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Man, what a big fat chunk of awesome! The Lumineth Wind Spirit is glorious, there seems to be a HUGE second wave for them coming. Ah, so excited!

And then the new Warhammer Quest looks so gnarly and old school. Love it! Can’t wait to see more if they’re anything like the Witch Hunter and freako grave digger duder.

Not-Kangaroo-Riders didn't even show up in the preview. Presumably they are even further out?

Damn, that was probably their best reveal thus far.

OK with the sister-suit, not ideal, but not terrible either.

pass on kill team for now.

Lumineth are starting to look very interesting to me.

Must have that Vampire warband, and I've never played Underworlds before.

Warhammer Quest......yes, that is an auto-buy.

was really hoping to cut back on my spending this year, lol.

Sunny Side Up wrote:
Not-Kangaroo-Riders didn't even show up in the preview. Presumably they are even further out?

Nope, GW are just holding things in limbo. They appear in the video in silhouette. They are clearly not a February release so GW is holding back to tease things out over the coming months just like they normally do. Same for why they've not revealed all for Warhammer Quest.


I'd wager March is going to be dominated with Killteam; then after that we'll see Luminth then Warhammer Quest then Vampire army.


Also don't forget with Slaanesh and DoK both getting NEW battletomes we might see 3.0 in the mid year or latter year which might be where Vampires are going.

Sotahullu wrote:
I am kinda shocked that there is going to be so many new Lumineth kits out soon.

Yeah that surprised me. Fyreslayers been waiting more for 5 years, lumineth gets what might be 11 kits with book half a year old

Not that i'm　complaining(wallet is though)


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Sunny Side Up wrote:
Not-Kangaroo-Riders didn't even show up in the preview. Presumably they are even further out?

Or them being already previewed kinda made it redundant. Quite likely deliberate. Gw leak department leaks, then in response to "leak" official preview.

Unlikely wind temple releases gets split.

(also weren't silhouettes seen? Regent kit was at　least)

 Overread wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Overread wrote:
It could also be a Kurnothi instead of a Wanderer.

Seems to have normal legs rather than the deer legs of the Kurnothi.

Hard to tell as the character is crouched and all we can really see are the upper thighs, which are normal for the kurnothi and a human/aelf. With the pose the reverse joint hind leg (or rather raised heel) are going to be hidden from view. If it is from the woods then Kurnothi would fit with GW's current asthetic design direction. Heck I could see Wanderers being slowly morphed/replaced with them as a Sylvanth addition might like how they are twisting High Elves into Lumineth.

Honestly, the thing that people always seem to forget is that Wood Elves did have those kinds of 'stag horn' helmets.

Not convinced the big guy is an ogre. Nothing ogrish about him other than the size. Might as well be an orc. The shoulder plate doesn't match either faction's aesthetic.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Not convinced the big guy is an ogre. Nothing ogrish about him other than the size. Might as well be an orc. The shoulder plate doesn't match either faction's aesthetic.

It does look like a bloodbowl player might have wonderd over via a realmgate to have a look see or on a recruting drive.

Might be a Orc looking to bash some heads or runty Ogre Merc.

Nothing quite interesting in that preview for me, but I'm surprised about the pretty classical looking vampires.

Well, they sold me. I just bought the Lumineth starter box on Amazon for $116...my old High Elves now return. Just need to add vampires and undead and I'll be back to my old warhammer days.

My collected thoughts:

SoB: A better execution of a stupid idea than Centurions and Dreadknights were, but the weedy arms sour them a bit.

WHU Vampires: Mostly cool. Buy.

Kill Team: Jumping on Warcry's less content for a higher price bandwagon, sadly. Pass.

Quest: Exactly what I expected, looks great so far. Other heroes don't seem super interesting. Probably buy.

Warmaster Titan: Very yes.

Furry Elves: Very no.

tneva82 wrote:

Yeah that surprised me. Fyreslayers been waiting more for 5 years, lumineth gets what might be 11 kits with book half a year old

I genuinely think if GW could make everyone forget about Fyreslayers, they would.

Anyway, the fox spirit looks amazing, the cursed city looks amazing, the vampires look amazing. The endless spells look good (aside from the dancing swords, they never look good however many times they try).
The only downside and surprise for me was that Nighthaunts aren't in the Teclis book, and...they need all the help they can get.

40k reveals were fine, sister of battle TAG was fun. Killteam looks neat.

I'm one of those people who was clambering for an SoB Centurion, I kinda thought we got that with the Mortifiers though...

I certainly like its look better than 'penitent engine with sarcophagus' and if them being in good standing means they'll get access to <ORDER> then I can already see potential to take them over Mortis, lets see what their stat block ends up looking like.

As for the model, yeah, it needs work, just like the Centurion did - maybe removing the the gun arm entirely and attaching the HB directly to the shoulder.

Those shoulder guns are most likely either storm or hurricane bolters, just like the Centurion's chest guns - the alternative is clearly some kind of missile - something Sisters don't get to play with on account of them trying to cram them into musical instruments.

Really liking those new vampires.

Only things I'm not a huge fan of are the maces and the expression on the red-armoured one (looks a little goofy to me).

In general, though, really nice models. Quite unexpected, too, given the previous reveals.

Chikout wrote:

 Sabotage! wrote:
So it looks like the Cursed City has it's own website and it confirms there are

6 Heroes for the Good Guys
5 Leaders for the Bad Guys

It also has a cool kind of interactive map where you can scope out various sections of the city (which I imagine will quest locations).

From the video it looks like we have:
Witch Hunter
Some sort of Sylvaneth/Wanderer Archer
Looks like a Kharadon Inventor or something
An Ogre

The Main Vampire
The Gravelord guy
Some sort of female vampire/boss of some sort
Armored Skeletons
Brigands or Vampire Thralls
Zombies that have chunks of earth/masonry attached

From the map there is also a section called "Gheistgale"
That mentions only the spectral dead will go near it, so I'm guessing some sort of Nighthaunt too?

Edit: Also a section mentioned being Bat-infested, so I imagine we will see some fell bats, bat swarms or some sort of varghulf type things.

It says the Witcher hunter is 1/8 if you read his description. That would make it the same as Blackstone fortress.

Right you are! Even better! Nice catch!

Warhammer Quest looks good. Vampires look solid, witchhunter is excellent.

Not fussed about the kangeroos, quite like the antelope riding HQ. Mixed feelings about the fox spirit archer, but that might be me looking at the releases through old world tinted glasses...

Those sisters walker things... JHC, really does feel dialed in. And while everyone dislikes the spindly arms, I cannot unsee that in order for a sister to fit into it, she'd have to have a 4ft wide pelvis. (bury her in a Y shaped coffin, eh Lord Percy?).

That titan though... wow, so, so hot. I LOVE that thing and how it harks back to the old Jes Goodwin sketches of my childhood.

 Darnok wrote:
Well, my first thought was "oh, Infinity style battlesuits for Sisters... okay". If you play Sisters and like this: good for you. Not for me - but not my army anyway.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who went to Adepta Sorori-TAG on seeing that suit.

 VladimirHerzog wrote:
im still waiting on oblits, greater demons and venomcrawler....

Greater Possessed, not greater daemons - and did the Master of Floaty Possession ever get a standalone release?

Voss wrote:
5 flayed ones vs heavy intercessors just seems... unfair.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the comparison looks like in 9th ed stats, as I haven't got the Necron book, but 5 melee-only dudes vs 5 Gravis guys with Big Bolters seems a bit of a mis-match.

 Ghaz wrote:
New Daughters of Khaine battletome...

Spoiler:

Blood Snake is really nicely done. Floating hand/heart is OK, not so sure about the blood/swords combo.

tneva82 wrote:
It just got sneak　peaked...

Does it still count as a "sneak peak" when there are examples in the SM 'dex?

If the setup for the Pariah Nexus board is anything like the Rogue Trader one? It's more Space Hulk than 40k. Tight corridors with limited fire arcs.

Personal take:
The only thing I'm disappointed by? I had hoped for a fox mount for the Wind Temple. It would have been something kind of different and cool while still opening things up for a weird Hyshian bend, like maybe some kind of aether fox or the like.

 Dysartes wrote:


Does it still count as a "sneak peak" when there are examples in the SM 'dex?

There's examples of kt box in codex? I'm referring to kt. These come first there, separate later. Kt just got sneak　peaked. When you expect kt to come? Even if announcement is tomorrow it would be 6.2 in store either. Then 2 weeks to have before separate, 20.2. That would be　hyper fast solo release...

February unlikely to have solo. Gw wants to get kt sales going on.

Umm. Frankly I was expecting more.

Mummy baby-carrier? Meh.

Kill team? Meh.

Titan? Nice model, but don't play Titanicus. Meh.

Good beastman? These Lumineth elves are getting weirder and weirder. Meh.

Only redeemed for me by the vampires in the underworlds warband, and the new WH Quest, which both look awesome.

The titan and the sister suit were easily the best parts of this preview. So very, very Warhammer 40,000.

tneva82 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:


Does it still count as a "sneak peak" when there are examples in the SM 'dex?

There's examples of kt box in codex? I'm referring to kt. These come first there, separate later. Kt just got sneak　peaked. When you expect kt to come? Even if announcement is tomorrow it would be 6.2 in store either. Then 2 weeks to have before separate, 20.2. That would be　hyper fast solo release...

February unlikely to have solo. Gw wants to get kt sales going on.

JWBS was talking about Heavy Intercessors, which you responded to, and I quoted. There are examples of Heavy Intercessors in the SM Dex, which has been out for months at this point, so is it really accurate to say that this is a sneak peak at those models?

I count, what, maybe three new items in the KT box - the board, the "terrain" and maybe the Chronomancer, though I think we've also seen that before as well.

I’m just glad they actually managed to preview stuff we legitimately hadn’t seen before.
Seriously, who the hell saw an ecclesiarchy warsuit coming?
While the wind-sprit was hinted at in lore, nothing leaked beyond very vague rumours, and we got silhouettes of even more stuff.
And of course the new Titan was hoped for and expected after the teasers but definitely impactful.
Of course WHQ was guessed for the mystery system but then so was almost literally every other system they’ve done before and only a very few people got close to the actual content.

So, overall, good job guys.

We’re just getting started for the Adepta Sororitas – in 2021 your faith will be rewarded even further.

Is that... really necessary?
I loved the new plastic Sisters. Bought most of them. Great stuff. Don't really want more to be honest, would rather see, oh I don't know, new plastic Eldar and a replacement of other horrible Finecast kits.
Definitely wasn't waiting for Babycarrier 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Shame about the blood on the magic snake thingy, very nice sculpt otherwise.

Quest looks excellent so far.

 Dysartes wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:


Does it still count as a "sneak peak" when there are examples in the SM 'dex?

There's examples of kt box in codex? I'm referring to kt. These come first there, separate later. Kt just got sneak　peaked. When you expect kt to come? Even if announcement is tomorrow it would be 6.2 in store either. Then 2 weeks to have before separate, 20.2. That would be　hyper fast solo release...

February unlikely to have solo. Gw wants to get kt sales going on.

JWBS was talking about Heavy Intercessors, which you responded to, and I quoted. There are examples of Heavy Intercessors in the SM Dex, which has been out for months at this point, so is it really accurate to say that this is a sneak peak at those models?

I count, what, maybe three new items in the KT box - the board, the "terrain" and maybe the Chronomancer, though I think we've also seen that before as well.

We did. We even saw a preview of the video itself way back in october, so having the flayed ones and a SM kit buried in it isn't a shock. The real question is 'where is the psychomancer?'

In all fairness, KT was probably originally scheduled for closer to the SM release, but the state of shipping, Covid and everything else has caused problems.

New sisters are horrible. Mix of centurion and that horrible gk baby carrier. Not a fan of the cow theme on tje new elves. Looks weird and dont fit the race imo. Now that vampire warband is ace as is the two whq models revealed

Crispy78 wrote:
Umm. Frankly I was expecting more.

Mummy baby-carrier? Meh.

Kill team? Meh.

Titan? Nice model, but don't play Titanicus. Meh.

Good beastman? These Lumineth elves are getting weirder and weirder. Meh.

Only redeemed for me by the vampires in the underworlds warband, and the new WH Quest, which both look awesome.

I definitely wasn't expecting more- there are limits to these previews
I share your indifference to the first couple things, though I actually dislike the Titan. A 'bigger, shootier, more intense' model is inevitably a problem for GW games.

Lumenith is a crazy grab bag of random stuff at this point. Cow elves are out, they're cosplayer elves now. Theme is essentially lol!random, and thats probably one of the worst attempts I've ever seen at a simple concept like 'kitsune archer,' unrivaled by generations of anime and manga artists, and multiple attempts at 'Asian D&D' (either actual D&D or L5R type games).

Underworlds Vampires are flat-out amazing though.

WQ:CC I'm intrigued by. I think both previewed models go a little bit over the top (the designer added just a few too many things- drop the stake launcher and greatsword, and the weird mask, and they'd be aces).
Speaking of the masked guy... I swear I've seen that before, or something very like it.
Ah. I'm thinking of the castle interface from Girl Genius... I think. https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20071012#.YAxcMOhKiUk

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Nothing quite interesting in that preview for me, but I'm surprised about the pretty classical looking vampires.

Maybe GW is realizing that the appeal of 40k and even more of WHFB was that they were clearing houses for all manners of fantasy and sci if trope with a wry smile and a wink.


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 streetsamurai wrote:
New sisters are horrible. Mix of centurion and that horrible gk baby carrier. Not a fan of the cow theme on tje new elves. Looks weird and dont fit the race imo. Now that vampire warband is ace as is the two whq models revealed

This says it for me... the bat haired vamp is kewl but a snag magnet, inviting breakage.
Still not my favorite but much better than cowelves...

Not a fan of the cow theme on tje new elves.

Good thing there wasn't a single cow-themed one among the previewed elves then!

AoS has for a long time mixed in some very classical designs. The Daughters of Khaine Underworld Warband has a very classical design for the Queen leading the warband.

I enjoy it because alongside totally insane fantastical creations, GW is keeping some elements of pose and design of classical elements in there too. It's a great mix.