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Regular Dakkanaut




Per the FAQ:

*Page 94 – Rangers, Abilities, Cameleoline Cloaks
Change to read:
‘Each time a ranged attack is allocated to a model in this unit
while it is receiving the benefits of cover, add an additional 1 to
any armour saving throw made against that attack.’


Does this replace the entire Cameleoline Cloak ability or just the cover save part?
   
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos





West Yorkshire

Tricktock wrote:
Per the FAQ:

*Page 94 – Rangers, Abilities, Cameleoline Cloaks
Change to read:
‘Each time a ranged attack is allocated to a model in this unit
while it is receiving the benefits of cover, add an additional 1 to
any armour saving throw made against that attack.’


Does this replace the entire Cameleoline Cloak ability or just the cover save part?


It looks like a complete rewrite of the cloaks, so this text completely replaces their current version which, if you say provided a -1 to be shot at, no longer applies.

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Regular Dakkanaut




Yes, don't worry, its not just you, lictors lost theirs too (now same as above.

Edited because I originally posted deathleaper had lost his -2 as well, but this turned out to be incorrect. So lictors are now +1 extra on saves in cover, while deathleaper is that (instead of +2 saves) and -2 to hit.

Honestly i don't think they've lost much really, with the new terrain rules it should be fairly easy to get them at -1 anyway.

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Plus makes them more effective in alaitoc where -1 to hit would lose much of it's point

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It's just GW admitting that no-one runs anything but Alatioc, so they are removing a redundant rule.
   
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But the Alaitoc characters still keep the -1 to hit - they got the same change, but only to the "last sentence." So I think more likely it's just another Gee-dubs special where they didn't proofread what they were doing carefully enough.

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Gathering the Informations.

Tricktock wrote:
Per the FAQ:

*Page 94 – Rangers, Abilities, Cameleoline Cloaks
Change to read:
‘Each time a ranged attack is allocated to a model in this unit
while it is receiving the benefits of cover, add an additional 1 to
any armour saving throw made against that attack.’


Does this replace the entire Cameleoline Cloak ability or just the cover save part?

It does. The basics of it is that this puts it in line with the Marine Cameloline Cloaks.
   
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GW likes to randomly remove -1 to hit rules from xenos models when editions change. Just ask my warbikers!

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Gathering the Informations.

 Jidmah wrote:
GW likes to randomly remove -1 to hit rules from xenos models when editions change. Just ask my warbikers!

Yeah...not really.

I've been saying since the Raven Guard trait got changed that we'd be seeing a reduction of the -1 to hit stuff or additional caveats added. It's always been dumb anyways that Eldar capes do something different to everyone else's.
   
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Yea less to hit modifiers is a good thing, they were pretty busted in 8th.
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

So it looks like I'm back to using Dire Avengers as my main "cheap" Troops then.
I only added Rangers to my army because GW took away my *real* Troops - Windriders.
But since it's looking like you'll still need Battalion, I'll add some DAs instead. Always liked them better anyway.

   
 
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