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I'm about to have a mini-tournament with friends, and each of us must keep the same list from one game to the next. I am working as fast as I can to paint all my models so that I can get the 10 Victory Points for being fully painted. I am not sure yet that I will succeed.

What happens if, based on my opponent's army composition and my viable secondary objectives, I realize my unpainted models won't make much of a difference? Can I get the 10 VP for a fully-painted army by simply never deploying my unpainted models? Or are they considered part of my army anyway, since they are included in my army list for the tournament?

(My army will be 100% Battle-Forged even without the unpainted models.)

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This is a question for your tournament organizer.

My 2 cents: the unpainted models are part of your army. No points for you. If you'd rather play with a handicap to get those 10 points, leave the models off your list for the entire tournament.

This is pretty odd rule that will have a lot of corner cases that are not gone into at all in official rules.

Basically you need to ask the organisers of the tournament as its entirely up to them to decide.

Their House, Their Rules. TO's can choose to do what they please, so the only way to know is to ask the TO of a particular tournament.

There are no rules for simply "not deploying" a unit. The closest you can get is putting them in Strategic Reserves (or elsewhere, if they have an appropriate rule), but then not setting up in time and therefore being destroyed. Even if you do this, they're still part of your army and so your army does not meet the Battle Ready standard.

Definitely something to check with the TO, but I'd be leaning towards saying no, you don't get the VPs.

Are they even going to include the rule would be my first question. If its just a smaller local informal thing then they already know you're working toward painting your army and if most are in the same boat they might just ignore the rule.

It's really only there to help GW drive painting sales and encourage people to field painted armies. Otherwise its not a critical point of game balance to have it or not.

If you're using the rules exactly as printed, then the verbiage is if "every model in your army" is painted to a Battle Ready standard.

Debates over Battle Ready aside, you've answered your own question in your OP. The unpainted models are in your army, so would need to have been painted to qualify you for the +10VP.

I would just undercoat them and add one or two bit of colour and hope that's enough

Honestly asking: who is showing up to a tournament with unpainted minis? Thats like showing up to a job interview in a ratty t shirt and smelling of booze. You are making an active choice to hurt your chances to achieve your objective, which I assume is to win? If it is not to win, then I retract my question. But honestly, three dabs of different colored paint and bam, 10 VP. At worst you base coat them all, then put a layer coat on, then a highlight. Unless you are playing knights or a titan, it should only cost you around 20 bucks and maybe take a few hours?

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Honestly asking: who is showing up to a tournament with unpainted minis? Thats like showing up to a job interview in a ratty t shirt and smelling of booze. You are making an active choice to hurt your chances to achieve your objective, which I assume is to win? If it is not to win, then I retract my question. But honestly, three dabs of different colored paint and bam, 10 VP. At worst you base coat them all, then put a layer coat on, then a highlight. Unless you are playing knights or a titan, it should only cost you around 20 bucks and maybe take a few hours?

Well its a "mini tournament" between friends not some major event. Heck it sounds pretty informal all told and there are LOADS of these kind of events that happen at clubs all the time (barring covid years...).

Tournament just means a competitive event it doesn't have to be some super formal prize awarding major event.


As for paints the OP clearly outlined that they are already painting their army to their own standard its just not ready in time for the event. That's perfectly fair and lets face it the whole "paint your models for events" rules are there to stop people just playing with a grey sea of models. The spirit of the rule is to encourage painting; the OP is already painting just not fast enough for the event.

Also, I've seen quite a few tournaments moving away from the 3-colour minimum to something that requires armies to be actually painted "properly". So it's not necessarily the case that you can just show up with an army of dudes with 3 spots of colour on and claim the 10VPs for being painted.

I've seen many people show up to tournaments with unpainted models, even when there's a painting requirement and VPs up for grabs. In some cases it may just be you haven't got finished in time and don't have any other options. In other cases a player may have determined the army they plan to take is more powerful than one that's fully painted so they can offset the VP difference through in-game performance.

GW's definition of what is 'Battle Ready' can be found on Warhammer Community:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/21/introducing-battle-readygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/

If you believe that posts on WHC are rules (they arent) you are not allowed to use any kind of edge highlights, no drybrushing, and only technical paints for bases. If your army is painted to parade ready standard, then no 10 VP for you.

 p5freak wrote:
If you believe that posts on WHC are rules (they arent) you are not allowed to use any kind of edge highlights, no drybrushing, and only technical paints for bases. If your army is painted to parade ready standard, then no 10 VP for you.

No. 'Battle Ready is a minimum standard. A model which is 'Parade Ready' or even a Golden Demon winner would still meet the requirements set forth to be 'Battle Ready'.

 p5freak wrote:
If you believe that posts on WHC are rules (they arent) you are not allowed to use any kind of edge highlights, no drybrushing, and only technical paints for bases. If your army is painted to parade ready standard, then no 10 VP for you.

We have as much of an answer as is possible to the question already, no need for "WELL ACTUALLY" nonsense in this thread.

 Ghaz wrote:

'Battle Ready is a minimum standard. A model which is 'Parade Ready' or even a Golden Demon winner would still meet the requirements set forth to be 'Battle Ready'.

No, its not. I would agree if the 10 VP condition would say "to at least battle ready standard", but it doesnt.

Give it up p5freak

What is Battle Ready?

If a model is Battle Ready, it means it’s ready to game with. Battle Ready models have their main areas coloured and an simple finish on their bases.

So by definition, it is impossible to be more than Battle Ready. You either are or you aren't. You an exceed the minimum required to be Battle Ready, but you are still Battle Ready.

 p5freak wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:

'Battle Ready is a minimum standard. A model which is 'Parade Ready' or even a Golden Demon winner would still meet the requirements set forth to be 'Battle Ready'.

No, its not. I would agree if the 10 VP condition would say "to at least battle ready standard", but it doesnt.

As fascinating as all this conversation is, do you seriously think a TO is going to deny a Golden Daemon winning army the 10VPs for being Battle Ready because it's too well painted? We're talking about a subjective criteria here in the first place, so why are you trying to score internet points by being more correct than the next person?

Almost as if Paintjob shouldn't be part of the rules, but them's crazy talk.

As this seems to have been answered, I think we can move on, here.