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 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

Is magnetizing basic guards-men really even an option/ worthwhile? I can obviously see magnetizing options on your tanks or some of the bigger elite infantry, but basic guards-men?

bat702 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

Is magnetizing basic guards-men really even an option/ worthwhile? I can obviously see magnetizing options on your tanks or some of the bigger elite infantry, but basic guards-men?

Usually just sergeants and special/heavy weapons teams so you can play around with loadouts. Maybe your voxmen if you really want to save some points. Bog standard lasgun+flak armor Guardsmen, no, there's no real point to doing it unless you want to experiment and you've got more Guardsmen than you're going to run and don't have anything else to experiment with.

Karol wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 waefre_1 wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:
...Superglue's also handy as a first-aid tool if you poke yourself with a hobby knife, which plastic glue doesn't really help with, unfortunately.

If you're poking yourself badly enough that a band-aid isn't enough to do the trick, I think you'd probably want to reach for a phone to get a ride to a hospital instead of the superglue...

No, no, you use the superglue instead of the band-aid. It sticks better, it's more flexible, and it's less obtrusive.

yes, it is also made of toxic chemicals why not intreduce them to an open wound. unless the situation is dire, I would not advice doing it. Specially if you get the glue in to the wound , cut off oxygen supply an bacteria that hate oxygen start multiply in the wound. I have seen a guy go from getting a skin tear in the loin region durning an event, super glue it for necrosis to start 12 hours later on the next day. And removing super glue from a deep cut when necrosis sets in is no fun thing to expiriance.

Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Never use Plastic Glue. You will never be able to change what you've put together.

Always use super glue. You can break it and repose it or change your miniatures if GW arbitrarily decides that they don't want your Plague Marines to have the same options from book to book and now your whole army is illegal.

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

The biggest offender so far for me was when they initially released bullgryns they came in Slab/Grenade or Small shield/Mace (its even in the instructions). The next edition they decided that they could do slab/mace, a far superior combination. For me it was just a matter of popping off the arms and gluing on the alternative arms that I still had in my bits box. Since then I've done a few more times, usually for the sake of conversions or if something didn't quite look right about a pose. I think versatility is always an important thing to have and plastic glue certainly makes it that much harder.

 AnomanderRake wrote:


Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Durning an event ? When this would mean your team getting disqualified, anything short of death , would end up with your trainers forcing you to go on. Heck in professional sports where actual milions are on the line, and not just a few thousand, they will even accept permanant damage and death from participants. And that is how you get sports people keeling over and dieing with a raptured heart "all of the sudden", but they are from big clubs so the all of the sudden isn't really that suprising, considering they get medical check ups daily and bigger stuff on a weekly basis.

Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

Because when you bought the models, they may have not come with the other weapon options or you sold off the other weapons options, because they were horrible. GK players had that problem, at least those with plastic models. For a long time two scimitars were outclassing every other weapon options vs every target. If you played GK you had two scimitars on your PAGK for 3 years. And then GW decided to make scimitar worse and on top of it all cost 4pts. Over night it became the worse option to have on your models.

bat702 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

Is magnetizing basic guards-men really even an option/ worthwhile? I can obviously see magnetizing options on your tanks or some of the bigger elite infantry, but basic guards-men?

I mean, I would rather magnetize than break apart superglue and re-assemble, but I wouldn't even do that for basic guardsmen.

If I had to guess, I'd say most of the folks who are so adamantly against plastic glue aren't ACTUALLY doing what they say they COULD be doing. Or, they ARE doing this, but they're the same folks who don't even paint their models.

I can't imagine anyone who paints their models to even a decent "battle ready" standard wanting the break them apart any time a build becomes sub-optimal. I know I wouldn't even consider it.

Karol wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:


Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Durning an event ? When this would mean your team getting disqualified, anything short of death , would end up with your trainers forcing you to go on. Heck in professional sports where actual milions are on the line, and not just a few thousand, they will even accept permanant damage and death from participants. And that is how you get sports people keeling over and dieing with a raptured heart "all of the sudden", but they are from big clubs so the all of the sudden isn't really that suprising, considering they get medical check ups daily and bigger stuff on a weekly basis.

...How does that apply to hobby knife injuries?

And yes, go to the hospital if you have a serious injury. Your sports team is going to lose anyway if you try to play through it.

Karol wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:


Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Durning an event ? When this would mean your team getting disqualified, anything short of death , would end up with your trainers forcing you to go on. Heck in professional sports where actual milions are on the line, and not just a few thousand, they will even accept permanant damage and death from participants. And that is how you get sports people keeling over and dieing with a raptured heart "all of the sudden", but they are from big clubs so the all of the sudden isn't really that suprising, considering they get medical check ups daily and bigger stuff on a weekly basis...

I'm no longer sure what we're talking about. You have trainers that force you to go on while you're bleeding profusely from the groin playing Warhammer?

(You know professional sports have team doctors and on-site medical facilities because they don't want people keeling over and dying on the pitch, right?)

 AnomanderRake wrote:

Karol wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:


Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Durning an event ? When this would mean your team getting disqualified, anything short of death , would end up with your trainers forcing you to go on. Heck in professional sports where actual milions are on the line, and not just a few thousand, they will even accept permanant damage and death from participants. And that is how you get sports people keeling over and dieing with a raptured heart "all of the sudden", but they are from big clubs so the all of the sudden isn't really that suprising, considering they get medical check ups daily and bigger stuff on a weekly basis...

I'm no longer sure what we're talking about. You have trainers that force you to go on while you're bleeding profusely from the groin playing Warhammer?

(You know professional sports have team doctors and on-site medical facilities because they don't want people keeling over and dying on the pitch, right?)

No no, Karol lives in Poland, we all know "Running Man" is a typical sport over there.

Pretty sure someone described it as the Thunderdome once.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:

Karol wrote:

 AnomanderRake wrote:


Disclaimer: I'm suggesting superglue as an alternative for band-aids for minor pokes in the finger. If something's gone wrong in the loin region absolutely go to a hospital.

Durning an event ? When this would mean your team getting disqualified, anything short of death , would end up with your trainers forcing you to go on. Heck in professional sports where actual milions are on the line, and not just a few thousand, they will even accept permanant damage and death from participants. And that is how you get sports people keeling over and dieing with a raptured heart "all of the sudden", but they are from big clubs so the all of the sudden isn't really that suprising, considering they get medical check ups daily and bigger stuff on a weekly basis...

I'm no longer sure what we're talking about. You have trainers that force you to go on while you're bleeding profusely from the groin playing Warhammer?

(You know professional sports have team doctors and on-site medical facilities because they don't want people keeling over and dying on the pitch, right?)

No no, Karol lives in Poland, we all know "Running Man" is a typical sport over there.

Sheesh, no wonder my great grandfather immigrated to the U.S.

 Gert wrote:
Pretty sure someone described it as the Thunderdome once.

In fairness I was specifically referring to the venue at which Karol played 40k, not the entirety of his existence.

I may have been underselling it apparently.

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

I do it, but it doesn't happen enough to bother magnetizing smaller parts. For example, my Tac Squads carried Grav-Guns during 6th and 7th. 8th was the era of the Plasmagun so I popped off the Grav and stuck Plasma on. Haven't changed it since.

I have a 10 man squad of Sternguard that went from all combi-plas to all combi-melta for 7th, and then all to SI Bolter for 8th. I've got a whole collection of painted up special/combi-weapons ready to go if I need them.

I might magnetize eventually but the frequency of change is low and I like that the parts feel solidly attatched instead of having a little wiggle in them.

As I build more Vanguard/ASMs I might magnetise. Larger contact surfaces make for easier work and stronger magnets.

Just commit to it and make peace with your decision!


But yes, magnets if you're so inclined.

I've never wanted to break a weapon off(intentionally) and anything larger than Infantry gets magnets/other methods.

It's been a while since we had a thread where every single reply is off-topic. From what I understood, the actual topic is Easy-to-build models, not choice of glue.

I would very much prefer if the whole 40k range was consistent but we all know that is not happening ever. The optimal scenario would be if majority (if not all) armies had affordable and simple troop models that would be included in starting bundles. They wouldn't even have to be push-fit per se but simple models with relatively few parts similar to GSC model from Overkill or CSM or Primaris Vanguard from Shadowspear.

Those new to the hobby don't generally care about options, they want models that don't take ages to build. All non-elite armies in 40k deserve kits that are good for army building. Full option multipart kit can co-exist but there is no need why Imperial Guardsmen or Ork boy needs to be 5 parts when equally good looking model can be made in 2 or 3 parts.

bat702 wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Does people really broke off models that they have carefully painted just because GW nerfed them?

That seems so... anathema to whats this is all about. If you are gonna do that, why not just magnetize?

Is magnetizing basic guards-men really even an option/ worthwhile? I can obviously see magnetizing options on your tanks or some of the bigger elite infantry, but basic guards-men?

For most infantry models I just keep them as is and mix and match them in the configuration I'mm gonna do. I'll have probably 8 lass cannon marines, 12 plasma cannon ones, grav cannons, heavy bolters, and a gak ton of bolter marines. I don't see it as worth it to magnetize them unless you are playing something like grey knight squads were all the squad can have the same weapon and they change rules.