/dots/stufff right on the mould line just drives me crazy trying to clean any of the models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/03 17:11:36
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Plastic Ships incoming, new Striketeam
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Overread wrote:I hate when firms go "some things will go some will return" with no clear message which is which....
We’ve seen plastic sprues for the UCM destroyers, monitors and corvettes, so those types of ships will likely all be back. Other than that, I’d expect the resins that aren’t getting transferred and aren’t selling will likely go. Maybe some of the battlecruiser and battleship variants?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/03 17:34:56
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Perhaps - my worry would be stuff like the really big dreadnought ships, though I'd hope they'd stick around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/03 18:54:56
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Overread wrote:Perhaps - my worry would be stuff like the really big dreadnought ships, though I'd hope they'd stick around.
I can’t help but wonder how they sell. While the Scourge Dreadnaught is awesome and the Resistance Dreadnaught is a work of brilliance, the rest are kind of fugly for their prices. The UCM dreadnaught, for example, only looks passable when it has been cut into two hulls. The less said about the PHR dreadnaught, the better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/03 19:34:26
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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I think they don't sell as well as they should - same for the behemoths for DZC - heck it shocks me that some are 2 years old now and yet they hardly appear anywhere online when you search for them as models.
I think they are more a symptom of the games not growing as they should and remaining with a really niche market whilst the parent firm hasn't pushed them out enough in the right way.
Some - like the Shaltari behemoth - are clearly pretty darn awesome models in their own right and the Scourge one I saw at Salute really did justify the high price tag when you saw the size of it. But I don't think the firm behind them are really helping themsleves in that regard.
But that's something we've said before about the management of the games and the abnormal lack of growth they've had when (until GW stepped back into the market recently and with Armoured Core around the corner with Warcradle); for small scale sci-fi ground and space almost entirely to themselves. DFC in particular should be soaring considering its only viable competition right now are garage firms doing mostly metal models and trading mostly at shows/conventions and so forth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 11:41:24
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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Sadly TTCombat have mismanaged the game from start to finish on this, I hope second edition is able give it a bit of a boost
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 12:42:20
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Yeah with Dropfleet there's also been this lack of marketing or direction on just having straight fleet fights in space. I know the whole dropship thing is a big mechanic; but leaving the whole "open space" battlefield market empty and ignored when you're the only serious large-scale spaceship game in the market - it just screams of them missing money and opportunities.
That's one thing I hope comes with the 2nd edition; by all means keep the dropship elements and mission packs; terrain and all that fun stuff. It's iconic to the game and setting; but build in some big exposure on just straight up fleet fights. It's what many people want to see and serving that interest just creates more options to get people into the game and then playing the drop-aspect missions and game too.
They've already relented on the whole "no more factions" angle and I think that's a sensible move a they were starting to get rather full fleets per faction.
It's strange because they clearly have enough sales to invest into a lot of models, but the game just doesn't seem to expand far. I also hope more plastics and more investment might well resolve some of the casting issues - not just in quality of cast but in selection of gates; quality of the mould design and such.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 15:29:02
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I always picture a mainstream space battle enthusiast buying the box with a big smile on his face, then reading the rules and realizing he’ll have to build 1/4 to 1/3 of his fleet as joyless token droppers and gradually losing that smile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 16:01:42
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Yes, as someone who actually likes dropfleet that aspect of the game has always felt unsatisfying and like I've been bait and switched. There's an interesting underlying concept there but the execution leaves much to be desired.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 16:17:11
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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I think its a fantastic idea too; but where are the buildings, cities, defensive turrets and so forth to represent all those ground elements? There's a few, but you look at faction specific stuff - its all spaceships and a few space stations.
There should be a terrain and troop pack for each faction so they can model represent their ground assets and so forth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/05 16:39:00
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Overread wrote:I think its a fantastic idea too; but where are the buildings, cities, defensive turrets and so forth to represent all those ground elements? There's a few, but you look at faction specific stuff - its all spaceships and a few space stations.
There should be a terrain and troop pack for each faction so they can model represent their ground assets and so forth.
I never thought about it this way. If TTCombat had gone all-in on drop, with minis instead of tokens to represent the clusters, defenses, dropped assets and dropships, I feel like my reaction would have been far more favorable. Instead we got a half-measure that doesn’t work for most miniature gamers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/06 00:53:03
Subject: Re:Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/08/06 05:13:32
Subject: Dropfleet / Dropzone Commander news and rumors. New Edition inbound with New Plastics, some resins v
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Yes, but for every faction and ideally easier or cheaper to acquire. Also, do they make flightstands of dropships and bulk landers, or stands of APCs and tanks for troops and armor? I know they make UCM fighters, bombers and torpedoes, but nothing else so far.
I guess I’m back in the “cut the drop stuff for being tedious and boring” camp.
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