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**Domandi**

Wow! He is fantastic! I love the original model and this one does it immense justice! If I played demons, this would be an instant buy.

**NightReconnaissance**

I like the little details in the trophies on his wings. There are 40k versions, one skull with an ocular implant and one Primaris head. And there is one that looks like it could be a Marine skull with one of those metal bolts in it.

**Gadzilla666**

So looks like AoS and 40k have shared custody after all. Groovy.

**Isengrim**

Absolutely stunning model.

**SnotlingPimpWagon**

New Belakor is OK, the old one is superior in my opinion- the overall design is just not as busy and somehow he looked more mencaing in smaller scale, can`t really point my finger on to why.
Glad I snatched the old mini while I could, so I don`t have the same gnawing feeling I still have, because I missed the green knight and the old slaanesh champion on foot.
I absolutely hate the new sword, those effect don`t work for me. They look as if the the new vampire hairstyle designer has rummaged through CAD files of Belakor to find a spot to add his signature touch.

**Voss**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
DarkStarSabre wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
Belakor was introduced in Mordheim? Guess it's fitting that he gets a new model when AOS:Mordheim debuts.

Is he going to be changed to some rocks? It certainly looks that way. Cool for a diorama pose, but weird choice for a mobile model to be tied down.

He most certainly was introduced in Mordheim fluff as the Shadowlord in 1999 though no one knew of Be'lakor at the time or what he was or represented. He then cropped up a few years later in the Dark Shadows WFB campaign, again as a background antagonist - The Dark Master. He was only really revealed and fully fleshed out during the now non-canon Storm of Chaos campaign.
Mordheim's "Shadowlord" did later become Be'lakor, or Be'lakor was made out to have been the same character who was the Shadowlord, but this was not actually Tuomas Pirinen's original plan. Whether or not the concept for Be'lakor even existed in the studio at this time, the Shadowlord was a completely independent character with different motivations and goals (though it has thus far not be fully revealed what they are). So, in current canon Be'lakor was retroactively introduced in Mordheim, but at the time, he neither was Be'lakor nor intended to become him, of that makes any sense.

Yeah, he's basically the other half of Nagash (conceptually, not literally), after they chopped up Drachenfels. Nagash got the great necromancer aspect and Be'lakor got the first chaos champion background. That two vague shadowy figures turned out to be Be'lakor totes in disguise is just easy writing. comic book style retcon at its simplest

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Anyway, nice model, some excessive scenic base. Dreadful book cover.
Might make for a great bloodthirster in a decent pose with some leftover bits. Shame no real information attached to the pictures.

**Dysartes**

Tiberius501 wrote:
Wow he’s really cool! Love the alt pose more than his pointing one.

Unless I'm missing something, he's pointing here too.

You could say it's Point Hard 2: Point Harder...

**Voss**

Gadzilla666 wrote:
So looks like AoS and 40k have shared custody after all. Groovy.

I do hope there is a setting neutral option. They did a good job of offering different rocks rather than the dead necron on the indomitus captain, hopefully something similar can be slotted in.

**Shadow Walker**

Amazing model. Would not a Stormcast Eternal body be more fitting than a Chaos Warrior on its base?

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

There is indeed, article confirms ded things are optional.

**Voss**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Amazing model. Would not a Stormcast Eternal body be more fitting than a Chaos Warrior on its base?

Not really. Be'lakor has a lot of reasons to hate other followers of chaos. Especially if they're sworn to Archaon.

Just a touch bitter over whose hat that really is.

**frankelee**

Shadow Walker wrote:
Amazing model. Would not a Stormcast Eternal body be more fitting than a Chaos Warrior on its base?

Keeps it sellable to the no-AoS crowd who still buys and paints models.

**Dysartes**

Needs more Elf skulls - if the Studio is going to be fascinated by the pointy-ears over proper races, they may as well use them properly...

**Gadzilla666**

Voss wrote:
Gadzilla666 wrote:
So looks like AoS and 40k have shared custody after all. Groovy.

I do hope there is a setting neutral option. They did a good job of offering different rocks rather than the dead necron on the indomitus captain, hopefully something similar can be slotted in.

Since both dead guys can be used, I'd guess it wouldn't be a problem to just not use either one. Unless there's a specific slot on the base for them. Be nice to see the sprues.

Edit: Dead guys optional confirmed by Mad Doc Grotsnik.

**Cronch**

He looks..well, just as we expected really, he's been teased enough. Not bad, but a bit unwieldy both on the table and to move (especially if you use public transport)

**jaredb**

It's not a flaming sword It's leaking shadow, as he's the shadow lord!

He looks great!

**Inquisitor Gideon**

He kinda looks more dragonesque than Daemon in a way. I really like it.

**SamusDrake**

What? So Chaos players have to purchase this new Primaris Lieutenant just to get their new daemon prince? Outrageous!

Seriously, he looks badass.

**Dryaktylus**

It's a cool model, sure. But he feels and looks out of place in a Chaos Daemon army unless it's full of black Bloodletters and Furies.

I hope in 40k he gets the option to lead mortal minions without drawbacks.

**Brutus_Apex**

That’s what a daemon Prince should look like.

Incredible model.

Please redo the terrible plastic daemon prince sculpt to look more like this GW.

**Red Corsair**

Gee I wonder how he ended up with all those holes and rips in his wings

**The Power Cosmic**

I always liked the old Be'lakor model and this new one is very nice too. Honestly, I'm more excited that they said the M word, especially with the new WH Quest game coming. Thought we'd never hear it spoken again.

**ph34r**

The Power Cosmic wrote:
I always liked the old Be'lakor model and this new one is very nice too. Honestly, I'm more excited that they said the M word, especially with the new WH Quest game coming. Thought we'd never hear it spoken again.

They said the M word??? I gotta go re-read this article

**VictorVonTzeentch**

They said Mordheim, which isnt the M word I was hoping for.

**ph34r**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They said Mordheim, which isnt the M word I was hoping for.

Blast!

Well, I mean that is cool too. I just wanted the black-and-white-checkerboard type of M-word.

**VictorVonTzeentch**

ph34r wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
They said Mordheim, which isnt the M word I was hoping for.
Blast!

Well, I mean that is cool too. I just wanted the black-and-white-checkerboard type of M-word.

Right, that M-word would have been awesome.

**Danny76**

Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
DarkStarSabre wrote:
GaroRobe wrote:
Belakor was introduced in Mordheim? Guess it's fitting that he gets a new model when AOS:Mordheim debuts.

Is he going to be changed to some rocks? It certainly looks that way. Cool for a diorama pose, but weird choice for a mobile model to be tied down.

He most certainly was introduced in Mordheim fluff as the Shadowlord in 1999 though no one knew of Be'lakor at the time or what he was or represented. He then cropped up a few years later in the Dark Shadows WFB campaign, again as a background antagonist - The Dark Master. He was only really revealed and fully fleshed out during the now non-canon Storm of Chaos campaign.
Mordheim's "Shadowlord" did later become Be'lakor, or Be'lakor was made out to have been the same character who was the Shadowlord, but this was not actually Tuomas Pirinen's original plan. Whether or not the concept for Be'lakor even existed in the studio at this time, the Shadowlord was a completely independent character with different motivations and goals (though it has thus far not be fully revealed what they are). So, in current canon Be'lakor was retroactively introduced in Mordheim, but at the time, he neither was Be'lakor nor intended to become him, of that makes any sense.

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EDIT: and in the meantime, the model was shown!
Certainly like it, but don't love it. The wing-chain-decorations add some extra bling (quite literally), but the chain laundry lines don't quite do it for me. Nice touches on different versions though (laurels v crown, bionics and markings on the 40k skulls etc.). Bright Chaos star on his chest and extra mouth glow looks poor though, thankfully the fantasy version looks better. Unnecessary decorative base perhaps acceptable for a big display model, and not much work needed to get him standing on a normal flat base presumably. Optional left arm is nice enough, wished they had included a non-flaming sword too though. Not perfect, but still one of my favourite larger models they've done in recent times.

Where’s the optional left hand?
I’m just seeing the same one positioned lower right?

**ListenToMeWarriors**

Stunning miniature, but all I can think is how easy it will be to break the chains on his wings when painting, transporting and playing.

**changemod**

I really don’t understand why they’re making greater daemons, daemon primarchs, and now finally ordinary daemon princes basically imperial knight sized. It creates a vast size gulf between them and not only mortals, but lesser daemons too.

**Shadow Walker**

changemod wrote:
I really don’t understand why they’re making greater daemons, daemon primarchs, and now finally ordinary daemon princes basically imperial knight sized. It creates a vast size gulf between them and not only mortals, but lesser daemons too.

For example Bloodthirster is said to be about 10 metres tall so his model should be huge. Same with the others.