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 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some official art. Wonder if there will be a limit for how many aliens you could include?

Jeeesus.. It’s like I looked up “bland” in the dictionary.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
To quote Northstar: ''Stargrave. Next to Oathmark, this will be our biggest release of the year. Joseph McCullough's sci-fi version of Frostgrave, with multiple plastic kits to support it.''

What is this strange feeling in my breast?

Is it hope?

No, it is post-Christmas and your heart has just grown 3 sizes too large!

I am sure I am not the only one interested to see what they come up with. It will be nice to get some "sci-fi adventurer" style kits out there. Otherwise, the Maelstrom Edge Remnants are pretty good kits too.

Maybe they will partner with Palladium so the models can have so many parts and be like old Star Trek. Regular humanoid head, but dozens of “alien” face applications so you can have all the options

 Theophony wrote:
Maybe they will partner with Palladium so the models can have so many parts and be like old Star Trek. Regular humanoid head, but dozens of “alien” face applications so you can have all the options

I like it. The complexity of a bandai kit with the detail of gumball machine toys accompanied by rules more antiquated than including DIP switch diagrams for programming an early VCR with a chromecast streaming device. This is the (Palladium) way.

 warboss wrote:

I like it. The complexity of a bandai kit with the detail of gumball machine toys accompanied by rules more antiquated than including DIP switch diagrams for programming an early VCR with a chromecast streaming device. This is the (Palladium) way.

You forgot about the chronic fiscal irresponsibility, if not outright malfeasance.

 warboss wrote:
I like it. The complexity of a bandai kit with the detail of gumball machine toys accompanied by rules more antiquated than including DIP switch diagrams for programming an early VCR with a chromecast streaming device. This is the (Palladium) way.

Sounds rather modern. And far too ordered. Add more chaos and a dwindling fan base that pretty much consists of yes men convincing Uncle Kevo that he’s the second coming of gaming. All others have been chased away or left in disgust

http://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.com/2021/01/stargrave-preparing-pirates.html

AFAICT from the sounds of it, the longer a game lasts, NPCs show up in greater degrees of toughness to attack players.

This could be very thematic in a cyberpunk system, not too sure how I feel about it in scifi, where urban environment is just one of the possibilities. To my doubts the author has confirmed there is a separate random encounter table, but I wonder weather the "Unwanted Attention" rule won't speed the game up just because no one will want the added frustration of the endless waves of mooks in their game.

I guess the true clock is players calling it quits when resolving the mooks starts taking longer than resolving their own warbands.

Cannot wait to see those plastic boxes for pirates to check what options are available.

I think this IS a cool mechanic, however I'm not certain this should be in every mission.

Reminds me of Corespace and a little of Silent Death. At least fluff wise.

 Sledgehammer wrote:
I think this IS a cool mechanic, however I'm not certain this should be in every mission.

Agreed, space is BIG. Just because there is salvage in a spot does not mean the pirates are hanging around in scanner range and a quick jump/thrust/warp away.

One can always house rule stuff if necessary, but it's early days yet. Need to see the exact rules first.

Re: Silent Death. Right, the Night Brood, and the fall of the Terran Empire thanks to the idiocy of the last Emperor. [For those who have not played Silent Death, the Emperor used nukes on a large mass of the brood . This appeared to be a great victory, but soon all the brood within a certain range converged on Earth and all major population centers in human space. The Empire was destroyed and there are only scattered powers left. There are fleets and entire worlds that are salvage targets (including the Solar System, but the brood are extremely numerous there). However, the brood is still around, just hibernating, and if there is too much violence near them, they wake. I don't remember if there is a similar clock mechanism in Silent Death, or the waking is just fluff.

Silent Death is a good fighter combat system (if anybody is looking for one), although they are adding bigger ships now. There is an associated minis line. Indeed, some of the generic plastic fighters being sold online were originally sculpted for Silent Death when the late Iron Crown Enterprises added plastic fighters to their line.

First look at Stargrave plastics

https://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.com/2021/01/stargrave-plastic-figure-reveal.html

While being exactly what I hoped for they manage to somehow underwhelm.

Once again; how does one make Sci-fi so unappealing?

I think the pastelly paint jobs, while technically well-executed, might not be ideal for sci fi. Still, I'm stoked, looking forward to seeing the mercs and pirates

 lord_blackfang wrote:
First look at Stargrave plastics

https://therenaissancetroll.blogspot.com/2021/01/stargrave-plastic-figure-reveal.html

While being exactly what I hoped for they manage to somehow underwhelm.

IMHO, it’s pretty damn good for 15mm sculpts.

I laughed at this, but then remembered all the 15mm sculpts that are better ...

Look alright to me. Not too exciting, but not bad. Versatile.

Most interesting part is that there will be 3 different plastic sets at launch - that's a pretty big deal, with previous (Frostgrave) books only having one with each supplement.

"We’ve got three boxes lined up for starters – Crew, Mercs, and Troopers. Each box will give you enough bits for 20 figures, with plenty of options for kitting out your crew."

Good lord, they're going to sell a bazillion of these kits. Generic plastic scifi dudes that are all interchangeable has been on every scifi skirmish gamer's wishlist since the 1990's

They do not have integral bases. I wonder if this will be a new standard for all future Northstar kits?

They've got a very 1990s sci-fi look to them. Not my thing, but could be many other people's thing.

The sculpts aren't great, but neither were most of the Frostgrave sets and those really enchanted people.

I think they'll do well.

More realistic paintjob and more sci-fi gubbins bolted on to the guns and I think they'd look like fairly convincing Star Wars characters. Classic 70s/80s star wars anyway, not so much the newer stuff. Not elaborate enough.



If they do metal figures too (and North Star normally do) I wonder if they'll have integral stands, if so that'll look a bit inconsistent

 judgedoug wrote:
"We’ve got three boxes lined up for starters – Crew, Mercs, and Troopers. Each box will give you enough bits for 20 figures, with plenty of options for kitting out your crew."

Good lord, they're going to sell a bazillion of these kits. Generic plastic scifi dudes that are all interchangeable has been on every scifi skirmish gamer's wishlist since the 1990's

Yeah, goodness knows what the sprue layouts will be like. Hopefully tons of options. These’ll be picked up for all sorts of games and rpgs.

Nice simple models and quick to paint

I love the simplicity of them. If you want extra details you can add them, but if you want to just use Contrast paints and/or drybrushing it looks like you'll get a great effect.

I wish I was more of a fan, if only because Northstar distributes widely enough that these will be available locally.

The human figures look OK, but the aliens are not in a style I am a fan of. Maybe with a very different paint job? But the posing also seems poor on the cyclops dude, I hope that is not a common pose because it looks really bad. Look at his hands on the gun, not great.

Will have to see more. I was not blown away by the first frostgrave sets, but they have grown on me and now I basically have one of each of all the sets, so there's obviously something in it!

Part of the strength of the Frostgrave figures is the number and variety of weapons and accessories. I hope for the same in these, including non-weapon equipment like tools, handheld computers and techy gubbins etc.

 bbb wrote:
I love the simplicity of them. If you want extra details you can add them, but if you want to just use Contrast paints and/or drybrushing it looks like you'll get a great effect.

Only, yaknow, sculpting details is more difficult, than scraping them of. And it’s a bit hard to paint around these... sculpts.

If the sculpt is simple, it’s not good or bad in it of itself, but it must at least have style. These figurines border on green army men minus the flash and mould lines.

Original necromunda minis are superior.

Well, at the very least they look like they'll be great for RPGs, more "regular" people in Necromunda and similar games...

They look quite useful as is. And will probably shine with 3d printed gubbins like heads, alternate arms and the like.

Pics for the lazy or work blocked.