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 aphyon wrote:
Well

I guess were in AT 43 territory, get the mini's while you can. before it gets stupid expensive and hard to find.

Wonder what game Paolo will come up with next.

I just hope my last order went through

yea i was for the past 4 days contemplating on placing a order, i guess it was my 6th feeling that prevented me from actualy doing it. Perhaps the writing was on the wall as early as in summer, when the ijn troop units did not recive an official annoucement.......

Only thing left now is 3d printing, but that could take years before it is up to speed, if it ever will.
Leaves a few questions open too, like when will the army build app be removed, and is the community big enugh and dedicated enugh to keep the game alive?

As far as i know the only option now is Konflict 47 but that is Warlord Games and their rep aint exactly good(very overpriced models and weak rules set for whatever they make) plus i think even that game is dead, i see no product for it at sale anywhere, so i dont think there is any wierd world war II games out there anymore.

Hitting the related stores now-miniature market noble knight and ammo drop (italy)

Just ordered the desert scorpions primed HQ box to get gregor and izzy, NK has the avatar of cthulu, i might get it just to have it.

Ammo drop still has the IJN railgun tank i think that will be on my list.

Lacing too mutch in ijn to bother speed shopping, only have the starter and i would need ninja battlesquad + basan for 50p. basan is doable, but battlesquad(or any ninja squad) is not and only 50p force is boring, to get to 100p i would need alot more including walkers that are not avalible and ninja infantry types plus hq. I was waiting for restocks before i would take the plunge into ijn, now that will never happend.

Did place an order on mmarked tough, merc shredder/desi as i have no anti air walker in any of my forces and ssu red rain/fury for spetz as i dont own cheap anti tank + karl/lavren as i allready own an iosef.

 FrozenDwarf wrote:

 aphyon wrote:
Well

I guess were in AT 43 territory, get the mini's while you can. before it gets stupid expensive and hard to find.

Wonder what game Paolo will come up with next.

I just hope my last order went through

yea i was for the past 4 days contemplating on placing a order, i guess it was my 6th feeling that prevented me from actualy doing it. Perhaps the writing was on the wall as early as in summer, when the ijn troop units did not recive an official annoucement.......

Only thing left now is 3d printing, but that could take years before it is up to speed, if it ever will.
Leaves a few questions open too, like when will the army build app be removed, and is the community big enugh and dedicated enugh to keep the game alive?

As far as i know the only option now is Konflict 47 but that is Warlord Games and their rep aint exactly good(very overpriced models and weak rules set for whatever they make) plus i think even that game is dead, i see no product for it at sale anywhere, so i dont think there is any wierd world war II games out there anymore.

Sad to see - Also Konflict models are very small compared to DUST

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Lacing too mutch in ijn to bother speed shopping, only have the starter and i would need ninja battlesquad + basan for 50p. basan is doable, but battlesquad(or any ninja squad) is not and only 50p force is boring, to get to 100p i would need alot more including walkers that are not avalible and ninja infantry types plus hq. I was waiting for restocks before i would take the plunge into ijn, now that will never happend.

Did place an order on mmarked tough, merc shredder/desi as i have no anti air walker in any of my forces and ssu red rain/fury for spetz as i dont own cheap anti tank + karl/lavren as i allready own an iosef.

The SSU AA tank is brutal, it is good against almost anything in the game. one of our big SSU players has 3 of them with the artillery/AA option along with 2 of the tesla/cannon tanks.

I added a few items to my NK wish-list to keep an eye out for, that i know i and some friends will want in the future.

It has been more than 2 weeks since i placed my order for the horst and they already billed me, i am wondering what they are doing with all the other items that were still in stock? perhaps filling vendor orders? need to keep an eye on MM/NK games for the next few weeks.


Still really sucks though, i have been building up a good little DUST community and now this.

super irritating considering how good of a game system it is compared to that other thing.

P.S.
DUST USA still has the tengu/enenra walker

https://www.dustusa.net/imperial-japanese-navy-ijn/jp111-ijn-tenguenenra-medium-walker-railgunaa

 Mr Morden wrote:

 FrozenDwarf wrote:

 aphyon wrote:
Well

I guess were in AT 43 territory, get the mini's while you can. before it gets stupid expensive and hard to find.

Wonder what game Paolo will come up with next.

I just hope my last order went through

yea i was for the past 4 days contemplating on placing a order, i guess it was my 6th feeling that prevented me from actualy doing it. Perhaps the writing was on the wall as early as in summer, when the ijn troop units did not recive an official annoucement.......

Only thing left now is 3d printing, but that could take years before it is up to speed, if it ever will.
Leaves a few questions open too, like when will the army build app be removed, and is the community big enugh and dedicated enugh to keep the game alive?

As far as i know the only option now is Konflict 47 but that is Warlord Games and their rep aint exactly good(very overpriced models and weak rules set for whatever they make) plus i think even that game is dead, i see no product for it at sale anywhere, so i dont think there is any wierd world war II games out there anymore.

Sad to see - Also Konflict models are very small compared to DUST

yea i was not refering to konflict47 as replacment for models as they are 28mm and dust is 32mm, but as that was the only game range other then dust1947 that i know of that is in wierd world war 2.



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 aphyon wrote:

 FrozenDwarf wrote:
Lacing too mutch in ijn to bother speed shopping, only have the starter and i would need ninja battlesquad + basan for 50p. basan is doable, but battlesquad(or any ninja squad) is not and only 50p force is boring, to get to 100p i would need alot more including walkers that are not avalible and ninja infantry types plus hq. I was waiting for restocks before i would take the plunge into ijn, now that will never happend.

Did place an order on mmarked tough, merc shredder/desi as i have no anti air walker in any of my forces and ssu red rain/fury for spetz as i dont own cheap anti tank + karl/lavren as i allready own an iosef.

The SSU AA tank is brutal, it is good against almost anything in the game. one of our big SSU players has 3 of them with the artillery/AA option along with 2 of the tesla/cannon tanks.

I added a few items to my NK wish-list to keep an eye out for, that i know i and some friends will want in the future.

It has been more than 2 weeks since i placed my order for the horst and they already billed me, i am wondering what they are doing with all the other items that were still in stock? perhaps filling vendor orders? need to keep an eye on MM/NK games for the next few weeks.


Still really sucks though, i have been building up a good little DUST community and now this.

super irritating considering how good of a game system it is compared to that other thing.

P.S.
DUST USA still has the tengu/enenra walker

https://www.dustusa.net/imperial-japanese-navy-ijn/jp111-ijn-tenguenenra-medium-walker-railgunaa

ssu AA tank might be brutal, but that aint waht i have, i only have the iosef(part of the kickstarter force), thats why i ordered shredder, something is better then nothing.

i might be saved on the ijn, i dunno.
i just placed an order on warfactory, the 2nd dust shop in eu for a merc squad, ninja troop+hq and 777, but only time will tell what happpends to that one. IF that do goes thru, finding the basan is ATM easy as it is the least popular walker set.

Sorry to hear about the game being stopped.
Paolo has been posting pictures of Fantasy stuff on FB recently.Might be what he will be concentrating on now.

Well until the current economic conditions change i cannot see it going anywhere. it has been the last 2 years that they could not survive. the game was looking so promising before everything shut down with all sorts of new models in the works. at least all the rules are still free for continued use. also between current stock and re-selllers like noble knight there will be model availability for some time.

I pulled the trigger, i am now the proud owner of a full 135 point mythos army...darn noble knight for having it all in stock.


That means the only armies i don't have are mercs and IJN.


I know a tyranid layer who plays with us who will be happy now that he can play the monster faction in DUST.

Now the painting.................

A little add on...what could have been if they made the rest of the models at the bottom of the page-

http://www.dust1947depot.com/photos.html

All hope is not out yet for merc and ijn.
merc and ijn walkers is basicly ebay only by now, but the infantry is still avalible in eu shops.

Granted, i am a little doubtfull of thouse eu shops, henche why i did not order anything 4 months ago, but now it is basicly do or get lost. I just hope there wont be any problems and the in stock status on the items i ordered was correct.

You Dust players have my condolences.

I'm just an admirer from afar and a had been a dabbler in the minis and terrain. I was skeptical of the post-FFG Dust but it really looked to me like Paulo had made good and had a built a successful new life for the property. I'm sure you folks all felt the same.

I hope you all keep enjoying the Dust rules. If you want to try others, my club enjoyed the K47 rules a couple years back and even had one player use Dust minis. It's workable, even Dust vs K47 minis add long as you don't mix them in the same army.

well, battlefleet gothic lives again due to 3d printing, no reason to why dust1947 should not aslong as the communitys that enjoys this game still continues to exist. There is bound to be some 3d files pop up in some years.

We can hope, or better yet releasing some of those "unfinished" designs. i really wanted those IJN battle robots.

Just got my desert scorpions HQ box in. i think i will give the command squad to the new guy since he just got started with his army and doesn't have one yet...since i already have one for every army i own. the characters look like fun so i will keep them around. of course gregor and izzy was the entire reason i got it to begin with.

My orders are underway aswell, so a 50p IJN ninja force is in the bank.
I allso found the impossible on ammodrop, an axis jagd walker, primed with all 3 weps. gonna paint it white so it can double as Snowlynx as i have Sigrid2.

No more cash to spare for this and by the time i would get some again i doubt there is any product left for what i am missing, so i`ll be happy with what i have: 100p allies(mainly usmc), 100p ssu (mainly spetznas), 75p axis (block), 50p IJN (ninja) + some merch units to be used as fillers: hq squad, merc troop, demo squad and AA walker.

That is still a pretty decent sized game. we consider 150 to be equal to 2k for 40K

Your axis block is actually up to 125 since the IJN are part of the same bloc.

I can mix and match of course, but my core armies are set up for 150 with a few extras for variety swap outs.

Have you seen some of the recent army pics up on the facebook page? some of them are quite impressive.

No, i dont use FB, is it a public group?

Where was it stated that axis and ijn can be in same force? I know they work together in the lore, but did not know that transfered to the game aswell, and the army build app i only see merc option when i uncheck the block option.

Yea, you old time collectors have all you need, we new collectors got shafted and have to rely on 3d print proxys from now on.

I don't have a FB account i just visited it and scrolled through what i could see. one of the players posted a huge IJN ninja army. looked fantastic.

My understanding is that the IJN is part of the axis block just like the British stuff is part of the allied bloc or the PLA is part of the SSU block. they are sub factions within the block. if you look at the world map The IJN territory is listed as part of the axis bloc. there are only 4 blocs the light green is neutral.

That map is outdated. IJN are not Axis bloc, they are their own standalone bloc/unafilliated faction. Fluffwise, the IJN is in a civil war with the Japanese Army which is still part of the Axis bloc, hence why its "IJN" and not "Japan".

chaos0xomega wrote:
That map is outdated. IJN are not Axis bloc, they are their own standalone bloc/unafilliated faction. Fluffwise, the IJN is in a civil war with the Japanese Army which is still part of the Axis bloc, hence why its "IJN" and not "Japan".

Interesting, historically there was always rivalry between the imperial navy and army, so it makes sense in a way, although open rebellion doesn't seem like something the emperor would allow. it appears form the Wikki that the entire military united in separating from the AXIS bloc. so it makes sense they gave them their own bloc super weapon while still using some axis equipment.

I don't have any IJN stuff so that isn't going to be an issue for me.

On the flip side i think i will use this in future for the AXIS hetzer model or the dustified STUGG H that i have the card for.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1014780053/huntsman-hover-tank-dieselpunk-print?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=3d+printed+scifi+terrain&ref=sr_gallery-8-3&organic_search_click=1

I wanted to get one anyway so i might as well use this as an excuse

Time for new shiny minis

the Mythos army arrived



First game was up against an infantry heavy allies force in the woods

including 3 new hero models i got out of the desert scorpions HQ box.




The table set up for this one was plane crash. the middle 24" of the table was the search area. on turn 4 all infantry units started to look for the secret documents. only found on double army symbols. when found it could be placed withing 8" of the search unit but could not be claimed if an enemy unit was within 8" of it.

The mission was a bit hard for Mythos since all the monsters count as vehicles so they only had 4 units searching.

only took the one pic of this game at the start.



Game 2 one of my co-workers showed up to get some games in so we ran him through a demo of DUST with more of a standard Axis VS Allies.

It only took about 2 turns to take out most of the stuff on the table.






The last game the guy who wanted to play Mythos monsters got in a game VS the other DUST Axis players.

This game started out clearly in favor of the Axis force even with all the LOS blocking terrain. Most of the Mythos monsters have short range or melee only attacks. i really want to add a MI-GO raider squad to the list to give it some more range and get it up to 150 points.

About half way through the Avatar of Nyarlathotep turned the game on it's head by eliminating the 2 heavy laser walkers with some well placed eldrich fire and proceeded to eliminate every unit that could hurt it, surviving thanks to it's high armor class and damage resilience.

I managed to get 2 boxes of PLA multi-purpose infantry for my Chinese forces. My collection is good now, I"m so stoked.

I'm looking at a ~$3k order to get basically everything to round out my IJN/Luftwaffe collections (only thing I'd be missing is the Steel Samurai because the fookin thing sold out again), as well as the multi option ninjas and ninja specialists. Also the RSO Flak because RSOs other than the older Pak and laser kannone minis are apparently sold out everywhere. Also considering picking up a smattering of Allied/SSU stuff for posterity.

Don't particularly care for the game per se, it was fun but a bit simple for my tastes on the grid and all, are there any other (generic) rulesets that they might have applicability to?

chaos0xomega wrote:
I'm looking at a ~$3k order to get basically everything to round out my IJN/Luftwaffe collections (only thing I'd be missing is the Steel Samurai because the fookin thing sold out again), as well as the multi option ninjas and ninja specialists. Also the RSO Flak because RSOs other than the older Pak and laser kannone minis are apparently sold out everywhere. Also considering picking up a smattering of Allied/SSU stuff for posterity.

Don't particularly care for the game per se, it was fun but a bit simple for my tastes on the grid and all, are there any other (generic) rulesets that they might have applicability to?

Well it was ment to be the bridge between board games and tabletop games, so the simple setting you cant change. There is normal inch conversions for using the game on normal 3D tables in the advanced section in the core book, but that might not be enugh for you?


My stuff prolly wont come until another 1-2 weeks time, (thats how it is when you live to the far north and are not part of eu) but i have begun painting the ijn starter box. tengu is done and the squad is 90% done.

Bit the bullet, bought the following to add to my Kampfgruppe Florentine and Shadow of Death boxes:

Allies
3x USMC Light Walkers Pack
1x Six Shooter/Bulldog
2x Blackhawk Light Walker
4x Pounder/Hotdog
4x Cobra/Rattler (AMP)
2x Fireball/Punisher
2x Devestator/Punisher II
1x Heavy Rangers Assault Squad
1x Heavy Rangers HQ
2x Allied Rangers Army Box
1x Taskforce Rhino

Axis
2x Fallschirm RSO Laserkanone
2z Luft Hans
2x Luft Heinrich
2x Luft Hermann
2x Luft Horst
1x Hexe
3x Fallschirm RSO Pak 40 (2 to convert to Flak 3)
1x Koenigsluther (lucky, albeit expensive find)
2x Fallschirmjager Tank Hunter Squad
2x Fallschirmjager Anti Aircraft Squad
2x Jagdpanzer/Flammpanzer
1x Raketentruppe HQ
1x Fallschirmjager HQ
2x Raketentruppe Tank Hunter Squad
2x Raketentruppe Anti Aircraft Squad
2x Luftwaffe Infantry Support Units
1x Fallschirmjager Battle Squad
1x Raketentruppe Battle Squad
1x Sturmkoenig (another lucky find, also expensive, also a premium edition)
1x Axis Luftwaffe Army
2x Axis Luftwaffe Support Weapons
2x Koenigslothar/Koenigswotan

IJN
4x Gembu/Basan
2x Type 777 Medium Tank
2x IJN Navy Cadets Kill Squad
2x IJN Cadets Support Weapons
1x IJN Ninja HQ
1x Ninja Infiltration Squad
3x Tengu/Enenra Meedium Walker
2x IJN Railgun Teams
4x IJN Ryu II/Ruy III Heavy Walker
1x IJN Headquarters

SSU
2x Steel Guard Army Box
8x PLA Steel Infantry Multioption Box
4x Red Rain/Red Fury
2x Type 47 KV3D Heavy Tesla Walker
2x Steel Guard Starter Set - Kowalski's Marauders
1x SSU PLA Headquarters

Totaled around $5500

No clue what I'm going to do with it all just yet, those mechs will definitely be seeing some use with Gamma Wolves though

Yeah i never used the grid rules. the 3d terrain rules are far superior to current 40K in every way. i like to think of it as infinity "light" as it adds elements of both 8th ed style 40K and infinity being a bit more complex than 40K in the core mechanics but not as crunchy as infinity for speed of play.

Everybody likes different game systems for different reasons. i cannot stand malifaux for example and while i love the star wars legion minis i hate the FF mechanics with a passion.


Edit for the list-
That's Some solid choices

I am assuming you went all primed edition on those. i would hate to have to build all that as kits


The steel guards are a pain to fight without artillery, they just refuse to die. and the fallshirmjager are great fun to drop in on your enemies. the games yesterday i gave one of my spare ROLF characters to the other axis player and he used him to great effect.

haha, one person is raking up half of the inventory in u.s, =P

Atleast you have a range of models that is quite unique, and as you said, the mechs will fit right into gammawolf.

Yeah everything is primed except the sturmkoenig. I wanted a sturmkoenig and a premium edition was all that was available lol.

EDIT 1 - Only about half of that is coming from the US, the rest is being imported from AmmoDrop (and also a random dude on eBay who had a Koenigsluther still in packaging from the Battlefront era).

I also missed a couple items on the list lol
1x SSU Steel Guard Command Squad (Dust Tactics version, so missing the 4th guy - Guai Lo)
3x Karl/Lavrentiy

The only thing I really wanted that I couldn't get was the Steel Samurai (and also RSO Flak 3s). Would have also liked to have been able to grab Steel Guard Fire Support, Anti-Tank, and Tesla squads. Would have also liked Natalya/Natasha/Nadya walkers, my inability to find them is how I ended up with the PLA Steel Guard squads.

Going forward I'll probably pick up some more stuff to round out the forces and bring them all to rough points parity (not that I expect that I'll ever actually play them using Dust rules) as I come across stuff. Dust USA is still waiting on its delivery of the IJN Ninja Specialists and Multioption Ninjas, of which I will be buying a bunch (assuming they dont sell out first). For SSU, right now I'm eyeing some more PLA Steel Guards and maybe a few boxes of PLA light infantry too for SSU, for Axis I'd like to see if I can grab some Luthers/Ludwigs/Lothars (but maybe I'll settle for the Jagd versions or some Wotans/Flammluthers) would aso be nice to get Adler/Blitz/Falke/Moskitos in ther, and Allies probably a few more walkers, maybe I'll get some Marines too.

Realistically I'll probably end up using the mechs, etc. for Gamma Wolves/Konflikt 47 more than anything else, though I may write a generic ruleset to accommodate the entire collection of miinis, though maybe I'll give the 3d/non-grid rules a go to see how I like them. Personally, I'm hoping another company swoops in and buys up the rights to the minis and rereleases stuff as part of a new game - its a shame the infantry minis are such an off scale otherwise I could see Warlord swooping in to resuscitate Konflikt 47 with the DUST walkers, etc. (as Warlords own K47 minis are mostly dogshit).

EDIT 2 - Found the good Command Squad w/ Guai-Lo, so added that.

Dont hold your breath, products has been listed as awaiting restock for several months allready, and the news gave the impression that limited numbers of the ninja stuff aka hq, multisquad and recon was made.
And that giant ninja robot was super limited.

Where did the prepainted premiums went off to? i was on the site the day before the game shut down and there was still alot of premium stuff for sale.

I assume the inventory on dustgame.com is being shipped out to ammodrop and maybe dust usa.

FrozenDwarf wrote:Dont hold your breath, products has been listed as awaiting restock for several months allready, and the news gave the impression that limited numbers of the ninja stuff aka hq, multisquad and recon was made.
And that giant ninja robot was super limited.

Where did the prepainted premiums went off to? i was on the site the day before the game shut down and there was still alot of premium stuff for sale.

chaos0xomega wrote:I assume the inventory on dustgame.com is being shipped out to ammodrop and maybe dust usa.

Yeah i was thinking the same, lets hope they show up, There were several items on my "to get later" list. now we just need Paolo to release STL files and rules for all the stuff he never released.