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I just picked up my first impulsor last week and I suddenly started seeing people say "the Impulsor is dead!" which I presume to be related to its shield dome and the loss of its grav wave.

Now the real question is what is the best kind of set up for using an Impulsor in 9th edition? Go cheap? Have fun with Comm arrays? Missile fun times? Truck around some assault intercessors?

I actually like the model and I really want to see it in my games. Plus that bugger is expensive compared to something like a rhino!

Or should I just have some fun and dust off my Repulsor and fill it with Eradicators?

I use mine as a way to catapult my bladeguard to the center of the table.

 generalchaos34 wrote:
I just picked up my first impulsor last week and I suddenly started seeing people say "the Impulsor is dead!" which I presume to be related to its shield dome and the loss of its grav wave.

Now the real question is what is the best kind of set up for using an Impulsor in 9th edition? Go cheap? Have fun with Comm arrays? Missile fun times? Truck around some assault intercessors?

I actually like the model and I really want to see it in my games. Plus that bugger is expensive compared to something like a rhino!

Or should I just have some fun and dust off my Repulsor and fill it with Eradicators?

You can't fill it with eradicators.

SecondTime wrote:

 generalchaos34 wrote:
I just picked up my first impulsor last week and I suddenly started seeing people say "the Impulsor is dead!" which I presume to be related to its shield dome and the loss of its grav wave.

Now the real question is what is the best kind of set up for using an Impulsor in 9th edition? Go cheap? Have fun with Comm arrays? Missile fun times? Truck around some assault intercessors?

I actually like the model and I really want to see it in my games. Plus that bugger is expensive compared to something like a rhino!

Or should I just have some fun and dust off my Repulsor and fill it with Eradicators?

You can't fill it with eradicators.

You can put 5 eradicators in a Repulsor.

Sorry was stuck on impulsor.

SecondTime wrote:
Sorry was stuck on impulsor.

Well they didn't exactly try to make it easy to tell the names apart.

That being clarified, is it a good idea to shell out for a repulsor to carry eradicators? The eradicators are almost better off as a punching bag for the enemy, right?

The Salt Mine wrote:
I use mine as a way to catapult my bladeguard to the center of the table.

I'm going to buy one literally to make a Bladeguard Bomb

Similar to TH/SS Terminators in a Land Raider in 3rd-6th that was common to see. Basically move out and delete a unit

It's not that durable but on the right terrain it's great. That and the IH + 6+ other Dreads taking target priority while it sits in deployment behind a building as a counter unit for deepstrikers

 Stevefamine wrote:

The Salt Mine wrote:
I use mine as a way to catapult my bladeguard to the center of the table.

I'm going to buy one literally to make a Bladeguard Bomb

Similar to TH/SS Terminators in a Land Raider in 3rd-6th that was common to see. Basically move out and delete a unit

I don't really use mine as a killy unit. I send them out with the new apothecary to take center objectives and sit in the center of the board. With transhuman, 2+ 4++ 6+++ saves, and the new chief apothecary healing and resurrecting models they are a tough nut to dislodge.

The impulsor allows them to get there with a 14in move they can then disembark 3in, move 6in, and if needed advance a d6in.

Rather than worry about what others have to say about it, I think you should magnetize the options, field each version a few times, & see wich version suites you best.

ccs wrote:
Rather than worry about what others have to say about it, I think you should magnetize the options, field each version a few times, & see wich version suites you best.

That was the idea for magnetization (thankfully only the missiles/Icarus, and stormbolters are always a good choice) I just have zero experience playing with or against them and games aren't exactly something we have in abundance around here.

The 5++ still has a lot of value, I think. Lots of high STR weapons have more than 2 AP that they rely on.

It’s the myriad of S5 -2 you’ll miss the 4+ Inv for.

I think impulsor got nerfed down to 5++.

SecondTime wrote:
I think impulsor got nerfed down to 5++.

I dont remember....BUT they seem to have forgotten to fix that on the App!

SecondTime wrote:
I think impulsor got nerfed down to 5++.

You are correct.

I feel like Assault Intercessors are still a good fit for the Impulsor... get your Troops up front and centre fast to take objectives and, yes, hopefully get the charge a turn earlier too. As with all vehicles, taking one is too much of a juicy target so the way to mitigate this is to actually take multiple targets for your opponent's anti-tank. With that approach, multiple cheap Impulsors is the way to go, no real need to trick them out.

Once they're done with that role - or even before, if you're worried about them being taken out and screwing the units inside - you can push them forward first to act as cover for other units, by blocking line of sight to them. You could also try throwing them into units that don't have much combat punch to stop them from shooting at anything, and/or forcing them into a fall back. This is going to be a rare situation though as you're typically going to need a gap in your opponent's assault units to reach them, or to go around those units first.

Note that it's not a good idea to throw them at assault units that can happily take them out in one go, as you won't slow them down - instead they get to pile in and then consolidate so they actually start their turn much closer to you!!

SecondTime wrote:
That being clarified, is it a good idea to shell out for a repulsor to carry eradicators? The eradicators are almost better off as a punching bag for the enemy, right?

Save yourself 300 points and just roll a dice at the start of the game for each eradicator you would have put into it and kill an eradicator for every '1'.

ERJAK wrote:

SecondTime wrote:
That being clarified, is it a good idea to shell out for a repulsor to carry eradicators? The eradicators are almost better off as a punching bag for the enemy, right?

Save yourself 300 points and just roll a dice at the start of the game for each eradicator you would have put into it and kill an eradicator for every '1'.

Yeah that transport rule SUCKS for marines.

If you compare the Impulsor with all the bolters and stubbers against the Invader ATV or Storm Speeder Hailstrike, it doesn't come off too badly as a cheap mobile gun platform (tougher, similar speed and number of shots, but no S5).

Sticking any cheap obsec infantry inside will be fine for bullying objectives, assault intercessors are an obvious choice who want to be transported and will appreciate the back up firepower, but remember that the assault vehicle rule will favour a shooting oriented unit, so you might get some good results dropping regular intercessors directly on an objective and just blasting away (3 stubbers, 2 storm bolters, 5 auto rifles, grenade launcher = 35+D6 shots).

I've used it with assault hellblasters and liked how it works. gonna try bladeguard w either chaplain or lieutenant

people are saying the impulsor is dead mostly because it's not criminally under costed, it's still a solid platform to get primaris marines from point a to point b

I would say despite the nerfs, the Impulsor has never been better. The biggest issue it had when it was an amazing datasheet was it didn't really have anything worth transporting so that amazing datasheet was kinda waste (even if almost every other faction would have given half the Ork teef in the galaxy to have it in their army). However, now I can think of a decent number of things that I might want to stick in an Impulsor even if it is less survivable and can't cover as much ground. Besides, with 9th edition's changes to rules an offloaded Impulsor is a smidge more worthwhile.

Since you have the model, give it a spin on the tabletop. The roof options don't have to be glued on as the dome will just sit in the recess, and the missile and stubber options can press fit into the housing (though you do have to decide on one or the other back panel. The side bolters/grenade launchers do need magnets if you want to change them out though. I haven't fielded mine yet as Covid basically halted my gaming by the time I got mine painted well enough that I will field it. That said, I for non-optimized games, I don't see the Impulsor as a unit that could ruin an army list.

BrianDavion wrote:
people are saying the impulsor is dead mostly because it's not criminally under costed, it's still a solid platform to get primaris marines from point a to point b

It was once the marine equivalent to Eldar Wave Serpent. Not anymore now.

Yeah, no matter what its still the platform for moving obsec infantry units upfield to take objectives. If you're using primaris, its pretty much the only viable way to do that (repulsors are way too much for that job).

Its also good for bladeguard, unless you're somehow using them as a counterstrike unit against enemies that conveniently run up and attack them.

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I would say despite the nerfs, the Impulsor has never been better. The biggest issue it had when it was an amazing datasheet was it didn't really have anything worth transporting so that amazing datasheet was kinda waste (even if almost every other faction would have given half the Ork teef in the galaxy to have it in their army). However, now I can think of a decent number of things that I might want to stick in an Impulsor even if it is less survivable and can't cover as much ground. Besides, with 9th edition's changes to rules an offloaded Impulsor is a smidge more worthwhile.

Since you have the model, give it a spin on the tabletop. The roof options don't have to be glued on as the dome will just sit in the recess, and the missile and stubber options can press fit into the housing (though you do have to decide on one or the other back panel. The side bolters/grenade launchers do need magnets if you want to change them out though. I haven't fielded mine yet as Covid basically halted my gaming by the time I got mine painted well enough that I will field it. That said, I for non-optimized games, I don't see the Impulsor as a unit that could ruin an army list.

It won't cover that many ground as you would think about anymore, it losses "fly", and with the density of terrain in 9th edition, it will have very few routes to get up front to deliver its assault cargos close to enemy, and they can now been eadily screened out when enemy place a few chaff units at choke points. So unless you play on a table with only a few Ruins, the Impulsor sucks.

BrianDavion wrote:
people are saying the impulsor is dead mostly because it's not criminally under costed, it's still a solid platform to get primaris marines from point a to point b

I've maintained transporting in and of itself is a generally bad idea. You're giving up X turns of opportunity from the transported unit in addition to paying points for the transport. Say you're making a Bladeguard Bomb. 3 Vets, the Cap, LT, and Ancient. You're paying 120 points +/- for the Impulsor, and you're also "paying" 77 points per turn you're transporting the Bladeguard bomb because they can't assault when they jump out so they're not doing anything you paid to have them for.


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 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I would say despite the nerfs, the Impulsor has never been better. The biggest issue it had when it was an amazing datasheet was it didn't really have anything worth transporting so that amazing datasheet was kinda waste (even if almost every other faction would have given half the Ork teef in the galaxy to have it in their army). However, now I can think of a decent number of things that I might want to stick in an Impulsor even if it is less survivable and can't cover as much ground. Besides, with 9th edition's changes to rules an offloaded Impulsor is a smidge more worthwhile.

Since you have the model, give it a spin on the tabletop. The roof options don't have to be glued on as the dome will just sit in the recess, and the missile and stubber options can press fit into the housing (though you do have to decide on one or the other back panel. The side bolters/grenade launchers do need magnets if you want to change them out though. I haven't fielded mine yet as Covid basically halted my gaming by the time I got mine painted well enough that I will field it. That said, I for non-optimized games, I don't see the Impulsor as a unit that could ruin an army list.

I glued a bar magnet inside each side of the housing, and used some rubberized steel sheets left over from Fantasy movement trays to magnetize the end caps.

They can assault the turn they get out provided they get out before the Impulsor moves. So just like a normal transport. Which might not be super exciting, but you still have much more protection than not having the transport, and you dont sacrifice any mobility compared to not having it.

 Stux wrote:
They can assault the turn they get out provided they get out before the Impulsor moves. So just like a normal transport. Which might not be super exciting, but you still have much more protection than not having the transport, and you dont sacrifice any mobility compared to not having it.

This is how I see it. Instead of losing a turn's use, you're getting 6" of "free" movement out of that first turn for units that want to get up close.

Neophyte2012 wrote:

 Saturmorn Carvilli wrote:
I would say despite the nerfs, the Impulsor has never been better. The biggest issue it had when it was an amazing datasheet was it didn't really have anything worth transporting so that amazing datasheet was kinda waste (even if almost every other faction would have given half the Ork teef in the galaxy to have it in their army). However, now I can think of a decent number of things that I might want to stick in an Impulsor even if it is less survivable and can't cover as much ground. Besides, with 9th edition's changes to rules an offloaded Impulsor is a smidge more worthwhile.

It won't cover that many ground as you would think about anymore, it losses "fly", and with the density of terrain in 9th edition, it will have very few routes to get up front to deliver its assault cargos close to enemy, and they can now been eadily screened out when enemy place a few chaff units at choke points. So unless you play on a table with only a few Ruins, the Impulsor sucks.

Well I think it will cover 2" more ground than a Rhino. Which I also think is a decent transport. I didn't need Fly on my Impulsor. I needed units worth transporting with it. Which I think Primaris now have beyond maybe Hellblasters.

I suppose you'd have a point if all my army consisted of was the Impulsor and the infantry it carries. But my army does have other elements within it, and they are quite good at dealing with chaff. If the table is so choked with terrain that game becomes rattenkrieg that only makes Primaris army stronger more so for every vehicle my opponent brought. But I seriously think you over estimate how much table a can chaff can actually control unanswered.