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2020/06/20 20:05:49
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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First up, I'm adding highlights/detailing to my old Night Goblin army, and (finally) painting a few extras I had lying around. And yes, all the models done so far are technically newer than 6th, but it's my preferred ruleset and what I'm building lists for.
Shaman (speedpainted from scratch for the Drunken Master thread in P&M):
Before and after on infantry:
Archers:
Lahmian VC (Aegean/Siren themed)
Skelebros:
"Bat" Swarms:
Next stages will be to finish the NG archer regiment (and some roight proppa archer trays), get that large mob of NG spearmen lurking behind them up to scratch, and building/painting a second unit of skeleton warriors.
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2020/06/21 10:07:06
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Very nice looking. Gibbons are excellent. Where are the skeletons from?
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2020/06/21 17:28:17
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Keeper of the Flame
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Man, those look fantastic
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www.classichammer.com
For 4-6th WFB, 2-5th 40k, and similar timeframe gaming
Looking for dice from the new AOS boxed set and Dark Imperium on the cheap. Let me know if you can help.
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2020/06/21 22:08:29
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Thanks boys.
The old Wargames Factory ones, now sold by Warlord Games.
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2020/06/22 02:43:42
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Ktulhut wrote:Thanks boys.
The old Wargames Factory ones, now sold by Warlord Games.
Cool, they look great.
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It's time to go full Skeletor |
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2020/06/22 03:08:31
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Walking Dead Wraithlord
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Excellent work sir! Brings back memories.
Thanks for sharing chief!
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2020/06/22 21:56:35
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Those skeletons, are looking good. Almost want to take a look at them close up and see if they are what I am ultimately looking for. Mantic and GW is what I was looking at a year or two ago and was frankly dissapointed with Mantic being that they were so small and flimsy.
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2020/06/22 22:50:20
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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TinyLegions wrote:Those skeletons, are looking good. Almost want to take a look at them close up and see if they are what I am ultimately looking for. Mantic and GW is what I was looking at a year or two ago and was frankly dissapointed with Mantic being that they were so small and flimsy.
The WGF skellies are super flimsy and come in annoying amount of components, the Mantic ones are as solid as oaks compared to them. I love the aesthetic so it's worth it for me, but if you didn't like the Mantic ones, you'll hate these. May I recommend the Wargames Atlantic ones? They look quite solid.
Also, just for fun, here's some pics (10am, 12pm, 2pm) that show just how fast skeletons paint up:
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2020/06/24 03:15:13
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Posts with Authority
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That is fast. Looking great, too.
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2020/06/24 09:50:58
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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2020/06/29 20:11:27
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Ktulhut wrote:TinyLegions wrote:Those skeletons, are looking good. Almost want to take a look at them close up and see if they are what I am ultimately looking for. Mantic and GW is what I was looking at a year or two ago and was frankly dissapointed with Mantic being that they were so small and flimsy.
The WGF skellies are super flimsy and come in annoying amount of components, the Mantic ones are as solid as oaks compared to them. I love the aesthetic so it's worth it for me, but if you didn't like the Mantic ones, you'll hate these. May I recommend the Wargames Atlantic ones? They look quite solid.
Thats unfortunate, but I will look up Wargames Atlantic.
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2020/06/29 21:31:05
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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TinyLegions wrote: Ktulhut wrote:TinyLegions wrote:Those skeletons, are looking good. Almost want to take a look at them close up and see if they are what I am ultimately looking for. Mantic and GW is what I was looking at a year or two ago and was frankly dissapointed with Mantic being that they were so small and flimsy.
The WGF skellies are super flimsy and come in annoying amount of components, the Mantic ones are as solid as oaks compared to them. I love the aesthetic so it's worth it for me, but if you didn't like the Mantic ones, you'll hate these. May I recommend the Wargames Atlantic ones? They look quite solid.
Thats unfortunate, but I will look up Wargames Atlantic.
Honestly, you may well have the same issue with any plastic skeletons, and metal of course means hyper-limited poses regardless of source. Do you have any experience in the past with plastic skeletons that were as solid as you want?
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2020/06/29 21:42:35
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Ktulhut wrote:TinyLegions wrote: Ktulhut wrote:TinyLegions wrote:Those skeletons, are looking good. Almost want to take a look at them close up and see if they are what I am ultimately looking for. Mantic and GW is what I was looking at a year or two ago and was frankly dissapointed with Mantic being that they were so small and flimsy.
The WGF skellies are super flimsy and come in annoying amount of components, the Mantic ones are as solid as oaks compared to them. I love the aesthetic so it's worth it for me, but if you didn't like the Mantic ones, you'll hate these. May I recommend the Wargames Atlantic ones? They look quite solid.
Thats unfortunate, but I will look up Wargames Atlantic.
Honestly, you may well have the same issue with any plastic skeletons, and metal of course means hyper-limited poses regardless of source. Do you have any experience in the past with plastic skeletons that were as solid as you want?
Honestly, the recent GW batch skellies is looking good to me. My only issue is the weapons, and of course the price. Weapons is something that I can work with however, as I can convert to a smaller spear head that fits the rest of my armies, which was the issue that I had with Mantic, but in the opposite direction. Not only were the Mantic spear shafts flimsy(or too bendable) in my estimation, but they were way too small for the rest of my miniatures, which is mostly GW, and soon to be Front Rank, BTD and others with actual staffs that wont like they will break.(This is also the reason why I sold my 6th edition beastmen)
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2020/06/30 19:48:32
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I have to tell you, the GW ones aren't any less flimsy (aside from the pairs of legs with robes), the spears especially bend/break in a mild breeze. I think it's symptomatic of plastic skeletons full stop, unfortunately.
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2020/07/02 19:31:38
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Ktulhut wrote:I have to tell you, the GW ones aren't any less flimsy (aside from the pairs of legs with robes), the spears especially bend/break in a mild breeze. I think it's symptomatic of plastic skeletons full stop, unfortunately.
I will admit that I am going off of what I have worked on so far, and GW seem sturdier than what I have from Mantic. On top of that the size is just as much of a consideration as well. I want to have generally the same spear shafts between armies. I know that I wont get an exact match, but we can try to get close.
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2020/07/02 21:36:38
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Are your older ones the "classic" GW ones (that tomb kings were stuck with for way too long)? Fireforge does separate weapon sprues that are a similar level of chunky.
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2020/07/03 15:53:03
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Ktulhut wrote:Are your older ones the "classic" GW ones (that tomb kings were stuck with for way too long)? Fireforge does separate weapon sprues that are a similar level of chunky.
I do like a lot of what Fireforge is coming out with, including their undead. I just looked at both GW and Mantic and you are correct in that they do tend to have the same substance on their spear shafts, and yeah both seem to have the same bendiness, damn it. I may have to go back to the drawing board on my skeleton units.
All kidding aside, thanks for showing this to me.
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2020/07/07 03:51:14
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Hungry Ghoul
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very nice
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Vampire Counts 12,000 pts Tomb Kings 5,000 pts
Skaven 9,500 pts Ogre Kingdoms 7,000 pts
High Elves 8,800 pts
Bretonnia 8,000 pts
Empire 7,500 pts Lizardmen 6,000 pts
Dwarfs 10,000 pts Chaos 18,500 pts
Wood Elves 10,000 pts Dark Elves 7,000 pts
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2020/07/07 23:07:21
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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2020/07/17 05:57:58
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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2020/07/20 11:21:33
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Posts with Authority
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Shaping up nicely! I'm liking the banners.
Only just noticed: why the gaps in the front ranks?
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2020/07/20 11:23:07
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Keeper of the Flame
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Vermis wrote:Shaping up nicely! I'm liking the banners.
Only just noticed: why the gaps in the front ranks?
I assume they are built around character bussing. My High Elves are built 19 Spearmen per regiment for that exact reason.
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www.classichammer.com
For 4-6th WFB, 2-5th 40k, and similar timeframe gaming
Looking for dice from the new AOS boxed set and Dark Imperium on the cheap. Let me know if you can help.
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2020/07/20 12:38:51
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Knight of the Inner Circle
Montreal, QC Canada
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Those Skellies are really super nice. I was wondering what they looked like in the flesh and they do look much better then many other options.
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2020/07/20 21:43:33
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Just Tony wrote: Vermis wrote:Shaping up nicely! I'm liking the banners.
Only just noticed: why the gaps in the front ranks?
I assume they are built around character bussing. My High Elves are built 19 Spearmen per regiment for that exact reason.
Bingo. Waiting on a parcel of severely under-dressed Hasslefree models to make it, at covid-world pace, down here so I can sculpt vaguely Egyptian clothes on them and FINALLY fill out my front ranks.
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2020/08/17 20:07:11
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ireland
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Ktulhut wrote:
I was skeptical about Contrast, but with a drybrush and a bit of fiddling, it gets skeletons done crazy-fast.
Those look great, can you share the steps? I have a load of Mantic Skeletons to paint, and a fast method to get the bone done would be really helpful!
Also, 6th edition is still hands down the best edition, I think it really shines when Ravening Hordes is used.
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2020/08/17 20:44:17
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Those skeletons look pretty good, and only 4 hours per regiment makes me want to start an undead army, but I shouldn't, but if I do, I am definitely going skeleton heavy.
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2020/08/17 22:16:32
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Misclicking ork wrote:Those skeletons look pretty good, and only 4 hours per regiment makes me want to start an undead army, but I shouldn't, but if I do, I am definitely going skeleton heavy.
You know you want to!
stonehorse wrote: Ktulhut wrote:
I was skeptical about Contrast, but with a drybrush and a bit of fiddling, it gets skeletons done crazy-fast.
Those look great, can you share the steps? I have a load of Mantic Skeletons to paint, and a fast method to get the bone done would be really helpful!
Also, 6th edition is still hands down the best edition, I think it really shines when Ravening Hordes is used.
Spray Wraithbone, paint eye sockets/mouths black, a wash of Skeleton Horde contrast, drybrush Wraithbone, paint the craniums Screaming Skull (they look bad just drybrushed) - all done.
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2020/08/18 01:01:08
Subject: Re:6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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Ktulhut wrote: Misclicking ork wrote:Those skeletons look pretty good, and only 4 hours per regiment makes me want to start an undead army, but I shouldn't, but if I do, I am definitely going skeleton heavy.
You know you want to!
I'm already planning to someday get skaven and space marines, and I still have unpainted Orks and orcs (and I still need to build up those armies a bit more), so undead will have to wait.
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2021/01/14 20:33:01
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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So, this stuff stalled for half a year, because my experience with Hasslefree turned out to be anything but hassle free.
Finally got the models I bought in June though, and I've painted up my first Lahmian.
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2021/01/14 21:35:54
Subject: 6th Edition project - Updating the old, collecting the new
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Armored Iron Breaker
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Ktulhut wrote:So, this stuff stalled for half a year, because my experience with Hasslefree turned out to be anything but hassle free.
Finally got the models I bought in June though, and I've painted up my first Lahmian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxz1DuVaRr8
Great paint job.
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