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2023/04/24 17:46:58
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Beardedragon wrote: What does a good Stompa list look like? I know "good" is a relative term when relating to bringing a Stompa (or kustom stompa). But i just got my hands on one, after a long time, and im still trying to find out how to really field it for my fun games. SInce it takes up a decent chunk of points, i cant really seem to find out if going hard on infantry or vehicles makes most sense.
I thought about Deff dreads but i sadly only have 3.
To me it looks like just overloading the list with stuff draws the multi-damage stuff away from the stompa while bringing stormboyz and kommandoz for disruption.
oh no you just brought back my repressed memories of him beating me up with his kustom stompa since i attended that tournament Killed 3 rigs over the span of 2 turns and i had no terrain to hide behind. But yes, that list definitely have a lot of deff dreads.. 6 to to be precise. I only have 3 :/
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2023/04/24 21:24:20
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Kanz, MANz, squig riders and even kill rigs all seem like good substitutes.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/25 13:43:09
Subject: Re:Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
It's the very same as the shokk rifle of the SJD - due to its size, I somehow doubt that it will be on an infantry model.
So maybe a new vehicle or walker?
Codex Mekka Dread?
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/25 18:44:19
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Someone on reddit actually made good point - Ufthak Blackhawk, the protagonist of the Burtal Kunnin novel (who also shortly appears in "Warboss") actually wields a shokkrifle he tore of a SJD as his weapon.
So it might be a mini that goes along with the next ork novel.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/25 18:46:58
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Jidmah wrote: Someone on reddit actually made good point - Ufthak Blackhawk, the protagonist of the Burtal Kunnin novel (who also shortly appears in "Warboss") actually wields a shokkrifle he tore of a SJD as his weapon.
So it might be a mini that goes along with the next ork novel.
Yeah, I could see that, given that they've been doing a lot of cross promotional models with recent book series like Primaris Uriel Ventris, the Cadian Shock Trooper lady and Gaunt's Ghosts.
2023/04/25 19:25:19
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Orks have done well with model waves… we really only need in plastic
big Mek w kff option
Tabkbustas (w new spanner blah)
A handful of named characters (zagstrukk, weirdboy, badruk, maddoc, nob w banner)
Or something new like the black library character or something completely new like a meka dread HQ option.
2023/04/25 19:31:57
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Yeah, thankfully we've been pretty well updated as far as our model range goes, even if most of our rules that correspond with them leave a lot to be desired. I would love to have a Meka Dread or some type of Mekboss HQ that ties into more of a Dred WAAAGH! archetype in our army now that they've already set up Beast Snaggas as the past new thing.
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2023/04/25 20:12:42
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
If primaris marines and old marines are being integrated for simplicity I assume beastsnaggas will be as well.
My guess that preview is a character for black library or the missing big Mek w kff option (or ideally both). I’m still surprised it didn’t get released with the last codex… that model was removed and re-added once they saw the hole in the prior codex. The big Mek w kff has been in a weird spot for a few codex now. Like they appear to want the unit but not the old model.
I too would love a meka dread w dread Waagh option. To be fair speedwaagh should just be rolled into dread Waagh/waaagh. Dread Waagh should he kunnin and waaagh should be brutal. In fact let both Waagh able to be called.
2023/04/25 21:58:27
Subject: Re:Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
My only issue with our releases is how the quality has increased but the usability and options have decreased. Comparing a battle wagon to a dragsta and one kit looks better in duplicates than the other. I mean a dedicated mek will resolve the issue but still.
I'm hoping that rumour engine gun is infantry sized, a high quality assault weapon squad would be nice. Somewhere between a flashgit and a rokkit squad. Maybe mek themed? A Bigmeks personal mekboy lackeys who are all tooled up. Like a step up from the lootas who tend to be a mekboy with some boy mates who he hangs around with and gives dakka to.
Problem is, our line is pretty well developed. Most niche's are already filled. The only two I can think of is fast heavy hitting infantry to be a step up from the stormboyz and heavily armoured dakka infantry to be the sidegrade to meganobz. Maaaaybe some themes are missing, like more flashgit stuff, again flashgit meganobz would fit the bill. The weapon could be that actually. I always thought the beast snaggas were a little unnecessary if still fun.
2023/04/26 02:19:55
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Interestingly, I feel like if they want to continue adding new Ork stuff, it would be more on the grot end side of things. Tying further into grot snipers, having a neutral grot HQ unit, and maybe even a grot skirmishing unit would all be things they could do if they didn't want to step on any existing Ork unit's toes.
2023/04/26 02:35:41
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
I mean there is a ton of retro ork stuff they stopped making… and with squats back retro seems to be in…
Ard boys, eavy armor boys, skar boys, pulsa rokkits, squig catapults, boar boys, trakks, skorchas, ork rokkers, warp’ead, cyborks, mekboys, tinboys, minderz, madboys, splatta kannon, snotlings, ogryns, yoofs, grot teks, spleenrippa, gobsmasha, big lugga, Cutta, stikk bommas, grot launcha, fightas, fighta bomba, heavy bomba, battlefortress, warkopta,… just off the top of my head and not counting named characters or klan boys like snakebite boys, that disappeared….
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2023/04/26 08:14:16
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
I suspect the rumour engine post is going to either be a Grot tank, or more likely a Bad Moons special character.
Nazdreg (despite being "believed dead") would be a good candidate, as would that Ufthak guy who could make a nice stand-in as the defacto Bad Moons character until they work out what's happening with Nazdreg long term.
2023/04/26 08:17:42
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Afrodactyl wrote: Nazdreg (despite being "believed dead") would be a good candidate, as would that Ufthak guy who could make a nice stand-in as the defacto Bad Moons character until they work out what's happening with Nazdreg long term.
Nazdreg appears in the Tau Arks of Omen book. He is very much alive and kicking and is giving Farsight a hard time in the war of dakka before tellyporting away once again.
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/26 09:18:19
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Afrodactyl wrote: Nazdreg (despite being "believed dead") would be a good candidate, as would that Ufthak guy who could make a nice stand-in as the defacto Bad Moons character until they work out what's happening with Nazdreg long term.
Nazdreg appears in the Tau Arks of Omen book. He is very much alive and kicking and is giving Farsight a hard time in the war of dakka before tellyporting away once again.
I have been misinformed then I've not read the AoO fluff yet.
2023/04/26 09:20:13
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
I'm also waiting for 10th so I can get all the discarded books for cheap
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/26 15:31:45
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
panzerfront14 wrote: I sincerely hope we get a few more Ork characters in 10th, would be awesome to get one for each Klan, and one for the various Oddboy "professions".
Our lack of Snakebitez characters was addressed in our last model wave, I believe we're only missing Bad Moonz (Nazdreg is an easy one) and Evil Sunz (bring back Wazdakka!). Especially if they choose to update really old models like Grotsnik, we'd be pretty much set.
2023/04/26 17:57:13
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
He really should have been part of the Beastsnagga wave instead of Zodgrot.
Imagine how awesome a kit would that comes with a squig that has a push-fit slot on top to put on various hats depending on your opponent - a kommissar's cap, a beakie helmet, a aeldari ghost helmet, a daemonic horn, etc...
7 Ork facts people always get wrong: Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other. A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot. Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests. Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books. Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor. Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers. Orks do not have the power of believe.
2023/04/27 06:55:06
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Jidmah wrote: He really should have been part of the Beastsnagga wave instead of Zodgrot.
Imagine how awesome a kit would that comes with a squig that has a push-fit slot on top to put on various hats depending on your opponent - a kommissar's cap, a beakie helmet, a aeldari ghost helmet, a daemonic horn, etc...
everybody send this to gw right now lol
Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings.
2023/04/27 09:04:01
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
Jidmah wrote: He really should have been part of the Beastsnagga wave instead of Zodgrot.
Imagine how awesome a kit would that comes with a squig that has a push-fit slot on top to put on various hats depending on your opponent - a kommissar's cap, a beakie helmet, a aeldari ghost helmet, a daemonic horn, etc...
It would be a better investment for their modelling team than making Primaris Lieutenant #69....
2023/04/29 09:14:10
Subject: Might makes Right! - Codex Orks 2021 Tactics
battlewagon, kannon
battlewagon, zzap gun
bonecruncha, kannon
3x deff dreads; 3kmb, 1 klaw on each
5 lootas, mek
6 flashgitz
Daemons had:
Spoiler:
named khorne demon prince character with -1 to hit, wound and damage, and an ignores-invulns sword.
another named khorne demon prince character, who just had boatloads of wounds.
Bloodthirster
10 bloodletters
tzeench chariot disc thing
3 x 6 flamers
2 x 5 hellhounds
I got turn 1 so proceeded to make a big show of my wagons whilst my grots got the objectives. wiped the bloodletters and hounds in one turn, most of the flamers by turn 2. Managed to keep scoring throughout, and by the end of turn 5, he had all 3 big demons still moving, and I had a single deff-dread. I won on points, 74 to 64. It was pretty close. Very fun game. My takeaways werE:
1: I forgot rokkits were D3 now. Shows how out of touch I am.
2: Lootas kinda suck, still.
3: Flash Gitz should not go against high toughness -1 to everything monsters. They were wasted.
4: Pinning big demons in combat with grots is effective if there's enough nearby for them to not be able to kill them all. Had 2 grots hold the demon prince through his turn.
5: Board control is everything. I'm so glad I went with my gut and tried to clear off the lighter chaff first, so that even if the big daemons are killing stuff, I am scoring points!
6: 3 deff dreads with KMB has potential to deal out a lot of hurt. If I had been smarter, I'd have kept the CP and not tellyported them, and had one more turn of shooting from them. That said, they got me "behind enemy lines" every turn after turn 2. I may couple them with 2 solo deffkoptas next time to get it in turn 1 as well. Maybe bigbomm deffkoptas for the flyover.
All tole, I enjoyed it and can't wait for 10th to come out!
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