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Been Around the Block





Can y'all critique this list for me? No warlord trait, going to use tank ace payload on both manticores.


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [65 PL, 12CP, 1,150pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Catachan

+ HQ +

Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken [4 PL, 80pts]: Bionic Arm with Devil's Claw, Frag & Krak grenades, Plasma pistol, Shotgun

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Frag grenades, Laspistol, Warlord

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Ministorum Priest [2 PL, 40pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Laspistol

Sergeant Harker [3 PL, 55pts]: Frag grenades, Krak grenades, Payback

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [20 PL, 320pts]
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (Leman Russ), Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (Leman Russ), Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (HS), 4x Storm Eagle Rockets

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Heavy Bolter, Stat Damage (HS), 4x Storm Eagle Rockets

++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [45 PL, -3CP, 850pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]

Regimental Doctrine: Gunnery Experts, Spotter Details

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 235pts]: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

Tank Commander [12 PL, 235pts]: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

Tank Commander [12 PL, 235pts]: Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Stat Damage (Leman Russ Commander), Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 55pts]
. 9x Guardsman: 9x Lasgun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Scion: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 45pts]
. 4x Scion: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Hot-shot Lasgun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Hot-shot Laspistol

++ Total: [110 PL, 9CP, 2,000pts] ++
   
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you might want psykers .... useful powers and deny rolls
   
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London

I agree, I'd downgrade one of the TCs to a regular Russ, use the spare points to get a Psyker. A couple of special weapons in your Guardsmen squads could be handy too.

I'm not sure what the point of the Tempestus Squads are. You have no special weapons or Tempestor for the Regiment bonus or orders.
   
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 Valkyrie wrote:
I agree, I'd downgrade one of the TCs to a regular Russ, use the spare points to get a Psyker. A couple of special weapons in your Guardsmen squads could be handy too.

I'm not sure what the point of the Tempestus Squads are. You have no special weapons or Tempestor for the Regiment bonus or orders.


Looking at it, I would guess because two base Scions squads are 20pts cheaper than two base Infantry squads, allowing them to just fit in the 3 Troops selections minimum of a Battalion and 2000pts.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I'm also not sure if you can give up a Warlord Trait for an extra Tank Ace choice. If that's legal or you can take multiple Tank Aces for the regular 1cp per, I'd love to know for my own IG.

My suggestions would be to remove one of the Tank Commanders for a Primaris Psyker and extra Leeman Russ of your choice in the main Battalion. Then, change the second Battalion to a Patrol and move the Leman Russ squad into it from the Battalion. After that eliminate the Scions squads in the Patrol Detachment and give it the Emperor's Fist Tank Company specialist detachment (http://wahapedia.ru/wh40k9ed/factions/astra-militarum/#Emperor-s-Fist-Tank-Company), granting the HEIRLOOM OF CONQUEST: HAMMER OF SUNDERANCE to one of the remaining Tank Commanders (since you don't seem to have a relic in your list yet) as well as giving the Patrol's remaining Infantry Squad a Heavy Weapon Team to benefit from the Spotter Details Doctrine (Heavy Bolter or Lascannon depending on if you are facing an Infantry or Armor heavy opponent respectively). Perhaps give the Patrol Infantry squad a Chimera with Heavy Bolter (turret) and Heavy Flamer (hull) to further maximize the doctrine benefits, if the points allow.

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Automatically Appended Next Post:
Here, I went through and remade it with my suggested changes:


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [48 PL, 11CP, 910pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Catachan

+ Stratagems +

Tank Ace [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken [4 PL, 80pts]

Company Commander [2 PL, 35pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol, Relic: The Deathmask of Ollanius, Warlord, WT: Grand Strategist

Primaris Psyker [3 PL, 50pts]: Gaze of the Emperor

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Ministorum Priest [2 PL, 40pts]: Chainsword

Sergeant Harker [3 PL, 55pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Heavy Bolter

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [62 PL, -5CP, 1,090pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Regimental Doctrine: Gunnery Experts, Spotter Details

+ Stratagems +

Imperial Commander's Armoury [-1CP]: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, -1CP, 235pts]: Battle Cannon, Emperor's Fist, Field Commander, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Relic (Emperor's Fist): Hammer of Sunderance, WT (Emperor's Fist): Unflinching Resolve

Tank Commander [12 PL, 230pts]: Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 70pts]
. 6x Guardsman: 6x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Heavy bolter
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 480pts]: Emperor's Fist
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [5 PL, 75pts]: Heavy Flamer, Multi-laser

++ Total: [110 PL, 6CP, 2,000pts] ++

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If you don't think you'll need the Vox in your main force since you'll be throwing your Commander into melee alongside them, then you can switch each Vox to a Special Weapon for the same cost.
You could also take them out for Dozer Blades on all your Russ to make the Steel Phalanx Stratagem even more useful. It wouldn't affect the Strat itself, but it would make all those charging Russ a bit better in the following Fight phase.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
So actually I went ahead and made the changes again. Here's your new list based more on the close combat focused list you seemed to be going for:


++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [48 PL, 11CP, 915pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)

Detachment Command Cost

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Catachan

+ Stratagems +

Tank Ace [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken [4 PL, 80pts]

Company Commander [2 PL, 40pts]: Laspistol, Power sword, Relic: The Deathmask of Ollanius, Warlord, WT: Grand Strategist

Primaris Psyker [3 PL, 50pts]: Gaze of the Emperor

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 60pts]
. 8x Guardsman: 8x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Elites +

Ministorum Priest [2 PL, 40pts]: Chainsword

Sergeant Harker [3 PL, 55pts]

+ Heavy Support +

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter

Manticore [8 PL, 145pts]: Heavy Bolter

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [62 PL, -4CP, 1,085pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]

Regimental Doctrine: Gunnery Experts, Spotter Details

+ Stratagems +

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, -1CP, 230pts]: Emperor's Fist, Field Commander, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon, WT (Emperor's Fist): Unflinching Resolve

Tank Commander [12 PL, 230pts]: Emperor's Fist, Heavy Bolter, Plasma Cannons, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 70pts]
. 6x Guardsman: 6x Lasgun
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Heavy Weapon Team: Heavy bolter
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Heavy Support +

Leman Russ Battle Tanks [30 PL, 480pts]: Emperor's Fist
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon
. Leman Russ Demolisher: Heavy Bolter, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon

+ Dedicated Transport +

Chimera [5 PL, 75pts]: Heavy Flamer, Multi-laser

++ Total: [110 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++

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