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 Oguhmek wrote:
Also, this is supposed to be Octarius, right? Would be weird to introduce Armageddon Steel Legion in a completely different war zone.

Btw is Krieg located near Octarius?


Krieg and Octarius are in completely different Segmentums, so no
   
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 Oguhmek wrote:
Also, this is supposed to be Octarius, right? Would be weird to introduce Armageddon Steel Legion in a completely different war zone.

Btw is Krieg located near Octarius?


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 Oguhmek wrote:
Also, this is supposed to be Octarius, right? Would be weird to introduce Armageddon Steel Legion in a completely different war zone.

Btw is Krieg located near Octarius?


Not really - it is located in Uhulis which mean there is pretty much the entire Segmentus Tempestus between the two sectors.

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Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
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Maybe generic Great Coats, or Baran Regiments, or they tell us that Krieg has not a unique Equipment-Design...

There was a third Named Great Coat wearing IG Thema - Regiments from Baran, they were in Design the "precursor" for the Regiments from Krieg and were introduced with Epic Armagedone.

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I thought the Baran Seige masters came out after the armageddon mini-codex, which is when Krieg first appeared in the illustrations and background (as alternative clour scheme for the Steel Legion).

   
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Goose LeChance wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
Resting One wrote:
Some folks seem to think this might be Steel Legion, instead of DKOK.

It might make more sense in light of so much Ork.


It'll be hilarious when the big reveal that everyone is getting worked up about turns out to be that the resin DKoK are going back up for sale on Forgeworld.


That would be better than a Warcry style box to be honest.

DKoK would be a top selling army in full plastic, they should just commit to it. No need to test the waters with a monopose skirmish box.

I don't understand why GW holds 40k back so hard by ignoring their outdated model lines.


Yeah, they are hugely popular, the only thing that holds most people back from buying the FW Krieg models is the cost. A plastic kit would sell like hot cakes.

 
   
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RazorEdge wrote:
Maybe generic Great Coats, or Baran Regiments, or they tell us that Krieg has not a unique Equipment-Design...

There was a third Named Great Coat wearing IG Thema - Regiments from Baran, they were in Design the "precursor" for the Regiments from Krieg and were introduced with Epic Armagedone.


Or we are reminded regiments aren't restricted to single planet and you can find regiments raised in planet x elsewhere

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 ImAGeek wrote:
Resting One wrote:
Some folks seem to think this might be Steel Legion, instead of DKOK.

It might make more sense in light of so much Ork.


The guardsman in the background of the preview banner thing is definitely DKoK rather than Steel Legion. The small details are consistent with the former rather than the latter (ridge at the top of the helmet, helmet that comes down the side of the face, separate goggles rather than the one piece goggles of the Steel Legion, shoulder armour).







Not saying they will do this, but did you ever consider the possibility that redesigned Armageddon Steel Legion might have a different helmet, goggles, and gasmask?

CoALabaer wrote:
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The steel legion are old models, and kreig are more recent but resin. That krieg head on the picture looks more like a warhammer+ animation model than a 28mm model.

Various regiments share equipment in the fluff. If gw is making a new kit for guard in plastic, there is no reason to assume that it will be a 1 - 1 match of the resin krieg. Could be a blend of kreig and steel legion to be used as either and tap into the great coat guard market.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
The steel legion are old models, and kreig are more recent but resin. That krieg head on the picture looks more like a warhammer+ animation model than a 28mm model.

Various regiments share equipment in the fluff. If gw is making a new kit for guard in plastic, there is no reason to assume that it will be a 1 - 1 match of the resin krieg. Could be a blend of kreig and steel legion to be used as either and tap into the great coat guard market.


I feel like in that case neither DKoK OR Steel Legion fans will buy it...

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My personal take is that DKoK in plastic isn't something that is going to happen - maybe they will get some updates rules as a "regiment of renown" in the new campaign book like others have been getting, but i reckon that DKoK will be one of the very last things that go from resin to plastic, shortly before FW packs in completely.
   
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Why??? DKoK is/was wildly popular for a forge world release, and a plastic version of them probably would be a hit for GW.

I'm actually surprised that they still haven't been made in plastic

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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039 
   
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If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.

DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.
   
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Kdash wrote:
If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.

DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.


Technically it's 3 types of Power Armoured Marines, 2 Terminator types and a Dreadnought that crossed over

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Kdash wrote:
If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.

DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.


Trygon and Valkyrie were swapped over, so close to the resin that the original plastic ball box actually had the fw model on the cover. But then gw stopped porting kits over in favor of making their own alternate designs.
   
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The Tau Piranha came also from Forgeworld...
   
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Fair enough, more than i realised, but, i still see this leaning more towards them getting supplemented rules, rather than a plastic kit.
   
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Spoiler:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Resting One wrote:
Some folks seem to think this might be Steel Legion, instead of DKOK.

It might make more sense in light of so much Ork.


The guardsman in the background of the preview banner thing is definitely DKoK rather than Steel Legion. The small details are consistent with the former rather than the latter (ridge at the top of the helmet, helmet that comes down the side of the face, separate goggles rather than the one piece goggles of the Steel Legion, shoulder armour).







Not saying they will do this, but did you ever consider the possibility that redesigned Armageddon Steel Legion might have a different helmet, goggles, and gasmask?


We saw an Armageddon Steel Legion Sergeant (or some sort of officer) as part of the concept art for the video game Darktide, and there isn't really any difference in uniform between that and the original model.

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Kdash wrote:
If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.

DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.


Hydra, baneblade and it's variants. Valkyrie maybe?

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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
so close to the resin that the original plastic ball box actually had the fw model on the cover.


Huh, I always wondered why my plastic Trygon didn't entirely match up with the box artwork.

tneva82 wrote:
Kdash wrote:
If they were finecast models, then i would agree with you, but, unless i am wrong, the only models that have crossed over from FW resin to GW plastic is the 2, soon to be 3, types of power armoured marines.
DKoK are a steady product for them, and a specialist force within the game. They aren't going to get their own codex, or get included in the Guard one due to being so different. At best they will get a supplement. GW will probably take over the writing of said supplement, but i personally wouldn't say that makes them top of the list for conversion into plastic.

Hydra, baneblade and it's variants. Valkyrie maybe?


Valkyrie definitely. Manticore too. IIRC half of the Leman Russ variants and a couple of the artillery options were also originally FW designs.

Theres been lots ported over, just not much recently.

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Two days to go, and a pic of a nice blade to go with it.

Spoiler:

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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Spoiler:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Resting One wrote:
Some folks seem to think this might be Steel Legion, instead of DKOK.

It might make more sense in light of so much Ork.


The guardsman in the background of the preview banner thing is definitely DKoK rather than Steel Legion. The small details are consistent with the former rather than the latter (ridge at the top of the helmet, helmet that comes down the side of the face, separate goggles rather than the one piece goggles of the Steel Legion, shoulder armour).







Not saying they will do this, but did you ever consider the possibility that redesigned Armageddon Steel Legion might have a different helmet, goggles, and gasmask?


We saw an Armageddon Steel Legion Sergeant (or some sort of officer) as part of the concept art for the video game Darktide, and there isn't really any difference in uniform between that and the original model.


Also, why would they redesign the Steel Legion to look exactly like the DKoK?
   
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 ImAGeek wrote:
 Mentlegen324 wrote:
Spoiler:
chaos0xomega wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
Resting One wrote:
Some folks seem to think this might be Steel Legion, instead of DKOK.

It might make more sense in light of so much Ork.


The guardsman in the background of the preview banner thing is definitely DKoK rather than Steel Legion. The small details are consistent with the former rather than the latter (ridge at the top of the helmet, helmet that comes down the side of the face, separate goggles rather than the one piece goggles of the Steel Legion, shoulder armour).







Not saying they will do this, but did you ever consider the possibility that redesigned Armageddon Steel Legion might have a different helmet, goggles, and gasmask?


We saw an Armageddon Steel Legion Sergeant (or some sort of officer) as part of the concept art for the video game Darktide, and there isn't really any difference in uniform between that and the original model.


Also, why would they redesign the Steel Legion to look exactly like the DKoK?


Who says they did? Theres more to the DKoK than their helmets and gasmasks.

Also, they already redesigned the Armageddon Steel Legion to be Ork Hunters without gasmasks or longcoats as of the current guard codex, no reason they can't redesign them again to look like something else.

For all we know - *if* theres new guard minis being announced (still a big if), they may be a wholly new regiment - i.e. neither Armageddon Steel Legion nor Death Korps of Krieg.

CoALabaer wrote:
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I don't know what's going on, but it would be massively unwise to tease with DKoK/IG pics if new plastic version isn't actually happening. Because at this point people will expect that and will be massively disappointed if it turns out to not be the case.

   
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 Ghaz wrote:
Two days to go, and a pic of a nice blade to go with it.

Spoiler:

Same sword?
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Similar but not the same
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Similar but not the same


Definitely being held by someone in a long coat and a gloved hand. I'm bracing for lots of people to be disappointed regardless.
   
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 Daedalus81 wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Similar but not the same


Definitely being held by someone in a long coat and a gloved hand. I'm bracing for lots of people to be disappointed regardless.


People being disappointed by a GW reveal? Are you sure we're thinking of the same community?
   
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 GaroRobe wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Similar but not the same


Definitely being held by someone in a long coat and a gloved hand. I'm bracing for lots of people to be disappointed regardless.


People being disappointed by a GW reveal? Are you sure we're thinking of the same community?


Even if it is a straight 1-1 port, plastic Kreig would be at most 10 poses, vs the 40-50 poses in resin. Thus, awful.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 GaroRobe wrote:
 Daedalus81 wrote:
 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Similar but not the same


Definitely being held by someone in a long coat and a gloved hand. I'm bracing for lots of people to be disappointed regardless.


People being disappointed by a GW reveal? Are you sure we're thinking of the same community?


Even if it is a straight 1-1 port, plastic Kreig would be at most 10 poses, vs the 40-50 poses in resin. Thus, awful.


Yeah but at least all 10 of them would be cast properly instead of 1 in 5

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