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Hey all

Back in 2nd edition, when I first picked up an actual rules set for 40k, I had the starter set and, eventually, all the codices that got published for 2nd edition. In the Ultramarines and Dark Angels/Blood Angels codices they had organisational charts, showing the structure of the chapter, and the breakdown of a company.

I.e. 1st company were all terminators. 2nd company, in the case of Dark Angels were Ravenwing, on bikes and land speeders. 3rd company was comprised of 6 tactical squads, 2 assault squads, and 2 devastator squads. Along with associated vehicles like dreadnoughts/landraiders/rhinos/razorbacks, although they never stated how many of each vehicle, that I'm aware of.

Recently I've been considering "refreshing" my Dark Angels army. I basically have, the 3rd company minus a devastator squad, some Deathwing and some Ravenwing.

I'd like to buy Primaris marines, for my sins, and much against my bank managers advice, to replace my "3rd company" foot troops, because they're all at least 20 years old and not very well painted, for starters.

However I've never seen any sort of organisation chart describing how the Primaris marines fit into chapters, I may have overlooked them if GW have ever published any, because I admit to not having read recent "fluff" - I usually skip straight to the rules in a codex.

Does anyone know how Primaris marines are organised within chapters? Do they have their own companies for example?

Thanks in advance.

It varies wildly based upon the Chapters.

The only one that really is 'known' is the Vanguard Company--which is part of the 10th in some of the Codex-adherent Chapters. It's basically a standing force of infiltration, sabotage, and shock assault/assassination specialists coupled with the Scouts of the Chapter.

basicly the orginization is the same, with some more flex added. basicly it's 60 "line troops" (orginized in 5 or 10 man squads) 20 Fire support troops amd 20 close support troops.

these can take on any mix of units you like. the primaris Break down are:


Line troops:
Intercessors,
Infiltrators

Close Support Troops:
Reivers,
Incursors
Inceptors
Assault Intercessors
Outriders


Fire Support:
Hellblasters
Aggressors
Eradicators
Eliminators,
Supressors


we can't say for 100% sure where the new heavy intercessors will fall but I expect they'll be classed as fire support.

Rob Lee wrote:

I'd like to buy Primaris marines, for my sins, and much against my bank managers advice, to replace my "3rd company" foot troops, because they're all at least 20 years old and not very well painted, for starters.

However I've never seen any sort of organisation chart describing how the Primaris marines fit into chapters, I may have overlooked them if GW have ever published any, because I admit to not having read recent "fluff" - I usually skip straight to the rules in a codex.

This is all in the Codex. Battle Companies now consist of 6 Battleline Units(Tactical Squads, Intercessors, Heavy Intercessors, and Infiltrators), 2 Close Support Squads(Assault Squads, Intercessor Assault Squads, Reivers, Incursors, Inceptors, Centurion Assault Squads, Bikes, Land Speeders), and 2 Fire Support Squads(Devastators, Hellblasters, Aggressors, Eradicators, Eliminators, Suppressors, Centurion Devastators). For the Reserve Companies, replace any instance of Tactical Squad with Battleline, Asssault/bike/landspeeder with Close Support, and Devastator with Fire Support.



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BrianDavion wrote:

we can't say for 100% sure where the new heavy intercessors will fall but I expect they'll be classed as fire support.

Heavy Intercessors have the Battleline emblem on their shoulders.

Thanks guys. I did notice a short while after posting this, whilst flicking through the Dark Angels codex, that they've now changed the organisation chart to say battleline, fire support and close support.

Still had trouble working out what unit counts for which of the 3 types though, but you guys have cleared that up.

I didn't pay attention to the Ultrasmurfs Primaris shoulder pad markings of an arrow for troops, i.e. battleline, the crossed double ended arrows for assault, i.e. close support, and the triangle for heavy support, i.e. fire support. Dark Angels OG marines used a similar set of markings, so I guess they'd be the same on Dark Angels Primaris.

Does make it easier when you realise that system is being used on Primaris as well as the OG marines.

Thanks.

Rob Lee wrote:
I didn't pay attention to the Ultrasmurfs Primaris shoulder pad markings of an arrow for troops, i.e. battleline, the crossed double ended arrows for assault, i.e. close support, and the triangle for heavy support, i.e. fire support. Dark Angels OG marines used a similar set of markings, so I guess they'd be the same on Dark Angels Primaris.

Correct. Primaris Battleline bear the double ended arrows, Close Support the X arrows, and Fire Support the explosion. They also still bear the Company marking on the left knee pad.