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 Arko wrote:
Anyway, I'm out of this thread, it's pointless, everyone can make what they want, it's just sad that's because of GW's mistakes, some people here want to divide the community in half because they're not able to win against "x" army.

Hey, wanna know a secret?

 Arko wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Arko wrote:
I just realised it's a L2P issue. A good player will always find a way to win. The winner of the last big 9th edition tournament in Australia is...an ork player.
I bet this Guy spent less time crying and more time using his brain to find a way to beat the evil OP marines. And BAM! It worked !
Be more like this Guy, and less like you, that will be an improvment.

But in the end, I'm glad some people here want To boycott SM players, because you're the worst kind of players anyway. Always crying and throw tantrums, bad players, bad attitude, so it's a win-win situation

When another codex will be strong, we will see you again create threads like this, except if it's your codex ofc, because in this case I bet we won't hear about you anymore.

You're just a reflection of what's happening in the real world nowadays...When you're facing a problem, instead of trying To solve it, become stronger and use your brain to find a solution, you just cry and whine but guess what, that won't solve the problem at all, grow up and be like the Australian Ork player for a change. Nothing is invincible nor unbeatable.

When you are done strawmanning op will you answer his question or further break rule 1.

I think I made my statement clear as crystal about this matter, but it looks like you're the kind of people who needs a "Dangerous : don't eat" on a box of Tide pod so here we go :

OK lad, let's see.
I stated that you are strawmanning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
You prop up all people that complain, justified or not, in one group, and then knock them down via an attack on it, creating the ilusion of a rebutal of the argument.
Logically speaking that was however inacurate considering what was actually voiced by many people.

No, there will never be a boycott in my local area, because we like challenges, we already played againts top codexes many times in the past and were able to win, and are not 5 yo crying kids.

Good on you, but just as your demand for evidence and then refuteing it because it is anecdotal this is too. So, what is it. You can't state A is allowed and A is not allowed.

BTW, trying to call me out about forum rules because you don't have any arguments to answer my pure facts just show everyone how you can't handle the truth. Now I'm waiting from you to call out ALL of the people here who did'nt answer OP's question, and there's a lot in the crying side, so do it, or you will look very biased

The forum rules very clearly state what is allowed, you came in, attacked half the thread by strawmanning them and insinuating that they can^t play. And when called out on it you personally attack me with insinuating that i am mentally handicapped, yet you couldn't defend your own argument.
Oh and that ork player you brought up? Yeah, that is one datapoint. Do you know what one datapoint is? Not a statistically backable argument.

If you'd have actually answered the initial question without the personal attacks you and I would not have had any issue, but just as much as you complain about the "whiners" and "complainers" not manning up to solve the problem you sure as hell are not willing to facilitate or even read responses.
For the record, i also gave an answer in this thread which is completly contradictory to what you state in which category i am supposedly in. But alas, that would've required the courtesy of actually reading an argument and understanding , something not done in the modern era, so just as much as you throw the "crybabies" as a modern issue in one corner you yourself are not above such modern behaviour here aswell.


Irony: Thine name is Akro.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Arko wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Arko wrote:
I just realised it's a L2P issue. A good player will always find a way to win. The winner of the last big 9th edition tournament in Australia is...an ork player.
I bet this Guy spent less time crying and more time using his brain to find a way to beat the evil OP marines. And BAM! It worked !
Be more like this Guy, and less like you, that will be an improvment.

But in the end, I'm glad some people here want To boycott SM players, because you're the worst kind of players anyway. Always crying and throw tantrums, bad players, bad attitude, so it's a win-win situation

When another codex will be strong, we will see you again create threads like this, except if it's your codex ofc, because in this case I bet we won't hear about you anymore.

You're just a reflection of what's happening in the real world nowadays...When you're facing a problem, instead of trying To solve it, become stronger and use your brain to find a solution, you just cry and whine but guess what, that won't solve the problem at all, grow up and be like the Australian Ork player for a change. Nothing is invincible nor unbeatable.

When you are done strawmanning op will you answer his question or further break rule 1.

I think I made my statement clear as crystal about this matter, but it looks like you're the kind of people who needs a "Dangerous : don't eat" on a box of Tide pod so here we go :

OK lad, let's see.
I stated that you are strawmanning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
You prop up all people that complain, justified or not, in one group, and then knock them down via an attack on it, creating the ilusion of a rebutal of the argument.
Logically speaking that was however inacurate considering what was actually voiced by many people.

No, there will never be a boycott in my local area, because we like challenges, we already played againts top codexes many times in the past and were able to win, and are not 5 yo crying kids.

Good on you, but just as your demand for evidence and then refuteing it because it is anecdotal this is too. So, what is it. You can't state A is allowed and A is not allowed.

BTW, trying to call me out about forum rules because you don't have any arguments to answer my pure facts just show everyone how you can't handle the truth. Now I'm waiting from you to call out ALL of the people here who did'nt answer OP's question, and there's a lot in the crying side, so do it, or you will look very biased

The forum rules very clearly state what is allowed, you came in, attacked half the thread by strawmanning them and insinuating that they can^t play. And when called out on it you personally attack me with insinuating that i am mentally handicapped, yet you couldn't defend your own argument.
Oh and that ork player you brought up? Yeah, that is one datapoint. Do you know what one datapoint is? Not a statistically backable argument.

If you'd have actually answered the initial question without the personal attacks you and I would not have had any issue, but just as much as you complain about the "whiners" and "complainers" not manning up to solve the problem you sure as hell are not willing to facilitate or even read responses.
For the record, i also gave an answer in this thread which is completly contradictory to what you state in which category i am supposedly in. But alas, that would've required the courtesy of actually reading an argument and understanding , something not done in the modern era, so just as much as you throw the "crybabies" as a modern issue in one corner you yourself are not above such modern behaviour here aswell.


Irony: Thine name is Akro.

I really wanted to leave, but I can't pass on this.

I knocked them down with facts, if they can't stand it, I don't give a damn. Refusing to play against "x" because you THINK you can't win is a loser mentality, period. I bet a lot of people whining here have not played more than 3 games againts SM, hell, I'm 100% sure some have never played a game against them in 9th, but it's easier to get on the hater band wagon, you feel strong when you're a pack, but that doesn't make you right.

I've never stated that A can do this or not, actually, the people who wants to boycott SM are the ones who wants to decide who's able to play or not, the irony

Yep, and a lot of whiners here also "broke the rule" by not answering OP's question, but you didn't call them out? Why?

And I'm not insinuating that they can't play, I'm saying it loud and clear. A good player will always find a way, period. I could'nt defend my own argument? Lol, I brought many examples and proofs, but as always, people don't want the truth, they just want to hate for some reasons. You remind me of this :


One datapoint? People are saying here that SM are unbeatable, I juste proved that's not true. Do you have any statistic that SM won every single games since 1 year? I bet you don't, because that's not true. But I can link you many tournaments where other armies were on top, you just need to go on T3 website and look at it for yourself

Oh I'm the one who brought personnal attacks here? What about the guys who want to discriminate players based on the army they play? What about people who said that SM players should be ashamed of themselves? Is that not personnal attacks? So one side can do it, and the others can't? Looks like YOU're the one here who can't read. As I said, you're biased, so talking to you is pointless, I put you pure facts in front of you, and you refuse to see them because handling the truth is too hard.

Anyways, I'm definitely out this time, if you want to continue this conversation, feel free to PM, always a pleasure to have an argument

I knocked them down with facts, if they can't stand it, I don't give a damn. Refusing to play against "x" because you THINK you can't win is a loser mentality, period. I bet a lot of people whining here have not played more than 3 games againts SM, hell, I'm 100% sure some have never played a game against them in 9th, but it's easier to get on the hater band wagon, you feel strong when you're a pack, but that doesn't make you right.

And AGAIN you are missing my point, i also have at no point agreed with their statements but then again like i said you couldn't even bother to actually read what was WRITTEN and instead created a strawman.
Btw i don't disagree with this, what i disagree with is your portrayal. But that would be clear if you actually read what was stated.

I've never stated that A can do this or not, actually, the people who wants to boycott SM are the ones who wants to decide who's able to play or not, the irony

No, there will never be a boycott in my local area, because we like challenges, we already played againts top codexes many times in the past and were able to win, and are not 5 yo crying kids.

What your argument actually says: "MY evidence is better then YOUR evidence, Because I said so" A better for me then for you because your A doesn't matter.
A can not be A and not A

Yep, and a lot of whiners here also "broke the rule" by not answering OP's question, but you didn't call them out? Why?

Unlike you most remained civil.
theres a difference between you and you donkeycave. learn the difference.

And I'm not insinuating that they can't play, I'm saying it loud and clear. A good player will always find a way, period. I could'nt defend my own argument? Lol, I brought many examples and proofs, but as always, people don't want the truth, they just want to hate for some reasons. You remind me of this

Ok, counter exemple then, play R&H against space marines, or DKoK, i'll wait.
Also to reiterate A DATAPOINT (SINGULAR) AS YOU BROUGHT UP IS NOT VALID STATISTICAL EVIDENCE.
And the picture just shows that you HAVEN'T yet read any reply really and just feel targeted by a simple remark or situation, maybee it is you that would suffer from a boycott of marines?

One datapoint? People are saying here that SM are unbeatable, I juste proved that's not true. Do you have any statistic that SM won every single games since 1 year? I bet you don't, because that's not true. But I can link you many tournaments where other armies were on top, you just need to go on T3 website and look at it for yourself

one datapoint is one datapoint and you know just as much as me, if you remove mirror matches it paints a pretty bleak picture after SM 2.0 to the point that balancing is an issue. I also have never called for a boycott but then again that would still require you to actually read arguments brought against you or actually understanding what the critic is of your "argument".
Which you don't.

Oh I'm the one who brought personnal attacks here? What about the guys who want to discriminate players based on the army they play? What about people who said that SM players should be ashamed of themselves? Is that not personnal attacks? So one side can do it, and the others can't? Looks like YOU're the one here who can't read. As I said, you're biased, so talking to you is pointless, I put you pure facts in front of you, and you refuse to see them because handling the truth is too hard.

My argument was based upon your argument that was nothing more then a strawmen, for the record I never stated i'd boycott anyone.
My issue was that you painted everyone that has an issue with the balance of the game, the same bloody way. And if you don't want to understand that, well it wouldn't be out of nature as of now for all your exchanges so far on dakka.

Oh and as an aside, you got what 13 posts, 2 of which are not in this thread, congratz, i guess , you got me troll.

 Arko wrote:
I must have missed those Eldar boycott calls because this is the first time I see this kind of thread.

In any case, calling for a boycott is childish, why punish the players for the errors of a company? That makes no sense at all.

Imagine being a new player, who's happy to play his first games, and being called out, nearly insulted and boycotted because you had the audacity to chose the SM?

What a world we live in

Last week one guy posted in twitch stream, that aeldar have not payed enough for 7th scaterbikes spam.

What a horrific thread, this is as done as a done thing. Please bear in mind in the future that Rule 1 is be polite and it is not optional.