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You could pay $150 for him. Or $145 for this:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/pip37022.html

People may not like that he's $150, but claiming that the model is grossly overpriced is a bit delusional.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
You could pay $150 for him. Or $145 for this:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/pip37022.html

People may not like that he's $150, but claiming that the model is grossly overpriced is a bit delusional.

Because PP big stuff isn't grossly overpriced? When did that judgement come down from above?

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
I personally would rather have the $150 so I can spend it on second hand GW stuff and get twice as many models.

Or save that towards half of a budget resin 3D printer so you can just make and customize all the proxies you want rather than bow to GW's egregious markups. $150. Yikes.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
You could pay $150 for him. Or $145 for this:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/pip37022.html

People may not like that he's $150, but claiming that the model is grossly overpriced is a bit delusional.

I don't like how the silent king looks, but that thing looks lik @#*$.

I’m entirely sure that almost all those things still exist because they are profitable in their own right. WD is pretty bare of original content these days and is a pricey magazine, and tons of people buy it especially over the course of a month. Production costs for it are low, profit for selling it is high, and has the added bonus of advertising their entire ranges simultaneously. Their physical stores exist because they cause more models to be sold (in like 20 different ways). The books are expensive as hell lol they aren’t losing money on these products that they need to ramp up prices on their models to substitute for haha that’s absurd, and I’d like to see any sort of evidence to support this at all other than “well why else would their prices be so high!”.

It’s a lot of money, it concerns me that 40K could become a pay to win game. There’s a lot of talk about balance or lack of it and if you put the silent king on the table is the game balanced enough that a collection of units of equal points could fairly compete against it.

Also pricing young players out of playing certain units is unfair.

40K has never really been a pay to win game its always more been a pay to play game. Plus GW's focus on the hobby side tends to help reinforce that.


The very competitive players who do buy the latest most broken powerarmy tend to swap and flip secondhand arimes more than anything else. So they are often buying models much cheaper because they are secondhand.



Big powerful things have also always had risks with them. You spend a lot on a single model but at the same time its going to cost a lot in points and only takes up one space on the table so can leave you playing harder to secure objectives even if it can obliterate everything that comes in range.

Plus when you consider the points for cost aspects a £100 model that perhaps costs the same in points as three boxes of regular troops at £30 a box isn't really pricing people out. It's the same gross cost for the army, its just a different way to building the army. So instead of saving £30 in three blocks you'd save for longer for a single near £100 purchase.

mrFickle wrote:
It’s a lot of money, it concerns me that 40K could become a pay to win game. There’s a lot of talk about balance or lack of it and if you put the silent king on the table is the game balanced enough that a collection of units of equal points could fairly compete against it.

Also pricing young players out of playing certain units is unfair.

This is a claim that has been brought up since... FW existed probably. And it never turned out to be quite right. The game is pay to win if you want to follow certain tournament metas, which are rarely defined by single expensive models.
In a usual 40K game people put on the table what they like and have fun.

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
You could pay $150 for him. Or $145 for this:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/pip37022.html

People may not like that he's $150, but claiming that the model is grossly overpriced is a bit delusional.

I don't like how the silent king looks, but that thing looks lik @#*$.

I like the Vulcan FWIW... though that was quite deliberate. Yes, let’s pick the one Colossal that deviates quite a bit from the standard Warjack silhouette to try to make some point. Try again with a Conquest or Judicator and see what people’s initial opinions of them are.

PPs minis are overpriced, esp here in the U.K. but that was some biased attempt at a counter example there...

$200 3d printer and $50 of resin will make 3 copies of him. Might not be as detailed though.

It is a one of a kind niche model for a xeno faction - which let's face it isn't GW's attention due to how *mega awesome* primaris are.

Limited numbers of stock will shift as a result...hence, higher price. As opposed to our new Eradicator overlords which will sell a truck load and therefore lower priced.

Now if the Silent King has rules on par with the Super Chicken i.e. Aetos'Rau'Keres, or however you spell it, I would buy that just to see the look of despair on an opponents face - assuming they know what it ca do.

As you said, it’s a model they’re only going to sell at most one of to each Necron player.

But, as a cool looking big model, it’s also of appeal to painters.

It’ll also likely come on anywhere between 3 and 5 sprues. Each sprue is a die needing to be cut for production, further increasing costs.

U.K. price is £90. That’s not too much to my mind, given the size of the model and the likely high number of points he’ll cost.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As you said, it’s a model they’re only going to sell at most one of to each Necron player.

But, as a cool looking big model, it’s also of appeal to painters.

It’ll also likely come on anywhere between 3 and 5 sprues. Each sprue is a die needing to be cut for production, further increasing costs.

U.K. price is £90. That’s not too much to my mind, given the size of the model and the likely high number of points he’ll cost.

He's actually cheaper than a 30 unit troop block of Witch Aelves for Daughters of Khaine (at £35 for 10 per box)

Its a nice model but at that price I'd consider kitbashing my own version. Although its bound to be updated very soon, a Start Collecting kit would make sense for a wealth of components.

As a plan B I'd be happy to use the current Necron Overlord with Warscythe and cannabalize the Annihilation Barge to create his throne display. Not bad for £45, and it could prove to be more practical for the tabletop. Its also ideal if you play against another Necron player who also wishes to field the Silent King.

I'm going to be buying the model later in the year.

Mu plan is to do a conversion and make him into a DJ at a rave. Turntable, headphones on him.
The two guys beside him will be kitted out like chavs and the big stones will become speakers.

I'm planning to stick a raspberry pi in the model and have leds for light and actual sound that can be played.

At the moment it's just in my head, but once I get the model I will be able to plan it out much better

 Overread wrote:
He's actually cheaper than a 30 unit troop block of Witch Aelves for Daughters of Khaine (at £35 for 10 per box)

Also cheaper than 15 banshees !

It's annoying they put the guy on a giant pedestal to make him seem more important, I'm not a fan of models like that. Also, for me it doesn't quite justify greater daemon prices, maybe £10 less? I don't know. If I wanted one in a list and I was definitely going to use it, yeah I'd buy it. Points to pounds ratio still matters, I don't think I could ever justify spending on those grot artillery guns.

To be honest it wouldn't be the price that put me off as much as the flying throne. A bit like daemon chariots, noise marines with guitar guns, ork squig buggies, penitent engines, Space Wolf santa... sometimes the concept is a bit out there for me

Doohicky wrote:
I'm going to be buying the model later in the year.

Mu plan is to do a conversion and make him into a DJ at a rave. Turntable, headphones on him.
The two guys beside him will be kitted out like chavs and the big stones will become speakers.

I'm planning to stick a raspberry pi in the model and have leds for light and actual sound that can be played.

At the moment it's just in my head, but once I get the model I will be able to plan it out much better

That would be incredible to behold. Do it!

 Snake Tortoise wrote:
It's annoying they put the guy on a giant pedestal to make him seem more important, I'm not a fan of models like that. Also, for me it doesn't quite justify greater daemon prices, maybe £10 less? I don't know. If I wanted one in a list and I was definitely going to use it, yeah I'd buy it. Points to pounds ratio still matters, I don't think I could ever justify spending on those grot artillery guns.

To be honest it wouldn't be the price that put me off as much as the flying throne. A bit like daemon chariots, noise marines with guitar guns, ork squig buggies, penitent engines, Space Wolf santa... sometimes the concept is a bit out there for me

I find I enjoy 40k a lot more when I accept that 40k is supposed to be a bit silly.

I think some folks could do with reading the definition of "luxury good" and "discretionary spending". Also likely the basics of market economics.

If people are willing to spend 150$ on him (I am), then he's worth it.

PP is actually a really great example. Not long ago people were clamoring for the new faction. But it certainly feels like interest has waned some in the game. And that leaves the value of the model in doubt.

bored1 wrote:
I think some folks could do with reading the definition of "luxury good" and "discretionary spending". Also likely the basics of market economics.

If people are willing to spend 150$ on him (I am), then he's worth it.

PP is actually a really great example. Not long ago people were clamoring for the new faction. But it certainly feels like interest has waned some in the game. And that leaves the value of the model in doubt.

This is always a issue, How much something like this is worth is up to mostly the buyers. Also is he as big as a colossul from warmachine ? He looks a bit smaller unless he is bigger than any normal lord standing up there.

Grimlineman wrote:
As a long time Necron player I have to say they priced me out of the silent king. 150 dollars for a single plastic kit (throne better be gold plated for that price) way to expensive in my mind. And this comes from someone who’s in mid life with a well paying career. I applaud them on the other kits though they are priced lower than I expected they would be with new price structure.

So do you think 150 dollars is fair? I understand he is the show piece of the army. The big leader if you will but what’s next 200 dollars for a main character?

I think it's fair. It's a fairly beefy kit, with some extra bits and so on. I assume the 150$ is because most people will only need to buy one of them, unlike most other kits that you would buy multiples of. Since he is also locked to a specific dynasty, that will further draw down the number of people who will want to buy one. Add in the people who simply won't pay that price and factor out how many people play marines vs zenos vs necrons specifically and I would guess you'll see sales of the SK being very low hence the higher price tag.

Honestly that model is beautiful and it's also like 3 models in one, even the Monuments next to him have more detail than some figures still on the range. I'm Australian and I don't think any GW prices are fair, but I expect this one is about accurate with the price of the rest of their range.

If you accept Abaddon at $60 US as fair. . . then I suppose the Silent King is . . .

 Eihnlazer wrote:
$200 3d printer and $50 of resin will make 3 copies of him. Might not be as detailed though.

That'll teach you to cheap out on the printer.



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 Overread wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As you said, it’s a model they’re only going to sell at most one of to each Necron player.

But, as a cool looking big model, it’s also of appeal to painters.

It’ll also likely come on anywhere between 3 and 5 sprues. Each sprue is a die needing to be cut for production, further increasing costs.

U.K. price is £90. That’s not too much to my mind, given the size of the model and the likely high number of points he’ll cost.

He's actually cheaper than a 30 unit troop block of Witch Aelves for Daughters of Khaine (at £35 for 10 per box)

This is true. However, unlike those Wyches, he doesn't do anything for my DoK army....

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

mrFickle wrote:
It’s a lot of money, it concerns me that 40K could become a pay to win game. There’s a lot of talk about balance or lack of it and if you put the silent king on the table is the game balanced enough that a collection of units of equal points could fairly compete against it.

Also pricing young players out of playing certain units is unfair.

This is a claim that has been brought up since... FW existed probably. And it never turned out to be quite right. The game is pay to win if you want to follow certain tournament metas, which are rarely defined by single expensive models.
In a usual 40K game people put on the table what they like and have fun.

The game is certainly pay to win, but the amount you have to pay to win reliably is so unreasonable that most people certainly don't bother. The meta shifts like every few months, if you're chasing it hard, like top tourney players, you're shelling for new kits every 3 to 4 months, and a new army every year or so. The people who do this at a competitive level tend to find ways to get it cheaper because, well, you kinda have to.

SamusDrake wrote:

Doohicky wrote:
I'm going to be buying the model later in the year.

Mu plan is to do a conversion and make him into a DJ at a rave. Turntable, headphones on him.
The two guys beside him will be kitted out like chavs and the big stones will become speakers.

I'm planning to stick a raspberry pi in the model and have leds for light and actual sound that can be played.

At the moment it's just in my head, but once I get the model I will be able to plan it out much better

That would be incredible to behold. Do it!

Seconded! Please do this, and please blog it here!

Crispy78 wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

Doohicky wrote:
I'm going to be buying the model later in the year.

Mu plan is to do a conversion and make him into a DJ at a rave. Turntable, headphones on him.
The two guys beside him will be kitted out like chavs and the big stones will become speakers.

I'm planning to stick a raspberry pi in the model and have leds for light and actual sound that can be played.

At the moment it's just in my head, but once I get the model I will be able to plan it out much better

That would be incredible to behold. Do it!

Seconded! Please do this, and please blog it here!

It will be a long way off. But I will definitely post up how it goes when I do it

Good man!

Doohicky wrote:

Crispy78 wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

Doohicky wrote:
I'm going to be buying the model later in the year.

Mu plan is to do a conversion and make him into a DJ at a rave. Turntable, headphones on him.
The two guys beside him will be kitted out like chavs and the big stones will become speakers.

I'm planning to stick a raspberry pi in the model and have leds for light and actual sound that can be played.

At the moment it's just in my head, but once I get the model I will be able to plan it out much better

That would be incredible to behold. Do it!

Seconded! Please do this, and please blog it here!

It will be a long way off. But I will definitely post up how it goes when I do it

You need to make this priority #1