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I mean why don’t they take over ork, eldar, kroot, squat or other alien civilisations?
   
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Mainly because humans are all over the place. Ork hybrids exist but their models are now OOP. Eldar hybrids are incredibly rare, and Kroot hybrids are detected & killed by 'normal' Kroot. Don't think Squads have ever been mentioned, and T'au hybrids are in a couple of novels.
   
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There are other hybrids.

Since almost every planet featured in the background is under Imperial control, however, the focus is on human hybrids.
   
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mrFickle wrote:
I mean why don’t they take over ork, eldar, kroot, squat or other alien civilisations?


They do - just not as often appearing in the lore.

They are specific lore examples of Ork, Tau and Eldar GSCs

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Do you mean in the lore, or as models?

In the lore there are othets infested. There are some fun infestions of Tau. Necrons and nids can not be infested. In ork cultures they are to violent for gsc to really thrive. Gsc usualy needs generations, orks live to fight so you see how that goes. Heaven knows how you get 4th geberation spores.

They can infect eldars but the eldars take very long to get new generations. Eldars also tend to sence that something is wrong. Space Marines varies in the novels. One felt the GSC atempting to take over and fought back.

Kroots, vespids others I really can not say. When it comes to humans the way the imperium is build up in a facist regine with little love for the common man it is ripe for GSC.

When it comes to models it is vert easy to do the miner humans theme for them. They even have miner weapons profiles. There are probably GSC pirates out there. Could be a cool army. But that is not how the rules are representing them.

   
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The same reason why all genestealer cultists are miners: Because GW only starts mentioning a thing when they specifically make a model for it.

That's it. It's not complicated really.

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Mainly because humans are more or less the ideal hosts for GSC, being so widespread and the main focus of the setting, so while there are definitely GSC amongst other races, most of them are likely of minor xenos factions that don't warrant representation with models and so you don't hear about them.
   
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There's one Eldar book where it turns out the locals turned into Hybrids so as to avoid having their souls swallowed by Slaanesh. Decent enough read. Shows that it's certainly possible.


 
   
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It may be a priority target. As others have said, humans have the reach/spread, and the pressure or the other races keeps them busy and perhaps less able to focus on the tyranids. Once the humans are taken down, the rest may be deemed as easy follow up
   
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 RegularGuy wrote:
It may be a priority target. As others have said, humans have the reach/spread, and the pressure or the other races keeps them busy and perhaps less able to focus on the tyranids. Once the humans are taken down, the rest may be deemed as easy follow up


Humans also have a relatively rapid year round active breeding cycle to exploit.

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Didn’t realise there was such an easy answer to the question!

I’ll have to google ork OOP genestealer hybrids
   
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It's also because basically every other faction besides the IoM is smart enough to find genestealer cults and deal with them. Even orks.
   
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While there are examples of Oks and Eldar genestealers hybrids, they are very rare since both those race are very good at spotting the hybrids.

Eldars are all psykers and their entire tech is psychic based. They can thus detect the "alieness" of the genetealer very easily. Dark Eldars no longer are highly psychic since they are self repressed, but they rarely reproduce sexually making the spread difficult. They are also master of gene modification so probably have a cure to it too. The fact that Eldars are rare and reproduce very slowly doesn't make the spread of a genestealer cult easy within their society. At best, you'll have a few infected individual who would be forced to flee Eldar society and maybe attempt to breed with another kind of hybrid.

Orks, while very numerous, also have a gestal psychic talent and can also know when something isn't "orky" enough and those things they kill. Orks also have a radically different reproduction system.

T'au reproduce by cast and according to a very specific and controlled fashion making the spread of the cult difficult and Necrons are basically living robots.

Humans ae numerous reproduce anarchically and quickly, live in society that are easy to infiltrate and represent the greatest threat and resources to the Nids. That's why they are the most common and mining guilds, private enforcers and industrial workers are their most common target due to their ubiquitousness and their ease of access to weapons and heavy equipment. .
   
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epronovost wrote:
While there are examples of Oks and Eldar genestealers hybrids, they are very rare since both those race are very good at spotting the hybrids.

Eldars are all psykers and their entire tech is psychic based. They can thus detect the "alieness" of the genetealer very easily. Dark Eldars no longer are highly psychic since they are self repressed, but they rarely reproduce sexually making the spread difficult. They are also master of gene modification so probably have a cure to it too. The fact that Eldars are rare and reproduce very slowly doesn't make the spread of a genestealer cult easy within their society. At best, you'll have a few infected individual who would be forced to flee Eldar society and maybe attempt to breed with another kind of hybrid.

Orks, while very numerous, also have a gestal psychic talent and can also know when something isn't "orky" enough and those things they kill. Orks also have a radically different reproduction system.

T'au reproduce by cast and according to a very specific and controlled fashion making the spread of the cult difficult and Necrons are basically living robots.

Humans ae numerous reproduce anarchically and quickly, live in society that are easy to infiltrate and represent the greatest threat and resources to the Nids. That's why they are the most common and mining guilds, private enforcers and industrial workers are their most common target due to their ubiquitousness and their ease of access to weapons and heavy equipment. .


It's noted, though, that even humans in Tau space don't really have genestealer cults - because the Tau are good at detecting it *in humans* and curing it. So it's not a matter of species, really - it's a matter of the Imperium of Man being a corrupt, bloated bureaucracy run by degenerate nobles who couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map.
   
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Hecaton wrote:
epronovost wrote:
While there are examples of Oks and Eldar genestealers hybrids, they are very rare since both those race are very good at spotting the hybrids.

Eldars are all psykers and their entire tech is psychic based. They can thus detect the "alieness" of the genetealer very easily. Dark Eldars no longer are highly psychic since they are self repressed, but they rarely reproduce sexually making the spread difficult. They are also master of gene modification so probably have a cure to it too. The fact that Eldars are rare and reproduce very slowly doesn't make the spread of a genestealer cult easy within their society. At best, you'll have a few infected individual who would be forced to flee Eldar society and maybe attempt to breed with another kind of hybrid.

Orks, while very numerous, also have a gestal psychic talent and can also know when something isn't "orky" enough and those things they kill. Orks also have a radically different reproduction system.

T'au reproduce by cast and according to a very specific and controlled fashion making the spread of the cult difficult and Necrons are basically living robots.

Humans ae numerous reproduce anarchically and quickly, live in society that are easy to infiltrate and represent the greatest threat and resources to the Nids. That's why they are the most common and mining guilds, private enforcers and industrial workers are their most common target due to their ubiquitousness and their ease of access to weapons and heavy equipment. .


It's noted, though, that even humans in Tau space don't really have genestealer cults - because the Tau are good at detecting it *in humans* and curing it. So it's not a matter of species, really - it's a matter of the Imperium of Man being a corrupt, bloated bureaucracy run by degenerate nobles who couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map.


Nah. that's just the typical Tau bull$%^& coming into play.

There's someone in the Studio whose job appears to be applying handwavium to any potential issue the Tau might have. It gets old very, very fast.

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Nah. that's just the typical Tau bull$%^& coming into play.

There's someone in the Studio whose job appears to be applying handwavium to any potential issue the Tau might have. It gets old very, very fast.


It makes sense, though, because the Tau actually innovate technology, that they'd develop a technological solution to the problem. The AdMech focus on unearthing lost technology, not developing new stuff, and so wouldn't have a good solution to a species that's a relative galactic newcomer (genestealers).

The Eldar have similar solutions. It's not that the Tau are bs, the Imperium is just full of superstitious, backwards idiots.
   
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The tau totally have genestealer cults.
There's the fun case where the tau captured a genestealer, and decided to experiment and see what would happen if they infected themselves with it.
The research labs inevitably were taken over and soon enough a planetwide insurgency sparked off a 10 year civil war and quarantine of the sept world.
At the end of which an 'eccentric' ethereal with a dubious name announced the planet was 'productive and clean'. Clearly no more cult activity here.

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Humans are ideal hosts.

We breed frequently and reliably. We live in vast numbers on Hive Worlds. We have an archaic command structure ideal for their purposes. Most of all, we’re widespread.

Compare to Tau. Their strict Caste System strictly limits the potential of a Cult.

Eldar? They barely breed. It’s also possible that due to consistent psychic ability, they find it easier to spot the infiltration and hybrids.

Orks? Originally they could just tell Hybrids weren’t proper Orks, leading to them being shunned. And in that take, Orks only bred at the end of their life cycle, further curtailing the cult’s growth. In the new background, Orks reproduce by emitting spores. Less than ideal for a would-be cult.

So other types of Hybrids inherently exist, it’s just that humanity are the preferred eco-system.

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Eldar and Dark Eldar have very small populations (on a galactic scale) and those that they have are often on either heavily guarded worlds and/or craftworkd ships. So there's far less scope for Genestealers to sneak into their society and infiltrate them; and even harder to do so undetected for a prolonged period of time to start building a cult.

Tau are even smaller, they are a pin-prick so even if they get invested its going to be a very rare event. Plus they are unlikely to be exploring space like the Imperium so are far less likely to run across space hulks and the like.



Humanity is far more easily infested. They have a vast population that spreads over the galaxy; they aren't hiding or shy about their populations and within their populations there are ample segments of society which are basically ignored. In fact the bulk are treated like servants and slaves on many worlds that get cult infestations. People who are basically only required to breed and provide bodies for labour and war. Where mutation and bodily harm from industrial work are more commonplace.

Ample room to hide a xenomorph infestation that starts corrupting bodies. A few marks on the body are burns and scars from chemical works; the extra eye a mutation because you live near the output of a factory and that extra arm; ok you're a muto so you're lower than low but so long as you can lift those rocks you can hang around and work in the mine - in your own group so you don't socialist with the normies.


Basically humanity isn't just a very ripe target, its one that is much easier for the stealers to build a functional cult within.

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Hecaton wrote:
 Dysartes wrote:
Nah. that's just the typical Tau bull$%^& coming into play.

There's someone in the Studio whose job appears to be applying handwavium to any potential issue the Tau might have. It gets old very, very fast.


It makes sense, though, because the Tau actually innovate technology, that they'd develop a technological solution to the problem. The AdMech focus on unearthing lost technology, not developing new stuff, and so wouldn't have a good solution to a species that's a relative galactic newcomer (genestealers).

The Eldar have similar solutions. It's not that the Tau are bs, the Imperium is just full of superstitious, backwards idiots.


In a word, no. There's been multiple occasions in novels whereby once the infection is known, the Imperium initiates mass gene testing to weed them out. It's not a massively innovative piece of technlogy, Christ, we can do gene testing even today. It's more a case of 'Why would you routinely and securely scan the entire population for Genestealers when the Imperium is so big most people will never be within thirty systems of one?'.

The whole point of Stealers is that they infiltrate, and where possible subvert the chain of command and testing apparatus (labs, etc) to cover for each other. So you never realise that they're there until it's too late to start widespread testing and identifying/isolating them.

If the Tau are routinely undertaking gene testing of everybody frequently enough to catch Genestealer taint on arrival, that has far more terrifying autocratic implications than the IOM's casual neglect of its citizenry.

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Hecaton wrote:
epronovost wrote:
While there are examples of Oks and Eldar genestealers hybrids, they are very rare since both those race are very good at spotting the hybrids.

Eldars are all psykers and their entire tech is psychic based. They can thus detect the "alieness" of the genetealer very easily. Dark Eldars no longer are highly psychic since they are self repressed, but they rarely reproduce sexually making the spread difficult. They are also master of gene modification so probably have a cure to it too. The fact that Eldars are rare and reproduce very slowly doesn't make the spread of a genestealer cult easy within their society. At best, you'll have a few infected individual who would be forced to flee Eldar society and maybe attempt to breed with another kind of hybrid.

Orks, while very numerous, also have a gestal psychic talent and can also know when something isn't "orky" enough and those things they kill. Orks also have a radically different reproduction system.

T'au reproduce by cast and according to a very specific and controlled fashion making the spread of the cult difficult and Necrons are basically living robots.

Humans ae numerous reproduce anarchically and quickly, live in society that are easy to infiltrate and represent the greatest threat and resources to the Nids. That's why they are the most common and mining guilds, private enforcers and industrial workers are their most common target due to their ubiquitousness and their ease of access to weapons and heavy equipment. .


It's noted, though, that even humans in Tau space don't really have genestealer cults - because the Tau are good at detecting it *in humans* and curing it. So it's not a matter of species, really - it's a matter of the Imperium of Man being a corrupt, bloated bureaucracy run by degenerate nobles who couldn't find their ass with both hands and a map.


Where is it noted that the Tau don't have GSCs?

There are a number of specific examples in the Lore stating the opposite.

Now the Tau are a difficult one for the Cult to get started in due to their society and breeding culture but if they can then Cult will benefit from the same highly stratfied and obediant society.

Humanity is however a much much easier target.

Good story in latest Inferno with a stable GSC doiminating worlds and defeating disease then coming into conflict with followers of Nurgle who see this as a challange

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 Ketara wrote:
In a word, no. There's been multiple occasions in novels whereby once the infection is known, the Imperium initiates mass gene testing to weed them out. It's not a massively innovative piece of technlogy, Christ, we can do gene testing even today. It's more a case of 'Why would you routinely and securely scan the entire population for Genestealers when the Imperium is so big most people will never be within thirty systems of one?'.


Sure, we have tests for that *today*, but the Imperium is hopelessly backwards with respect to technology and how to implement it. A Magos Biologis would rather jealously guard a method of gene testing than allow it to be deployed en masse to help people. In any case, I'm not familiar with these novels; surely you can cite them?

 Ketara wrote:
The whole point of Stealers is that they infiltrate, and where possible subvert the chain of command and testing apparatus (labs, etc) to cover for each other. So you never realise that they're there until it's too late to start widespread testing and identifying/isolating them.


Except the Kroot can detect them via olfactory means, and the Tau have technology to cure a genestealer infection.

 Ketara wrote:
If the Tau are routinely undertaking gene testing of everybody frequently enough to catch Genestealer taint on arrival, that has far more terrifying autocratic implications than the IOM's casual neglect of its citizenry.


No, and trying to imply that the Tau are less authoritarian, murderous, and cruel than the Imperium of Man is the epitome of a bad-faith argument. Remember, the Imperium just kills babies with deformities. Born intersex, with a cleft palette, or with a sixth finger? They'll kill you as a baby, while an Ecclesiarchical preacher opines that you deserved it and are evil from birth. And if your mother tries to intervene? They'll kill her too, probably try to torture her to death to prove a point.


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Where is it noted that the Tau don't have GSCs?

There are a number of specific examples in the Lore stating the opposite.


The only extant example of a Tau GSC is from a Twisted Helix - like event, as mentioned by someone upthread.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Now the Tau are a difficult one for the Cult to get started in due to their society and breeding culture but if they can then Cult will benefit from the same highly stratfied and obediant society.


If they infected the Ethereal caste, sure. But The Imperium is incredibly stratified and obedient as well, probably moreso than the Tau.

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The Greater Evil and Voice of Experience both deal with Tau GSC.


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Didn’t realise there was such an easy answer to the question!

I’ll have to google ork OOP genestealer hybrids


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Others have covered this, but with all the back and forth, perhaps you should read some of the compiled fluff for yourself, and draw your own conclusions.
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I mean why don’t they take over ork, eldar, kroot, squat or other alien civilisations?

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Hecaton wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
In a word, no. There's been multiple occasions in novels whereby once the infection is known, the Imperium initiates mass gene testing to weed them out. It's not a massively innovative piece of technlogy, Christ, we can do gene testing even today. It's more a case of 'Why would you routinely and securely scan the entire population for Genestealers when the Imperium is so big most people will never be within thirty systems of one?'.


Sure, we have tests for that *today*, but the Imperium is hopelessly backwards with respect to technology and how to implement it. A Magos Biologis would rather jealously guard a method of gene testing than allow it to be deployed en masse to help people. In any case, I'm not familiar with these novels; surely you can cite them?

I read my way through the Ciaphas Cain series recently, and can confirm it comes up several times in them.
One such instance:
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Broklaw nodded. ‘You don’t know the half of it. We’ve got nearly a thousand refugees trapped in the terminal building,’ he said. ‘Evacuated from lower down.’
‘Most of them have been stuck there for days,’ Kasteen added, ‘waiting for genetic screening to weed out any hybrids among them, but the justicars have been a bit too busy to deal with that.’


   
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The first Cain book also covers both Kroot detection of infection - taste test on corpses, not smell, and they don't seem to know much about Genestealers at the point the book is set (early 900.M41, from memory) - as well as the thing at the finale.

One of the other Cain books covers working with the Tau against the Tyranids, but I can't recall if there are further mentions of Genestealer infiltration one way or another in that one off the top of my head.

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I always love the stories where some one investigates GSC. And some place down the line you get the 'aI is all good. No more infection here. Sertanly do not come down yourself and make sure.' Always a sign of a healthy sociaty.

   
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Hecaton wrote:

Sure, we have tests for that *today*, but the Imperium is hopelessly backwards with respect to technology and how to implement it. A Magos Biologis would rather jealously guard a method of gene testing than allow it to be deployed en masse to help people. In any case, I'm not familiar with these novels; surely you can cite them?

Off the top of my head it happens in the Ciaphas Cain novel series. Perlia, or one of the other genestealer plots where they need to test the Guard, then the PDF, and so on. There were also entire regiments of gene-hanced soldiers in the Heresy that I'm aware of (starting from the Geno Five Two Chilead on down), and multiple mentions of gene-hancing have been made offhand in various novels all over the joint (usually inquisitorial ones where some underworld gang or another is doing it).

The only time I ever read about gene analysis being a big deal was in the Shira Calpurnia series where some super hench and rare ancient computer was deployed to do it because it was needed to validate a permit from the Emperor himself for an original Rogue Trader. So it was a massive big deal for political reasons.

Point being, it's not done on every street corner, but it's not so rare or complicated that a well-resourced organisation can't get access to it or roll it out. A bit like real life in other words!



Except the Kroot can detect them via olfactory means, and the Tau have technology to cure a genestealer infection.

And...I was talking about humans? So...sure? My point here is that the Tau aren't particularly amazingly in advance of everyone else in this field; because what they're doing is bog standard enough that even the Imperium can do it. Superstititous or not.

 Ketara wrote:
If the Tau are routinely undertaking gene testing of everybody frequently enough to catch Genestealer taint on arrival, that has far more terrifying autocratic implications than the IOM's casual neglect of its citizenry.


No, and trying to imply that the Tau are less authoritarian, murderous, and cruel than the Imperium of Man is the epitome of a bad-faith argument. Remember, the Imperium just kills babies with deformities. Born intersex, with a cleft palette, or with a sixth finger? They'll kill you as a baby, while an Ecclesiarchical preacher opines that you deserved it and are evil from birth. And if your mother tries to intervene? They'll kill her too, probably try to torture her to death to prove a point.


Blimey, the goalposts almost just took my head off they flew over it so fast. Cool your heels and read my words.

To break it down exceedingly simply, my point was that the Imperium NOT gene-testing everyone on a regular basis is in fact, the norm. There's no reason to do it. You could argue that it should be done more than they likely do it (being a neglectful organisation at best) so as to check for health problems and things of that ilk. I highly doubt most citizens ever have it done at all. But really, there's no good or positive reason by to be routinely gene-testing your population on a monthly/yearly basis.Which is really what you'd need to be doing to catch genestealers before they could do any harm.

So if the Tau ARE gene testing that regularly (I don't know, but it's what was claimed), they have to have a more nefarious ulterior motive than simple good health/organisation. What that could be, I don't know. I suppose Tau could be susceptible to sudden genetic conditions or something that's never been mentioned that would make it necessary. But right now, on existing fluff, there'd be no cause for it.

I'm just pointing out that gene-testing isn't a particularly great accomplishment, and that there's no real reason why anyone (Imperium or Tau) should be gene-testing frequently enough to catch 'stealers without being given a reason to look.

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The Imperium despite its propaganda to the contrary, actually does not have much control at all over some segments of its population, particularly on Hive worlds. If we use Necromunda as an example of a Hive world, it is explicitly said that the Imperial Governor and his government have no direct control over much of the population and there is no census. It is all decentralized, with the government only interacting at the level of the House (with Houses having the populations of modern day nations). It is entirely possible, even common, for someone to be born and live their entire life on Necromunda off the system without being tracked or registered with any Imperial organization.

That is why though the Imperium in theory has the means for genetic testing, it does not actually do so as a routine policy. When it does attempt to do so, it will be reactive and often far too ad hoc or too late. If the Imperium is also reliant on local power structures to do the testing, then these organizations are themselves susceptible to being infiltrated and subverted, with the Imperium being none the wiser.
   
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Arson Fire wrote:
Hecaton wrote:
 Ketara wrote:
In a word, no. There's been multiple occasions in novels whereby once the infection is known, the Imperium initiates mass gene testing to weed them out. It's not a massively innovative piece of technlogy, Christ, we can do gene testing even today. It's more a case of 'Why would you routinely and securely scan the entire population for Genestealers when the Imperium is so big most people will never be within thirty systems of one?'.


Sure, we have tests for that *today*, but the Imperium is hopelessly backwards with respect to technology and how to implement it. A Magos Biologis would rather jealously guard a method of gene testing than allow it to be deployed en masse to help people. In any case, I'm not familiar with these novels; surely you can cite them?

I read my way through the Ciaphas Cain series recently, and can confirm it comes up several times in them.
One such instance:
Duty Calls wrote:
Broklaw nodded. ‘You don’t know the half of it. We’ve got nearly a thousand refugees trapped in the terminal building,’ he said. ‘Evacuated from lower down.’
‘Most of them have been stuck there for days,’ Kasteen added, ‘waiting for genetic screening to weed out any hybrids among them, but the justicars have been a bit too busy to deal with that.’




Those are hybrids they're testing for, not brood brothers.


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 Ketara wrote:
Blimey, the goalposts almost just took my head off they flew over it so fast. Cool your heels and read my words.


Nah. The argument that the the Imperium, which is too incompetent to implement widespread testing for alien infection, is better than the Tau *because* they don't implement it is bogus.

 Ketara wrote:
But really, there's no good or positive reason by to be routinely gene-testing your population on a monthly/yearly basis.Which is really what you'd need to be doing to catch genestealers before they could do any harm.


Maybe the "good reason" is genestealer cults.

 Ketara wrote:
So if the Tau ARE gene testing that regularly (I don't know, but it's what was claimed), they have to have a more nefarious ulterior motive than simple good health/organisation. What that could be, I don't know. I suppose Tau could be susceptible to sudden genetic conditions or something that's never been mentioned that would make it necessary. But right now, on existing fluff, there'd be no cause for it.


Why would the reason be nefarious? It sounds like you're working from the premise that the Tau do everything for evil reasons, when we know that that is very much less true of them than it is for the Imperium.

 Ketara wrote:
I'm just pointing out that gene-testing isn't a particularly great accomplishment, and that there's no real reason why anyone (Imperium or Tau) should be gene-testing frequently enough to catch 'stealers without being given a reason to look.


It isn't a particularly great accomplishment, no, but that doesn't reflect well on the Imperium's inability to do so.

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