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Stopped by local store.
checked out some new boxes. and was a bit stunned for a heartbeat.

5 Incubi $55 bucks?! that is $11 per model, are you kidding me. I can eat out for a week.

Repentia squad $55 bucks, that is quite an investment, but kinda reasonable, but kinda not.
Retributor Squad, $55 bucks... I am done.

Is this normal, or I have not been at a local shop in a while?

Yeah, they've started getting pretty aggressive with the yearly price increases over the past 3-4 years now. Zerkers went up from 32.50 euros to 39 euros this year alone. New unit kits are always 45 quid at least too, though they might be cheaper if they're an elite unit with half the total number of models.

Sometimes I think they're high. Then I remember that a single metal Wraithguard used to be 10 or 11 bucks in a blister, and I think "okay so they're still roughly 10 dollars". But THEN I remember that Dire Avengers were 8 or 10 in a box for 25 or 30$ at some point, and now they're 5 in a box for 35.

And then I remember that I already have a ton of models and ebay is a thing.

a fat guy wrote:
Yeah, they've started getting pretty aggressive with the yearly price increases over the past 3-4 years now. Zerkers went up from 32.50 euros to 39 euros this year alone. New unit kits are always 45 quid at least too, though they might be cheaper if they're an elite unit with half the total number of models.

k

You know what was funny, in the shop, new box is $55 for 5 lads.
And in a consignment case, where folk sell their things for store credit, 10 Kabalites for $15

I walked into the store, and got out with same feeling I had back in 2015, I can't afford this game, again.



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 Insectum7 wrote:
Sometimes I think they're high. Then I remember that a single metal Wraithguard used to be 10 or 11 bucks in a blister, and I think "okay so they're still roughly 10 dollars". But THEN I remember that Dire Avengers were 8 or 10 in a box for 25 or 30$ at some point, and now they're 5 in a box for 35.

And then I remember that I already have a ton of models and ebay is a thing.

"And then I remember that I already have a ton of models"
Amen

Price have increased significantly since the last two years after a long period in which prices basically remained the same.

 Blackie wrote:
Price have increased significantly since the last two years after a long period in which prices basically remained the same.

As in euros right, because in other currancies there was no time where the prices wouldn't go up?

Karol wrote:

As in euros right, because in other currancies there was no time where the prices wouldn't go up?

I don't know about $ or £ or other currancies but in euro we had the same prices in 5-7th editions here, basically 10ish years. Then late 7th-beginning 8th new kits became more expensive on average and in 2018 there was a price hike on several older kits. After/during the lockdown a second price hike on older kits, and new kits (like sisters) simply adjusted to the prices GW decided to set a few years ago.

 Blackie wrote:

Karol wrote:

As in euros right, because in other currancies there was no time where the prices wouldn't go up?

I don't know about $ or £ or other currancies but in euro we had the same prices in 5-7th editions here, basically 10ish years. Then late 7th-beginning 8th new kits became more expensive on average and in 2018 there was a price hike on several older kits. After/during the lockdown a second price hike on older kits, and new kits (like sisters) simply adjusted to the prices GW decided to set a few years ago.

It's funny because even when I first started this hobby I can remember my parents remarking how expensive it all was, if they knew where it would end up I doubt they'd let me anywhere near a GW

 Blackie wrote:
Price have increased significantly since the last two years after a long period in which prices basically remained the same.

K, so I have not been around for a while.

I though GW got good, I though they have changed!

 Blackie wrote:

Karol wrote:

As in euros right, because in other currancies there was no time where the prices wouldn't go up?

I don't know about $ or £ or other currancies but in euro we had the same prices in 5-7th editions here, basically 10ish years. Then late 7th-beginning 8th new kits became more expensive on average and in 2018 there was a price hike on several older kits. After/during the lockdown a second price hike on older kits, and new kits (like sisters) simply adjusted to the prices GW decided to set a few years ago.

that must have been real nice.

I've been out of the geedub bubble for a while but looking at newer kits to add to the marine half of the starter was a bit of a shock above what I was braced for

I think ill be sticking with my pointy ears although looking forward to killy lilly costing the same as a box of wychs

Yep even though the advances in manufacturing tech has driven the actual cost of production way down. even figuring in overhead for shelf space and creating the original molds/sculpts the prices are still very high.

For those prices i can just buy all my DUST minis as full premium, fully painted and weathered ready to play.

Take a look at mantic games as well for comparison-3 custodus jetbikes were $66 here last time i looked. i can get 4 warpath jetbikes for $20 in plastic.

There are lots of other comparisons like warlord games and such who regularly run at 50% of GW prices .

There is a reason i have not bought a GW model in years. last thing i ever bought new from them was a reaver titan from titanicus to go with my 3rd party epic 40K army back when titanicus first got released.

Lolz, I remember the gakstorm after age of sigmar was out. army and book burning, everyone making videos about leaving the hobby.
Few years later, GW got new management, got (start collecting) boxes, reasonable prices, new models, engaged the community.

So the reason I asked people about this is because I was shocked by price, and saw Kid_Kyoto's signature.
And was like, Noooooo, is OLD GW coming back???

Prices are high because people are willing to pay them. If everyone stopped buying products, the prices would go down, but alas 90% of 40k players just accept whatever is given them with no complaints.

GW finally learned how to market to the normies, and thus have a larger playerbase to sell to, thus can afford to cut "dead weight" from long-time loyalists.

It also helps that they can use IP law as a cudgel to prevent any competition.

 aphyon wrote:
Yep even though the advances in manufacturing tech has driven the actual cost of production way down. even figuring in overhead for shelf space and creating the original molds/sculpts the prices are still very high.

For those prices i can just buy all my DUST minis as full premium, fully painted and weathered ready to play.

Take a look at mantic games as well for comparison-3 custodus jetbikes were $66 here last time i looked. i can get 4 warpath jetbikes for $20 in plastic.

There are lots of other comparisons like warlord games and such who regularly run at 50% of GW prices .

There is a reason i have not bought a GW model in years. last thing i ever bought new from them was a reaver titan from titanicus to go with my 3rd party epic 40K army back when titanicus first got released.

Sup man!
Yep, last thing for me was few (start collecting) boxes when they where $80 back in 2018

Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

Some kit's prices are truely insane. I really want a melee squad of plague marines, but to get one, I have to buy two boxes of the 7 marine set.
Even with discounts, that would 64€ for just one unit of melee troops, while something like a defiler is just 50€.

And let's not get started on mek guns. Beautiful models, awesome on the tabletop, but nothing will ever be able to justify a unit of them clocking in at 160€.

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

there's othing premium about gw tho, take tamaya vehicles, way more detailed.
Take Resin from Anvil industry: I built 70 dudes from them and had to clean resin maybee all of 20 minutes, compare that to the gak GW demands premium for aka FW and Failcast and how they treat their game balance...

Wait, I though they dont IP people anymore, as much.
or is the past repeating it self?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSxQnZ3TM8

 Mothsniper wrote:

Wait, I though they dont IP people anymore, as much.
or is the past repeating it self?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSxQnZ3TM8

What I mean is that no competitor can make their own Adeptus Astartes models to compete with GWs. If you want Intercessors, you have 1 option, Citadel Miniatures and if you don't like the price, you can go to hell.

If it was possible for other companies to make Intercessors, there would be competition and the prices would go down.

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

that would suck. wait, premium brand in game or hobby?
Because as a premium brand far as the hobby goes, I think I speak for everyone when I say (I have back log of unfinished models and projects that will comfortably occupy my free time for next 3-5 years without buying a single model)

 Mothsniper wrote:

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

that would suck. wait, premium brand in game or hobby?
Because as a premium brand far as the hobby goes, I think I speak for everyone when I say (I have back log of unfinished models and projects that will comfortably occupy my free time for next 3-5 years without buying a single model)

What's that? Your old models suddenly have sub-par rules, and their replacements are better in every way? Oh no, that sucks /s

The current price scheme is why I haven't bought anything new from GW for quite some time. If I want something these day, I'll just look to ebay.

Now, GW could maybe get me to reconsider that decision by releasing some new DE units (note: new units, not yet more resculpts of existing models). However, at this point, that seems about as likely as me launching a spacecraft built entirely out of marshmallow.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Mothsniper wrote:

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

that would suck. wait, premium brand in game or hobby?
Because as a premium brand far as the hobby goes, I think I speak for everyone when I say (I have back log of unfinished models and projects that will comfortably occupy my free time for next 3-5 years without buying a single model)

What's that? Your old models suddenly have sub-par rules, and their replacements are better in every way? Oh no, that sucks /s

Your army that cost premium now sucks, and you complain, better squat it/S

 BaconCatBug wrote:

What I mean is that no competitor can make their own Adeptus Astartes models to compete with GWs. If you want Intercessors, you have 1 option, Citadel Miniatures and if you don't like the price, you can go to hell.
If it was possible for other companies to make Intercessors, there would be competition and the prices would go down.

did not even think of that

Not Online!!! wrote:

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

there's othing premium about gw tho, take tamaya vehicles, way more detailed.
Take Resin from Anvil industry: I built 70 dudes from them and had to clean resin maybee all of 20 minutes, compare that to the gak GW demands premium for aka FW and Failcast and how they treat their game balance...

Hey I agree on the quality. My opinion is more which segment of the market they are shooting for.
Higher ticket items for a more targeted segment (deep pockets) rather than just being a mass market kind of thing.

And by that I mean a certain segment is willing to pay a high premium for model specific rules, intricacy of said models (which again I don't find appealing), lore and universe built up around them.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 Mothsniper wrote:

Shinji wrote:
Well they are trying to position themselves as a premium brand.
I'd expect the price trend to continue.

that would suck. wait, premium brand in game or hobby?
Because as a premium brand far as the hobby goes, I think I speak for everyone when I say (I have back log of unfinished models and projects that will comfortably occupy my free time for next 3-5 years without buying a single model)

What's that? Your old models suddenly have sub-par rules, and their replacements are better in every way? Oh no, that sucks /s

Your army that cost premium now sucks, and you complain, better squat it/S

Too bad, I am in it for the hobby, new insesters and innersesters are out? don't care, have 80 dwarfs to paint lolz

Uh.. did my post get deleted or something?

Yeah, your inflammatory, rude and off topic post was removed. Please keep on topic from now on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNzSOyYBaH4
Games Workshop Price INCREASE Scam Explained (June 2020)

Found this.

So that is why those boxes are $55... because new sets are coming out at $60, that makes sense now.