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2020/11/16 15:01:07
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Could this be the first look at the much speculated emperors children codex and models?
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2020/11/16 15:04:40
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Probably not Emperor's Children, no. We saw that a January coin from the new GW 'in-store' incentives is a Hedonites of Slaanesh one.
Death Guard seem a lock though.
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2020/11/16 15:15:30
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Decadence is probably Hedonites for AOS, and Decay is Death Guard for 40k.
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2020/11/16 15:17:31
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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*sad OP who forgot Age of Sigmar exists noises*
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2020/11/16 15:32:01
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Stubborn White Lion
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It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.
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2020/11/16 15:33:04
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dai wrote:It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.
Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.
They have a lot to get through, be patient.
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2020/11/16 15:57:51
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Unit1126PLL wrote:Dai wrote:It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.
Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.
They have a lot to get through, be patient.
Well but by the time those are done then the other green marines, blue marines, gray marines, white marines, black-and-white marines, other-black-and-silver marines, and yellow-but-somtimes-blue-and-red marines will be out of date! You can't expect them to not have an update to get them in line with the dog marines green marines red marines silver marines and first black and silver marines can you??
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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2020/11/16 18:17:33
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Lady of the Lake
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Everyone forgets the silver marines and the gold marines.
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2020/11/16 18:54:36
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Given the gold marines aren't marines, it's reasonable to forget them in this context.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/11/16 20:28:15
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Dysartes wrote:
Given the gold marines aren't marines, it's reasonable to forget them in this context.
The Silver Skulls and the Brazen Minotaurs aren't Marines?
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2020/11/16 20:30:01
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
The deck of the Widower
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Technically the gold marines are marine-ier marines.
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2020/11/16 20:37:15
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There new bone marines in the next issue of white dwarf
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2020/11/16 20:39:36
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2020/11/16 20:38:00
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oh right, the Sand Marines.
So anyways, that's why you're waiting for attention on the other factions, Dai.
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2020/11/16 20:41:49
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Unit1126PLL wrote:
Oh right, the Sand Marines.
So anyways, that's why you're waiting for attention on the other factions, Dai.
Nope just seen that us lucky ducks are getting another SM index!!!!
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2020/11/16 20:45:39
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Dakka Veteran
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the_scotsman wrote: Unit1126PLL wrote:Dai wrote:It's amazing how long it's taking them to make the obvious move of codexing and deamon primarching up Emps Kids and World Eaters. I know those models take some designing but I Imagine they also sell like hot cakes to collectors and gamers alike.
Listen, they have to do Marines, then green marines, then black-and-silver (not to be confused with black-and-white) marines, then dog marines, then red marines.
They have a lot to get through, be patient.
Well but by the time those are done then the other green marines, blue marines, gray marines, white marines, black-and-white marines, other-black-and-silver marines, and yellow-but-somtimes-blue-and-red marines will be out of date! You can't expect them to not have an update to get them in line with the dog marines green marines red marines silver marines and first black and silver marines can you??
I wouldn’t be surprised if we got 1 Codex, 1 SM Supplement each month for the whole of next year tbh...
After DA in Jan, they’ve got BT needing a supplement and then I’m sure they’re going to want to give all the new goodies to the old ones...
Also gives them something to tie the inevitable constant stream of marine releases to.
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2020/11/16 21:02:54
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Huh, are we actually getting updated gak for LotD?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/11/16 21:08:37
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Unfortunately not - an index for the WD Chapter the Tome Keepers instead.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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2020/11/16 21:09:47
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Oh right, sand marines were in this White Dwarf, sorry. it's hard to keep all the different factions in this game straight some times, what with them all being marines. EDIT: Unless, by bone marines and sand marines we meant the same marines, in which case, I acknowledge that I may have been confused. Marine marines!
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2020/11/16 21:11:00
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dysartes wrote:
Unfortunately not - an index for the WD Chapter the Tome Keepers instead.
Oh. Well that's disappointing. Incredibly so.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/11/16 21:14:03
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
The dark hollows of Kentucky
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Well it's good to see that WD is giving some much needed support to the woefully underrepresented loyalist space marines.
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2020/11/16 21:16:00
Subject: Re:Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Gadzilla666 wrote: Well it's good to see that WD is giving some much needed support to the woefully underrepresented loyalist space marines. I dunno man, the shark marines don't have Space Marines riding Sharks yet, but the dog marines have Space Marines riding Dogs. When will we see support for shark marines??? It's disappointing to see such factions neglected.
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2020/11/16 21:18:08
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Norn Queen
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love how the White Dwarf article is about making your own home brew marine chapter. "Just look at what we have done! Also we made a bespoke datasheet for a unique character that you cannot do so don't even worry about that home brewing thing! feth your dudes!"
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2020/11/16 21:26:22
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Well it does mean that we are getting a Power Axe Primaris Captain which means more relic access. Meh.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2020/11/16 23:15:49
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lance845 wrote: love how the White Dwarf article is about making your own home brew marine chapter. "Just look at what we have done! Also we made a bespoke datasheet for a unique character that you cannot do so don't even worry about that home brewing thing! feth your dudes!"
Yeah and as if people haven’t been doing this since rogue trader
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2020/11/16 23:19:22
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Norn Queen
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What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2020/11/16 23:20:57
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Lance845 wrote:What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...
Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list.
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2020/11/16 23:23:38
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Norn Queen
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Overread wrote: Lance845 wrote:What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc... Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list. 1) that is an example of a poorly made one. Usually with a bloat of options that have clear winners and loosers competing for the same job. 2) How is that any different from right now at the unit level? "THIS named character is a better x than x so why ever take X when you can just have bespoke datasheet."
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2020/11/16 23:26:19
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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Lance845 wrote: Overread wrote: Lance845 wrote:What would be nice is if they stopped with the bespoke bs and actually put in robust tools to build "named characters". Then, build their own named characters using those rules. That way we are working with the same tools as the developers and can actually build our own home brew "chapter"/hivefleet/regiment/etc...
Eh I remember the old Tyranid one. It's a dream for any min-max power-player; a confusing nightmare for others. The problem is even with a custom engine only certain builds would rise to the top as powerful. By which point you're just getting dozens of people picking the same rough choices from the list.
1) that is an example of a poorly made one. Usually with a bloat of options that have clear winners and loosers competing for the same job.
2) How is that any different from right now at the unit level? "THIS named character is a better x than x so why ever take X when you can just have bespoke datasheet."
Well this is GW, after 30 odd years I know that they won't make a perfectly balanced one.
And the difference is at least with the unit level choices you have a specific model for each choice. If you introduce a custom system then either you're forced to convert or the custom options only relate to model deisgns build already. So you then have a system that's mostly what we have now just with a load more upgrade options that don't appear on the model.
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2020/11/16 23:36:35
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Norn Queen
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WYSIWYG isn't a rule. + convert away.
And no. The only difference between that and what we have now is home brew is just "counts as X chapter" because you need/want the bespoke rules instead of actually being able to craft your own.
I would rather we all be able to craft our own.
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2020/11/16 23:44:47
Subject: Next preview, decadence and decay!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
UK
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It might not be a rule but its an expectation most gamers have and it has been a rule for many years and is also a rule in many other wargames. Not universal but its pretty commonplace. Also there's a difference between a system that supports converting and one that requires converting (or perhaps requires converting to get access to a full roster/the best options). Heck if GW wanted to go and make Necromunda style leader models for each army I'm all for that; just not if we have to do it ourselves
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