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So on page 213 of the BRB paragraph 2:

"Whenever a model makes any kind of move, it can be moved across aircraft models (and their bases)
as if they were not there, and they can be moved within an enemy aircrafts engagement range,
but it cannot end the move on top of another model (or its base),
and it cannot end the move within engagement range of any enemy aircraft models."

Further on in heroic interventions, pile ins and consolidations it even tells us to ignore aircraft when performing them.

So far I have not found anything in the charge phase section or regarding the fly keyword that grants an exception to this. it cannot end the move within engagement range of any enemy aircraft models.

Opinions?

I don't have the book yet but my understanding is that the text for the FLY keyword states that it supersedes the ones you quoted.

 Bilge Rat wrote:
I don't have the book yet but my understanding is that the text for the FLY keyword states that it supersedes the ones you quoted.

CHecking the free online basic rules. Nope.
There is an exception for FLY that you don't ignore aircraft for heroic intervention/pile in/consolidate but no where does it say a model with FLY can charge an aircraft.

 Ordana wrote:

 Bilge Rat wrote:
I don't have the book yet but my understanding is that the text for the FLY keyword states that it supersedes the ones you quoted.

CHecking the free online basic rules. Nope.
There is an exception for FLY that you don't ignore aircraft for heroic intervention/pile in/consolidate but no where does it say a model with FLY can charge an aircraft.

^This is true.

But as I originally stated, even then it doesn't actually allow you to end in engagement range.

So far I still haven't found an exception (I have the book and am studying it now).

Wow, some people cant be bothered to check YMDC, to see if this hasnt been covered yet.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/790230.page

In short, the restriction you posted only applies in the movement phase.

 p5freak wrote:
Wow, some people cant be bothered to check YMDC, to see if this hasnt been covered yet.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/790230.page

In short, the restriction you posted only applies in the movement phase.

Calm down dude. I scrolled through and missed it, which happens.

Furthermore, that thread you shared doesn't change anything really. Your claiming the section it's listed under (movement) somehow is the answer despite that same section listing heroic interventions, pile ins and consolidations which all exclusively happen in the charge and assault phases respectively. Which entirely shoots down that argument.

The charge phase gives you permission to move within engagement range, and so does the aircraft rule ironically. The trouble is the aircraft rule specifically states units cannot end within engagement range and there is no illicit exception to that statement in the book. Mind you the aircraft is also in the advanced section.

Rules from a specific phase only apply to that phase, unless the rule says something else.

 p5freak wrote:
Rules from a specific phase only apply to that phase, unless the rule says something else.

Which they do. They specifically call out three types of move that occur in both the charge and/or melee phase.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 p5freak wrote:
Rules from a specific phase only apply to that phase, unless the rule says something else.

Which they do. They specifically call out three types of move that occur in both the charge and/or melee phase.

Yes, the rules for pile in, consolidate, and heroic intervention from the movement phase apply in the charge phase. But not the one about engagement range of AIRCRAFT. This restriction doesnt exist in the charge phase.