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It's called freedom paper...get it right!

Racerguy180 wrote:
It's called freedom paper...get it right!

I thought that is what we wipe our with . Oh well, learn something new all the time.

Racerguy180 wrote:
It's called freedom paper...get it right!

Also known as foolscap.

I’m so torn about subbing to this one.
On the one hand I have too many models already.
On the other hand I shouldn’t be wasting money.
So I suppose all things considered I should subscribe..

Problem is, I don’t need a lot of it (read: any) really. Conquest and Mortal Realms I ended up selling a lot of the contents off, which although was good, as I made what I kept a lot lower in price (and much was already a deal at £8 an issue). I did have to sit on them for a while to do so and not sure I can be bothered another time.

I think cherry picking will be the way. Maybe just the odd nice character, sprue of sisters as they’re just nice sculpts, then the big good value pieces perhaps.
My last 7 or 8 Conquest issues I did that with just to get the last of my Death Guard characters I needed and such, making it pretty cheap with the one postage bulk order from FP..

I'm aiming to just cherry-picking the Necron stuff. Picked up Indomitus and think it's a perfect excuse to expand into them.

Quick question though, and apologies if already asked, but all the pushing at the minute, you reckon this is all for the trial run? With Conquest and Mortal Realms they did the trial before general release. I'd rather just wait for general release. There's nothing about it on Forbidden Planet yet. The best place to cherry-pick.

Yeah I think trial personally.
No confirmation as they get everyone signed up and then tell you it was just a trial.

However, if it was full release, then likely FP and the Hachette site would have it in there..

Yep this will be the trial, if it were the main release it would be all over the GW social media pages

I don't know why they even bother with a trial run.
They are asking: Do space marines sell?

Do drugs? Does cola?

 Orlanth wrote:
I don't know why they even bother with a trial run.
They are asking: Do space marines sell?

Do drugs? Does cola?

For Conquest, Space Marines were around 25% of the issues (roughly based on Marine, Death Guard, terrain, paint rotation).

For Imperium, they're sharing that 25% with Nuns and Mechanicus.

By trialling subscribers, are they perhaps gauging the numbers who will likely commit to the full run before deciding how many they will print per issue?

That said, by the end of Conquest, I was the proud owner of three £15.98 Plague Burst Crawlers, four £7.99 Blight Haulers and three cheap as chips Repulsors. Don't ask about the £7.99 Rhinos.

Of course they'll make money.

Hachette broke even on Conquest by edition 4, according to GW management sources. Though this did include predictive sales from subscriptions a percentage of which they would lose to cancellations.

 Orlanth wrote:
Hachette broke even on Conquest by edition 4, according to GW management sources. Though this did include predictive sales from subscriptions a percentage of which they would lose to cancellations.

From launch to the removal of Conquest from the website, Hachette probably broke even due to me.

GW profited after I picked up Mortarion due to Conquest.

I'm eyeiing up cheap Skitarii and the Kataphron Breachers. They'll probably persuade me to buy up an Archeaopter.


How about a £8.99 (worst case spread over two issues) Invader ATV. I certainly wouldn't pay £26.50 for one.

alphaecho wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
I don't know why they even bother with a trial run.
They are asking: Do space marines sell?

Do drugs? Does cola?

For Conquest, Space Marines were around 25% of the issues (roughly based on Marine, Death Guard, terrain, paint rotation).

For Imperium, they're sharing that 25% with Nuns and Mechanicus.

By trialling subscribers, are they perhaps gauging the numbers who will likely commit to the full run before deciding how many they will print per issue?

That said, by the end of Conquest, I was the proud owner of three £15.98 Plague Burst Crawlers, four £7.99 Blight Haulers and three cheap as chips Repulsors. Don't ask about the £7.99 Rhinos.

Of course they'll make money.

Mine was similar, though I actually only got one PBC (as I’m converting two more from Mantic’s Forge Father tanks as they were laying around and I must do things with the stuff I’ve got).
But also. One of each £20 ish character for a little under £7 with the forbidden planet discounts was great.

alphaecho wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Hachette broke even on Conquest by edition 4, according to GW management sources. Though this did include predictive sales from subscriptions a percentage of which they would lose to cancellations.

From launch to the removal of Conquest from the website, Hachette probably broke even due to me.

GW profited after I picked up Mortarion due to Conquest.

I'm eyeiing up cheap Skitarii and the Kataphron Breachers. They'll probably persuade me to buy up an Archeaopter.


How about a £8.99 (worst case spread over two issues) Invader ATV. I certainly wouldn't pay £26.50 for one.

I bought a lot of issue 80. Would an Invader spread over 2 issues not cost £18?

JWBS wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
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How about a £8.99 (worst case spread over two issues) Invader ATV. I certainly wouldn't pay £26.50 for one.

I bought a lot of issue 80. Would an Invader spread over 2 issues not cost £18?

One issue £8.99. The worst case would be if it was spread over two.

So I had some spare time and was curious about what the breakdown will actually look like. I took the list from fauxhammer and broke down what kits and how many sprues per kit there are in it. I count 73 sprues in total, and if it's like previous ones we are looking at about 1/4 of the issues being paint, so some of the issues will have more than one sprue. My guess is models like the cryptek that are split on two small sprues will still come as one issue, and we may see units of three (tomb blades, wraiths etc.) split across two issues rather than three.

Imperium
Firestrike Servo-Turret 1
Outriders 1
Primaris Invader ATV 2
Start Collecting Vanguard 3
Marneus Calgar with Victrix Honour Guard 2
Roboute Guilliman 3
Primaris Librarian in Phobos Armour 1
Primaris Captain  1
Recruit edition sprue of 5 assault intercessors 2
Paint Set Assault Intercessors  1
Primaris Lieutenant  1
Easy Build Primaris Aggressors 1
Sisters of Battle Army Box 4 (originally had 3 but I forgot the cannoness)
Kataphron Destroyers 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
Tech-Priest Dominus 2
Tech-Priest Enginseer 1
Skitarii Rangers 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)

Necrons
Necrons Royal Court 1
Canoptek Spyder 2
Skorpekh Destroyers and plasmacyte 1
20 Necron Warriors and scarabs 2
Paint Set Necron Warriors 1
Royal Warden 1
Flayed Ones 1
Lokhust Heavy Destroyer 1
Necron Destroyer 1
Necron Overlord 1
Triarch Stalker 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
Necron Cryptek 2
Tomb Blades 3
Annihilation Barge / Catacomb Command Barge 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
Canoptek Wraiths 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
Deathmarks 1 (had 2 but it's a multi part sprue)
Chronomancer 2
Necron Lychguard 1 (had 2 but it's a multi part sprue)

Terrain
Munitorum Armoured Containers 3 (1 each)
Haemotrope Reactor 2 (1 each)
Sub-cloister and Storage Fane 4 (2 sets of 2)
Thermic Plasma Conduits 1 (maybe two hard to tell from the picture)

I've probably made some mistakes, but I thought it was interesting it might give some insight on how the breakdown will actually go.

Edit: Fixed the numbers after Arcanum pointed out that some were multipart sprues, rather than sperate sprues. Brings the total sprues to 62, so pretty close to what's expected.

You can add the exclusive Canoness to the list (1) too.

a lot of kits you have listed are frames that come out of the press in one piece and are then snapped to fit in a box. I don't think they are going to split those across multiple issues.

Lord Damocles wrote:You can add the exclusive Canoness to the list (1) too.

Thanks, I updated the numbers.

arcanum wrote:a lot of kits you have listed are frames that come out of the press in one piece and are then snapped to fit in a box. I don't think they are going to split those across multiple issues.

I had a look at the online store to see the sprues, and I thought I had caught all of those, (such as the outriders being one big sprue that's broken into one large and one small), but if any are wrong feel free to let me know which ones and I'll update the numbers.

Thanks for feedback everyone. With what's been said, I'm inclined to think this is a trial. Gotta agree that if this was general release, GW would be all over it.

Though if the frames can be snapped, I suppose they may always do that into the mags

Also, a lot of mention of the paints being 25% of the issues.
But I’d say it’s a lot less as many were in with sprues etc.
there weren’t 20 paint only issues were there? I mean there could have been, I never did full runs of either. But I don’t remember seeing that many.

 ManSizedTarget wrote:

I had a look at the online store to see the sprues, and I thought I had caught all of those, (such as the outriders being one big sprue that's broken into one large and one small), but if any are wrong feel free to let me know which ones and I'll update the numbers.

Think you got most of them.

Danny76 wrote:
Though if the frames can be snapped, I suppose they may always do that into the mags

Also, a lot of mention of the paints being 25% of the issues.
But I’d say it’s a lot less as many were in with sprues etc.
there weren’t 20 paint only issues were there? I mean there could have been, I never did full runs of either. But I don’t remember seeing that many.

I doubt they are going to have their production and packaging set up to have half sprues split between issues, but it is possible. I did a full sub to Conquest (mostly through inertia towards the back third) I cannot remember the break down of pure paint issues, but 20% wouldn't surprise me.

Also noticed that the mocked up front covers all have art on them rather than pictures of models. That is going to make selective issue scalping a bit harder. In conquest and MR if the front of the magazine has models on it they are what is included with the issue.

Issues 1-4 have the models on the cover too.


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Oh also. Some of the conquest issues definitely just had pictures but I think they might have been paint only ones or repeats maybe?
Either way. The blurb at the bottom always said the name of the unit or character in both runs. So I’d assume the same here too.

Apperantly this will also be coming to Canada?



Question was: Will it be available in Canada?
Translation: This collection will be available soon, but we are not able to give the exact date because it is not yet confirmed by the head office

 ManSizedTarget wrote:


Annihilation Barge / Catacomb Command Barge 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
.

This could still come in 2 magazines like rhino in previous(and wasn't repulsor like 3?). While getting 30 pound kit for 9 would be cool it's more likely to go for 18.

 Matrindur wrote:
Apperantly this will also be coming to Canada?



Question was: Will it be available in Canada?
Translation: This collection will be available soon, but we are not able to give the exact date because it is not yet confirmed by the head office

Where’s the screenshot from?


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tneva82 wrote:

 ManSizedTarget wrote:


Annihilation Barge / Catacomb Command Barge 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
.

This could still come in 2 magazines like rhino in previous(and wasn't repulsor like 3?). While getting 30 pound kit for 9 would be cool it's more likely to go for 18.

Yeah for sure that’ll be two issues.
You never got three sprues together in any of the others did you? That I can recall.
Maybe a character would but how it’d get to three screws I don’t know.

tneva82 wrote:

 ManSizedTarget wrote:


Annihilation Barge / Catacomb Command Barge 1 (had 3 but it's a multi part sprue)
.

This could still come in 2 magazines like rhino in previous(and wasn't repulsor like 3?). While getting 30 pound kit for 9 would be cool it's more likely to go for 18.

The Repulsor was officially spread over 4 issues although the fourth was the flight stand and base. Possibly the only 'bummer' issue of the 80 part run.

The one I’m mostly interested in, other than Flayed Ones (pretty much guaranteed to be a single issue) would be Lychguard.


See, they’re not a single sprue, and come in boxes of 5 for £30 RRP. If that’s a single issue, I’ll be having as many as I can snaffle.

1. They’re rock hard in the game.
2. My original ones are victims of Dodgy Plastic Glue, and unplayable fragile as a result.

Danny76 wrote:
Also, a lot of mention of the paints being 25% of the issues.
But I’d say it’s a lot less as many were in with sprues etc.
there weren’t 20 paint only issues were there? I mean there could have been, I never did full runs of either. But I don’t remember seeing that many.

Using this list as a source, I count 15 issues which were paint-only issues, or paint and brush issues, at least. So ~20%, rather than 25%?

I'm undecided on this one, but if I do go in for it, it'll just be a standard sub, not a Premium one.

And Necrons should definitely be easier to figure out a simple scheme to paint up quickly than Death Guard

Danny76 wrote:

You never got three sprues together in any of the others did you? That I can recall.
Maybe a character would but how it’d get to three screws I don’t know.

Its not out until the 24th but issue 57 of Mortal Realms comes with 3 sprues that build a complete set of 5 Hexwraiths or 5 Black Knights. Its currently unavailable on Forbidden Planet so it must've sold out pretty fast.
https://forbiddenplanet.com/317850-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-mortal-realms-57/

I think with infantry sized models they want to give us something that we can start assembling right away, so if all the bits needed to build a model are spread out across multiple sprues then there's a good chance they could all come in a single issue. However if the models are self contained within their own sprues then they'll most likely get split up across 2 or possibly even 3 issues.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
The one I’m mostly interested in, other than Flayed Ones (pretty much guaranteed to be a single issue) would be Lychguard.


See, they’re not a single sprue, and come in boxes of 5 for £30 RRP. If that’s a single issue, I’ll be having as many as I can snaffle.

1. They’re rock hard in the game.
2. My original ones are victims of Dodgy Plastic Glue, and unplayable fragile as a result.

I'm also interested in seeing what happens with the Lychguard, i could see them try and hype them up as an elite unit and stretch them out over 2 issues. God help me if they're a single issue though, there's 4 different load outs in the kit and the collector in me is saying I should be greedy and buy at least 10 of each model...

Skitarri and Kataphron's are the other one's i'm excited about but i think they'll both probably be spread out over two issues.

Mr Gutsy wrote:


Skitarri and Kataphron's are the other one's i'm excited about but i think they'll both probably be spread out over two issues.

Kataphrons will be spread out over 3 issues with 1 mini per issue. They each come on their own sprue unfortunately, so this would be approx. the same price as buying fro ma 3rd party seller. I really hope I'm wrong as I have 15 and would like another 15 but they're a little ££.