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American ones, the sort of protectionism required to make sure their piddle weak beer and wonky cars have a shot of remaining in the market after they experience the real stuff.

It sadly has knock on effects on everything else.

It's not a problem really. I have just subscribed, now it time to make a nice cup of tea. I will pop over to WHS to get my odd issue subscription up and running too. You got your subscription in yet Grotsnik or are you going to cherry pick issues.

To assist your decision making for the Premium Subscription, without offering conclusion.

Total extra cost is £2 per week for 80 weeks, so £160.00 in total. Split down, that’s £40 each.

Ork set GW RRP.
1 x Shokk Attak Gun - £22.50
1 x Grots - £12.50
1 x Ork Boyz - £22.50
Total £57.50

Tyranids set GW RRP
1 x Broodlord - £25.00
1 x Genestealers - £22.50
1 x Termagants - £20.00
Total £62.50

Tau set GW RRP
1 x Cadre Fireblade - £17.50
1 x Fire Warrior Team - £30.00
1 x Stealth Suit Team - £20.00
Total £67.50

Chaos set GW RRP
1 x Sorceror - £17.50
1 x Sprue from Start Collecting £????


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 Orlanth wrote:
American ones, the sort of protectionism required to make sure their piddle weak beer and wonky cars have a shot of remaining in the market after they experience the real stuff.

It sadly has knock on effects on everything else.

It's not a problem really. I have just subscribed, now it time to make a nice cup of tea. I will pop over to WHS to get my odd issue subscription up and running too. You got your subscription in yet Grotsnik or are you going to cherry pick issues.

Cherry picking. Want some bits, not at all interested in the others.

No laws i can think of, its just a subscription, we get stuff in subscriptions all the time.
I dont see how this is different from say, a Beer delivery box

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Maybe this is the Exclusive? Zoomed in and well blurry, but i don’t recognise it.

It’s not the standard Primaris Captain with gun and sword I don’t think, as the sword is at a completely different angle?

That's Rowboat Girlyman. You get a primarch in this. Its a cool addition but problematic for balance we might say. I 'converted' my Conquest miniatures into Crimson Fists, I say converted as the exclusive leiutenant had overt Ultramarines iconography cast onto the model. I cant get away with converting Guilliman so I suppose he will have to stay an ultra. I might add a Greyfax miniature (if she isn't in there somewhere already) and have a 'wandering adventurer' Guilliman that I can add to my Imperial armies as and when I want to totally imbalance everything.

It is nice that this campaigns exclusive miniature is not specifically an Ultramarine, I think he will look just fine in Kantor Blue.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Asking out of ignorance, but what sort of state laws might interfere with this being made available?

It was mentioned earlier I think, with a set like this the companies are required to complete the collections rather than cancelling a loss making one before it is complete. That sounded like the major one.

Are those the sisters of battle from the ltd edition box?

Those are the Sisters from the Ltd Ed. box.

And how does one acquire that new Captain?

And note that the new Captain has a Plasma Pistol but does not have a Power Fist. Finally you don't have to have the latter if you take the former.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those are the Sisters from the Ltd Ed. box.

Sweet

 Orlanth wrote:
That's Rowboat Girlyman. You get a primarch in this. Its a cool addition but problematic for balance we might say. I 'converted' my Conquest miniatures into Crimson Fists, I say converted as the exclusive leiutenant had overt Ultramarines iconography cast onto the model. I cant get away with converting Guilliman so I suppose he will have to stay an ultra. I might add a Greyfax miniature (if she isn't in there somewhere already) and have a 'wandering adventurer' Guilliman that I can add to my Imperial armies as and when I want to totally imbalance everything.

Guilliman has visited Rynn's World and high-fived Cantor, so it's reasonable that he could be fielded alongside Crimson Fists.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Those are the Sisters from the Ltd Ed. box.

And how does one acquire that new Captain?

And note that the new Captain has a Plasma Pistol but does not have a Power Fist. Finally you don't have to have the latter if you take the former.

Likely Issue 5, going off Conquest and Mortal Realms.

Will looking to order a few via Hachette and Forbidden Planet.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And note that the new Captain has a Plasma Pistol but does not have a Power Fist. Finally you don't have to have the latter if you take the former.

Assuming that it gets an updated datasheet... (note that most people seem to have considered the variant datasheets from Conquest as not to be used elsewhere).

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Asking out of ignorance, but what sort of state laws might interfere with this being made available?

I would not know specifics, but there is a lot of protectionism here in the U.S., despite all the pulpit-pounding about free markets etcetera. So Hatchette would have to look at each state's laws regulating this type of commerce individually.

That exclusive appears to be captain of the 2nd company i.e. Cato Sicarius right?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Will looking to order a few via Hachette and Forbidden Planet.

Well put me down for one. Always interested in rare models.

Will do dude

Billicus wrote:
That exclusive appears to be captain of the 2nd company i.e. Cato Sicarius right?

Sicariariarius is leader of the Victrix Guard now. The 2nd are led by Captain Acheran; but there are like six different 2nd Captain models now, which presumably aren't all the same guy, so who knows?

Lame, I was hoping to see him Primaris'd.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
(note that most people seem to have considered the variant datasheets from Conquest as not to be used elsewhere).

What datasheets were those?

The ones that came in the Conquest issues. Things like a squad of three Intercessors or Reivers. Lt Calsius technically had a datasheet of his own, but he's just armed with a power sword which isn't an unusual weapon for a Lieutenant.

 Crimson wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
(note that most people seem to have considered the variant datasheets from Conquest as not to be used elsewhere).

What datasheets were those?

The bike squad, for one (1-2 bikes. Can add 1 bike and/or attack bike. Can upgrade one to sergeant. No weapon options besides multi-melta).
etc...

Honestly surprised they didn't chuck the silent king or a monolith into the necron side with Bobby G being on the marine side.

cody.d. wrote:
Honestly surprised they didn't chuck the silent king or a monolith into the necron side with Bobby G being on the marine side.

Monolith would have been a bit much, but I'd have expected to see a Doomstalker or Ark perhaps appear. More so the Doomstalker since its big, new, fancy and not as versatile a kit as the ark (ark makes 2 options; doomstalker only one).

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
That's Rowboat Girlyman. You get a primarch in this. Its a cool addition but problematic for balance we might say. I 'converted' my Conquest miniatures into Crimson Fists, I say converted as the exclusive leiutenant had overt Ultramarines iconography cast onto the model. I cant get away with converting Guilliman so I suppose he will have to stay an ultra. I might add a Greyfax miniature (if she isn't in there somewhere already) and have a 'wandering adventurer' Guilliman that I can add to my Imperial armies as and when I want to totally imbalance everything.

Guilliman has visited Rynn's World and high-fived Cantor, so it's reasonable that he could be fielded alongside Crimson Fists.

He's also bro-fisted Dante and given him a cheeky wink, so you can probably run him in BA too.

Nothing much in the first four issues to entice me but will pick up issues on spec if there’s something decent included. Reckon it will be good for expanding my terrain and getting some of the more specialist units. Certainly interested in the Sisters of Battle anyway.

This really does show how bull gak GW's prices are.

£34.50 for 3 Skorphek Destroyers + Plasmacyte

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£8.99 for 3 Skorphek Destroyers + Plasmacyte, a full colour magazine, map sheets and a pot of paint.

Interesting that I cant see any blade guard, was kind of hoping to nab some from here. Oh well, ill likely get 2-3 of each of the sisters issues and some necrons.

Just about every Marine in the set is an Easy 2 Build model.

The Blade Guard from Indomitus come on a sprue with quite a bit more, and whilst I'm sure there's no problem with including that sprue as part of this magazine subscription, I don't think GW would allow that given they want to charge an obscene amount for said sprue.

And they're not about to include the multi-part Bladeguard kit in this.

 JoeRugby wrote:
Are those the sisters of battle from the ltd edition box?

Yes. This is good news on a number of levels. I bought two starter boxsets to get these minis. They are static pose not multipose kits but that means each girl has a good pose to her, and you can get further customisation from a bit of chop and change with bits from the regular boxsets. I like the starter content as the mins are different and when you mix them with the regular boxsets you get w wide variety of models and poses. The walkers are harder to customise but the walker here is again different to any of the three penitent engines from the penitent engine boxset again opening up variety and reducing copypasta. Sisters are a horde army and while the miniatures boxsets for the faction are very good they can get samey fast especially as each sister only hasd two pose options. Sprinkling in the starter models really throws this open.

Finally these great models are compressed onto a small number of sprues, IIRC only three, with the canoness on a separate mini sprue. So this means three very good issues of Imperium guaranteed, though you will need to snag copies of all three as the model parts are spread between them. Though at the price of £27 for what is a reasonable size sister detachment I dont see any problem with that.

The canoness model on the mini sprue is also different from the one in the canoness box. Again a saving for a character model but not a crazy deal like the other sisters.

Watch the issue list closely because this is a very good way to start, or bolster a sisters army. It covers most of the basics and with a bit of converting could go a long way. Spam enough of these sets and you will only need vehicles and Retributors for a sizable and varied SoB army. I can see why GW has not released these sprues in a boxset, it would sell too well and eat into much of the range of the army. You get a ten girl Battle Sisters squad, which you can spam as your core with only a little weapons conversion needed, a mini squad or Arcoflagellants and Repentia, both of which mob up well to provide full squads, a Repentia Superior, who can be converted into one of many sisters characters, some say she makes a better Canoness model and I can see why, a five girl Seraphim squad, with no special weapons, worth spamming again, and a single Penitent engine.
I think the sweet spot is to buy three of each of these sprues, get some sisters bits and you have a reasonable sized army. Just add Repentia and holy rhino varients (convert them!) for a Sisters army on the cheap.

The Starter boxset was expensive as it contained the codex, deck and multiple other things. Had these sprues been available I would already have done this, even so I bought two Starter boxsets and dont regret the purchase.


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 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
That's Rowboat Girlyman. You get a primarch in this. Its a cool addition but problematic for balance we might say. I 'converted' my Conquest miniatures into Crimson Fists, I say converted as the exclusive leiutenant had overt Ultramarines iconography cast onto the model. I cant get away with converting Guilliman so I suppose he will have to stay an ultra. I might add a Greyfax miniature (if she isn't in there somewhere already) and have a 'wandering adventurer' Guilliman that I can add to my Imperial armies as and when I want to totally imbalance everything.

Guilliman has visited Rynn's World and high-fived Cantor, so it's reasonable that he could be fielded alongside Crimson Fists.

That's true, if I remember from an enthusiast who told me about the book there was a scene where Guilliman encouraged Pedro Cantor and said that knowing Rogal Dorn well he would certainly be proud of him and his chapter.

This helps as I have held back from buying Mortarion for a now fairly large Death Guard army bought from multiople ebay sprues of Dark Imperium plus Conquest subscription plus extra cherry picked issues. I have six Blighthaulers, thirty cultists all filthed up, over sixty poxwalkers and enough Death Guard for six squads of seven, plus Blightlords, plus multiples of just about anything else. I stopped short of Mortarion for fairness sake, but with Guilliman to counter I wont feel so bad. I have not seen Mortarion as a model yet, frankly I didnt like what I have seen, but I hear he is more impressive than the photos give credit for.

That Canoness also isn't available anywhere outside of that long-OOP box, so that's nice.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
This really does show how bull gak GW's prices are.

£34.50 for 3 Skorphek Destroyers + Plasmacyte

-or-

£8.99 for 3 Skorphek Destroyers + Plasmacyte, a full colour magazine, map sheets and a pot of paint.

Being fair this is a 'loss leader', though it will still make a profit. There will be issues where you only get the pot of paint, I will take that hit to get the full subscription mag run as I did last time with Conquest. The good issues I will buy multiples of. GW are cool with this, they make good money out of Hachette and it is a good hobby intro also. £720 for the whole campaign is a fair amount of splash, spread over many months so that it doesnt hurt so much.
Also from Conquest, Hachette made their money back point by issue 4, according to sources from GW, out of subscription only. These bonus issue sales are raw profit. No wonder they came back for more.

Also yes GW is expensive, but I will say this for them. Most of the models, including the full permanently produced range are made in factories in the UK and US where workers get decent wages and conditions in factory spaces with full health and safety considerations. Much of what we buy for less including the Battletech minis we both look forward to are cheaper because they use sweatshop labour in China.