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PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
I’m getting the sneaking suspicion that the Death Guard release is going to be half-assed.

Book, terrain, character, combat　patrol. That's all that was sane to wait. That's more than most will likely get

 Matrindur wrote:
There is quite a bit more to see in the background of their reveal video

Right ones look like Slaangors and the left one looks like a bigger model based on the size of the base

Left one looks like the new Lord of Pain but seems like another Character on the right also some kind of chariot carried by some Slaangors in the middle?

Also this part in the background could be part of a bigger centerpiece model

Top image looks like all Slaangors to me, with the unit champion/standalone leader in the middle

Hard to tell what's going on in the other two images, but yeah, seems like an additional leader/character, and two new great big models, one of which seems more like a palaquin on top of two beasts of burden

Very exciting. I was happy enough to just get the one box of Slaanesh mortals, but now I'm very keen for a proper full release

JWBS wrote:
Was there a date given for Codex DA? I'm interested in when to expect a Combat Patrol box for them.

No dates have officially been given to dg/ba yet(odds are good preorder announced tomorrow) but if tomorrow announcement　is　true odds　are good in-store 2.1.2021

tneva82 wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
I’m getting the sneaking suspicion that the Death Guard release is going to be half-assed.

Book, terrain, character, combat　patrol. That's all that was sane to wait. That's more than most will likely get

Plus the widespread release of the Space Marine Heroes: Plague Marines.

Just no beautiful chaos sorcerer

I really like the Slaanesh stuff. The twinsouls faces are bad, but apart from that I love it. Sigvald is Magnificent (chortle).

Wasn't that already sold and　sold out?

 Sabotage! wrote:
Nice to see all the additional stuff in the background of the preview, as it means the Slaanesh release will actually be pretty substantial and not just a hero and one new kit.

I hope so. Maybe be there will be another kit that makes two different models: Bellydancer-fighter and Mortal Archers, to mimic the Underworlds release.

And then Slaangors. We need those. It'd be fun if they were the "big" minis, mirroring the one from Underwords in that they're kind of like Blight Knights or those need Tree people. Or Wraithguard sized, if you want to put it in the context of 40k. In other words, not just another Beastmen kit.

 bullyboy wrote:
Can't believe they are doing another Vigilus type release, definitely not buying that book which means copying any rules inside from online posts if decent. Crusade stuff....all good, but matched play new rules at this stage, hell no.

Agree. Splitting the rules for one rather small army into two books and then releasing them at the same time cannot be excused to be anything but a cash-grab. I am buying the codex and the crusade book, but definitely not this campaign nonsense - especially not if it's of a similar quality as Vigilus was..

tneva82 wrote:

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
I’m getting the sneaking suspicion that the Death Guard release is going to be half-assed.

Book, terrain, character, combat　patrol. That's all that was sane to wait. That's more than most will likely get

I mean, I think it’s going to be half-assed even inside the codex. At this point I’m not expecting “choose your own plague company” rules, a protocols/doctrines equivalent, or updates to the <legion> keyword restriction that make souping chaos marines less useful than souping chaos daemons.

Gotta agree that campaign book seems like a waste of ink. 9th just started, I don't see why you would want to fragment the rules for a faction this early on given that only 2 armies have been updated for the edition so far.

They couldn't be bothered to show a single new 40k model? Not even the new Lelith Hesperax that we know has been studio-painted for like months now?

 Esmer wrote:
They couldn't be bothered to show a single new 40k model? Not even the new Lelith Hesperax that we know has been studio-painted for like months now?

Nope, Xenos don't get a model spotlight. Only marines are allowed excessive photograph loving

 Esmer wrote:
They couldn't be bothered to show a single new 40k model? Not even the new Lelith Hesperax that we know has been studio-painted for like months now?

Yeah, it was rather disappointing.

Our wallets are grateful but...dammit, its supposed to be 40K - the big-bad wargame that dominates the tables. GW needed to push the boat out.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Esmer wrote:
They couldn't be bothered to show a single new 40k model? Not even the new Lelith Hesperax that we know has been studio-painted for like months now?

Nope, Xenos don't get a model spotlight. Only marines are allowed excessive photograph loving

we got 12 pages guys! 12 pages before the marine hate I know that this seems good, but bear in mind that there were no marines included in today's preview, so it's actually not that good

Disappointing preview IMO. I'm primarily a 40k guy and I'm only interested in seeing new models, which I know is a niche but I suspect it's a fairly substantial one. I wasn't expecting something wild like a full Emperors Children range but just a couple of new models would have been good (even just full views of some of the lieutenant models previously glimpsed at).

I do like the tone of the previews though, the presenters strike a good balance of salesmanship and genuine hobbyist enthusiasm. It doesn't feel too corporate or pushy. I hope they can strike a better balance of content and that these continue even post corona.

JWBS wrote:


we got 12 pages guys! 12 pages before the marine hate I know that this seems good, but bear in mind that there were no marines included in today's preview, so it's actually not that good

Marines are fair game; they wear armour and helmets to hide how upset they are!

Lots of awesome stuff

Really like the Underworlds Warband and the new Magnificent One! Also enjoying the similiarity between the look of the Lumineth and the new Slaanesh Warriors.

Interested to see what what they do with Dark Eldar - I love Incubi and these seem to be getting there plus the mention of new special rules for detachments and probably a Dracon (lt) model

Not sure about the Archeoteks but the sky boarders are great (and if you play Dredd) and maybe for some Dark Eldar conversions.

Another great preview

Well thats... meh.
Its surreal that specialist game gets more model.support than 40k faction that sorely need it. Instead. Enjoy your codex and codex supplament..

It’s really extra sleaze to announce the dark eldar book and campaign book with extra dark eldar rules at the same preview! All the new rules should just be in the codex.

 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta agree that campaign book seems like a waste of ink. 9th just started, I don't see why you would want to fragment the rules for a faction this early on given that only 2 armies have been updated for the edition so far.

And if they put crusade　stuff to book　some would be complainieg of excess non-matched stuff　in book　

Either/Or wrote:
It’s really extra sleaze to announce the dark eldar book and campaign book with extra dark eldar rules at the same preview! All the new rules should just be in the codex.

Seems to suggest everybody is getting supplaments. Except marines get dedicated ones while everyone else gets some sort if shared book.. not saying its good marines get dedicated books. Saying it suck everyone gets supplaments rather than rules in main codex..

Crusade expansion i dont think anyone would have a problem.with..

The underworlds and necromunda stuff is, I think, the best of it. Just wish the hover board van stars weren't so static and a pair of duplicate poses. Orlocks had the same problem, but it seems magnified here. Love the two battle harness models, however.

Slaanesh is hit and miss, but I've no real desire to try to paint it, even the good stuff.

I'm left with a bad feeling about the DG and dark eldar releases. It will be good to see those factions get some love, but the lack of models make them feel like thin releases, and DE in particular need a lot of model support.

The stupid campaign book with extra rules is definitely a problem. It's far, far too soon for that kind of crap.


Treebeard is a actual good treeman model, and I don't know how to intellectually deal with that.

We all knew that not every Xenos was going to get the full works rebuild that Necrons got in terms of new model support. If anything DE aren't in that bad a spot model wise compared to, say, Craftworld Eldar who sorely need a big Necron sized update.

It's a shame DE don't seem to be getting many if any new toys to play with, but a working Codex means getting to use the toys you do have and getting to use them in new ways and perhaps even refocus your army in a new direction and buy some models you don't yet own (or buy more of them for a theme).


Plus don't forget GW is today far more open to drip feeding out models as well as a big releases. DE might not get anything new now, but in a few months they might get some drip fed out new models to pick up.

In agreement with everyone else so far. Those Painbringers are exactly what I would expect a Slaanesh mortal unit to look like. Opulent, twisted, and still somewhat reminiscent of a traditional chaos warrior.

I dig the single silver breastplate on each. Cool touch. The armor looks similar enough to the Twinsouls I wonder if it's a dual kit or at the least, the parts will be compatible with each other (easy way to fix the head issue?).

I feel like the Cypher Lords would actually blend in pretty well with these guys.

I may not have gotten a Be'lakor showing up, but Sigvald is looking pretty nice.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
In agreement with everyone else so far. Those Painbringers are exactly what I would expect a Slaanesh mortal unit to look like. Opulent, twisted, and still somewhat reminiscent of a traditional chaos warrior.

I dig the single silver breastplate on each. Cool touch. The armor looks similar enough to the Twinsouls I wonder if it's a dual kit or at the least, the parts will be compatible with each other (easy way to fix the head issue?).

I feel like the Cypher Lords would actually blend in pretty well with these guys.

I may not have gotten a Be'lakor showing up, but Sigvald is looking pretty nice.

The bodies are identical, it will be a dual head kit.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:


I dig the single silver breastplate on each. Cool touch. The armor looks similar enough to the Twinsouls I wonder if it's a dual kit or at the least, the parts will be compatible with each other (easy way to fix the head issue?).

It was confirmed in the stream that its a duel kit. From what I can tell the bodies are the same, the variation is in weapons and heads. It's baiscally the Chaos Warriors for Slaanesh - you've got your sword and shield full armour warriors as basics; then you've got your duel weapon open helm elite style warriors. So yep if you hate the exposed heads you can easily put the helms on them and the weapons will still easily identify them for what they are.

Wow that's gonna be one big Slaneesh relase

Either/Or wrote:
It’s really extra sleaze to announce the dark eldar book and campaign book with extra dark eldar rules at the same preview! All the new rules should just be in the codex.

Well, they started down that train with Marine supplements, getting, say, Space Wolves players to buy two books, instead of one. So why not make everybody buy two books would be the obvious question the sales guys would be asking

The one redeeming factor of the unhelmeted heads is some would be great for Chaos Sisters of Silence.

Although SoS are blanks. So the chances of them being possessed or going chaos are pretty much 0. :/

Pleasantly surprised there actually was more than 1 thing for Slaanesh. Sigvald looks actually hot, (which confirms my suspicion GW sculptors need more practice with lady faces, but that's beside the point), the myrmidons look good, the twinsouls look good...right until you see the faces. They tried to go for leering, they got goofy sadly.
Underworlds stuff is solid, that's all i can say.

40k stuff- nice that the dark eldar are getting a codex, but seeing some models would be nice.
If I were 40k-oriented I'd be seriously annoyed at all the bloatware in shape of campaign books and cards and stuff vs models, esp. since it's "part 1" only.

The necromunda models are not bad, but the hoverboards look to have some really fiddly and snappable bits.