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2020/06/16 22:15:54
Subject: When will GW finally separate the marine dex?
The poster you responded to didn’t say anything about old marines being scaled better, just that he liked them better - exactly what you just said was okay. Your response to him also didn’t say anything about them being objectively more realistic - just that they objectively look better.
And if it was even still in question, you then go on to make it clear that you believe someone can’t actually think old marines are better, and that the only reason to say such a thing would be because you hate “everything new”.
Try to keep up with your own nonsense a bit better. You do not understand what the word objective means.
2020/06/16 22:23:26
Subject: When will GW finally separate the marine dex?
Insectum7 wrote: Split the Codex, slowly drop support for Primaris. Rescale classic marines with new kits to CSM size.
Except Primaris look objectively better than the rescaled stuff. Also the statline makes more sense.
I love the way you use the word “objectively” like a person who has absolutely no idea what it means. It doesn’t just “add extra emphasis” to your entirely subjective opinion FYI.
Well it isn't really subjective to say Primaris are more realistic in scale to other models, more evenly proportioned, etc. You can LIKE Manlet Marines more because you refuse to look at anything new, but let's not pretend the models are better than Primaris.
But also "objectively", bigger models make the table look smaller, and make terrain features like buildings less realistically scaled, or ranges on guns more ridiculously short.
Uh if anything the upscale Primaris make more sense for buildings on the field being smaller for them, soooooooooo I don't think you're making a good point, if at all.
Also if you think Primaris make the battlefield look "smaller" wait until you see Terminators or Meganobz! THOSE make the battlefield super small. Or Centurions or Imperial Knights. Amd any army using 3+ Land Raiders.
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Nitro Zeus wrote: The poster you responded to didn’t say anything about old marines being scaled better, just that he liked them better - exactly what you just said was okay. Your response to him also didn’t say anything about them being objectively more realistic - just that they objectively look better.
And if it was even still in question, you then go on to make it clear that you believe someone can’t actually think old marines are better, and that the only reason to say such a thing would be because you hate “everything new”.
Try to keep up with your own nonsense a bit better. You do not understand what the word objective means.
Except it is people hating everything new. Remember how the last Tactical kit made the last iteration of Marines look silly?
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CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2020/06/16 22:39:06
Subject: When will GW finally separate the marine dex?
Insectum7 wrote: Split the Codex, slowly drop support for Primaris. Rescale classic marines with new kits to CSM size.
Except Primaris look objectively better than the rescaled stuff. Also the statline makes more sense.
I love the way you use the word “objectively” like a person who has absolutely no idea what it means. It doesn’t just “add extra emphasis” to your entirely subjective opinion FYI.
Well it isn't really subjective to say Primaris are more realistic in scale to other models, more evenly proportioned, etc. You can LIKE Manlet Marines more because you refuse to look at anything new, but let's not pretend the models are better than Primaris.
But also "objectively", bigger models make the table look smaller, and make terrain features like buildings less realistically scaled, or ranges on guns more ridiculously short.
Uh if anything the upscale Primaris make more sense for buildings on the field being smaller for them, soooooooooo I don't think you're making a good point, if at all.
Also if you think Primaris make the battlefield look "smaller" wait until you see Terminators or Meganobz! THOSE make the battlefield super small. Or Centurions or Imperial Knights. Amd any army using 3+ Land Raiders.
A: So you agree with me that they're adding an already existing problem then. Well that's nice.
B: Depends on how big you want your "massive cathedral ruin" to look. 50 feet wide?
C: How common are Terminators and Meganobz in comparison to Primaris? See many of those on the tabletop recently?
D: Depends on which Terminators you're using. I prefer the 2nd Ed metals.
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote: Except it is people hating everything new. Remember how the last Tactical kit made the last iteration of Marines look silly?
A: No
B: Nobody hated on the new kit, either.
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Nitro Zeus wrote: The poster you responded to didn’t say anything about old marines being scaled better, just that he liked them better - exactly what you just said was okay. Your response to him also didn’t say anything about them being objectively more realistic - just that they objectively look better.
And if it was even still in question, you then go on to make it clear that you believe someone can’t actually think old marines are better, and that the only reason to say such a thing would be because you hate “everything new”.
Try to keep up with your own nonsense a bit better. You do not understand what the word objective means.
Except it is people hating everything new. Remember how the last Tactical kit made the last iteration of Marines look silly?
Lmao so you DO think that it's objectively wrong to prefer the firstborn aesthetic to the primaris. Why did you bother doing all that pretending otherwise then?
No, I don't remember anyone hating the last tactical kit, that is definitely something you invented. No, it isn't just us "hating everything new". I love almost everything new. Even similarly armored units to get updates, like the new take on Sisters, the new High Elf faction for AoS ( ), the new Crons, new everything. To me, the Primaris aesthetic is chock a block full of tacticool garbage marketed at the lowest common denominator, the kneepads look like garbage, and I prefer the fanatical beauty of the old scaled Marines. This is a personal opinion, that many others share. You don't have to be one of them. Primaris aren't "objectively better", you're just illiterate to what that word means. The fact that someone can say "well I prefer the old ones" for ANY reason at all, means you're objectively wrong, and yes that is the correct use of the term.
Being so incapable of grasping the idea that people may prefer a different aesthetic to you, suggests there's something going on underneath all this though.
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2020/06/16 23:30:28
Subject: When will GW finally separate the marine dex?
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:Well it isn't really subjective to say Primaris are more realistic in scale to other models, more evenly proportioned, etc. You can LIKE Manlet Marines more because you refuse to look at anything new, but let's not pretend the models are better than Primaris.
It's absolutely subjective, and this is coming from someone who loves the Primaris.
People can prefer the older models without being "wrong". It's only "wrong" when they start saying how Primaris "totally change the aesthetic". You're allowed to dislike something even if it has the same aesthetic.
Insectum7 wrote:But also "objectively", bigger models make the table look smaller, and make terrain features like buildings less realistically scaled, or ranges on guns more ridiculously short.
Eh, Primaris look more suitable on most of the terrain than old Marines do, IMO. And really, the <1" height increase doesn't make the short gun ranges any worse than they already were. It's a negligible difference.
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2020/06/17 11:42:59
Subject: When will GW finally separate the marine dex?
But that is the one part which is literally the same between the primaris and the minimarines...
I actually do think that the shoulder plates don't look good, personally, BECAUSE they're the same. Primaris are quite a bit bigger than the Oldmarines, which makes their shoulderpads look smaller and I happen to like the oversized shoulder plates aesthetic.
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I prefer the 2nd Ed metals.
), the new Crons, new everything. To me, the Primaris aesthetic is chock a block full of tacticool garbage marketed at the lowest common denominator, the kneepads look like garbage, and I prefer the fanatical beauty of the old scaled Marines. This is a personal opinion, that many others share. You don't have to be one of them. Primaris aren't "objectively better", you're just illiterate to what that word means. The fact that someone can say "well I prefer the old ones" for ANY reason at all, means you're objectively wrong, and yes that is the correct use of the term.
