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 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Clearly the best solution is to stop making bloody Space Marines.

But, they're the easiest to tweak in the modelling tool, making a simple variant of a model-saturated list slot.
Best solution is to change to a different model entirely, but that takes effort, and leads to cries of army favouritism (until the next one comes out).

I want an epicly-posed Autarch on a jetbike. Never going to happen.

Imagine the winefest if a limited model was an actual FOMO release that is not already available in some form AND an update to an outdated sculpt.

a_typical_hero wrote:
Imagine the winefest if a limited model was an actual FOMO release that is not already available in some form AND an update to an outdated sculpt.

If it was a Spess Mehreen character it'd be hilarious, watching Blandmarine fans seethe would be more amysing than any Black Libary book in the past 5 years.

Damm Nintendo and his Mario merchandising. When my kirby themed stuff or metroid new game?!

 GoldenHorde wrote:



It's absolutely anti-consumer and an anti competitive practice.

Can the consumer obtain this miniature from their independent stockist? No.
Can the independent stockist sell the miniature? No.
Can the consumer obtain this miniature without paying GW $410AUD or "equivalent". No.

Clearly anti-consumer and anti-competitive practice.

Nope.

It is offering the consumer an optional extra. The customer loses zero choices and gains an extra one.

If you personally like or dislike it does not determine if its pro or anti consumer. Its pro consumer.

And one party offering something extra is not anti competition. It improves the offer of one party, it does not reduce the ability of the others to compete. It is pro competition.

What you mean is that you don't like it and you're throwing out words to try and justify that.

 NAVARRO wrote:
I wonder if this was available as standard in store purchase, limited time, for the usual 20£ if anyone would be interested in buying it.

I would, yes. It's a cool scenic base and the whole model is a nice foundation to convert a character out of. I'm going to add a power fist and maybe a jump pack and put him in my Deathwatch.

 Galas wrote:
Damm Nintendo and his Mario merchandising. When my kirby themed stuff or metroid new game?!

Given the last Direct, maybe not the best time for this comparison.

a_typical_hero wrote:
Imagine the winefest if a limited model was an actual FOMO release that is not already available in some form AND an update to an outdated sculpt.

GW could also just offer the model for sale. Maybe that's not convoluted enough though.

Although this is actually a step up from what GW usually does. If it were a GW store FOMO model people would have to spend money just for the privilege of being allowed to buy it.

 phandaal wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
Imagine the winefest if a limited model was an actual FOMO release that is not already available in some form AND an update to an outdated sculpt.

GW could also just offer the model for sale. Maybe that's not convoluted enough though.

Although this is actually a step up from what GW usually does. If it were a GW store FOMO model people would have to spend money just for the privilege of being allowed to buy it.

If a model was available on sale for the general public, how else would we distinguish the Real Fans from the poors and fakers?

Cronch wrote:

 phandaal wrote:

a_typical_hero wrote:
Imagine the winefest if a limited model was an actual FOMO release that is not already available in some form AND an update to an outdated sculpt.

GW could also just offer the model for sale. Maybe that's not convoluted enough though.

Although this is actually a step up from what GW usually does. If it were a GW store FOMO model people would have to spend money just for the privilege of being allowed to buy it.

If a model was available on sale for the general public, how else would we distinguish the Real Fans from the poors and fakers?

It's easy, we'd just wait a few minutes for the Real Fans to call everyone else angry entitled manchildren.

Vorian wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:



It's absolutely anti-consumer and an anti competitive practice.

Can the consumer obtain this miniature from their independent stockist? No.
Can the independent stockist sell the miniature? No.
Can the consumer obtain this miniature without paying GW $410AUD or "equivalent". No.

Clearly anti-consumer and anti-competitive practice.

Nope.

It is offering the consumer an optional extra. The customer loses zero choices and gains an extra one.

If you personally like or dislike it does not determine if its pro or anti consumer. Its pro consumer.

And one party offering something extra is not anti competition. It improves the offer of one party, it does not reduce the ability of the others to compete. It is pro competition.

What you mean is that you don't like it and you're throwing out words to try and justify that.

Yeah, wow, so for real ....a lame fomo mini with a month window....only through their webstore and you have to have $410 or more to get it....that's so damn empowering to customers in an environment where many people are unable to work for their normal revenue.

Totally not a manipulative move by GW.

Get real mate.

4 day window? Isn't this model out for like a month?

I meant to say 4 weeks.

But yeah GW store FOMO is empowering to customers....hahaha


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Pro consumer = making artificial scarcity in a limited window of time and adding massive paywalls ($410) to obtain single minis


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It's a four week window.

You have literally no argument here. If people are so desperate to get it, organize a group buy of items or something.

I still don't see why someone would actually want it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's a four week window.

You have literally no argument here. If people are so desperate to get it, organize a group buy of items or something.

So blaming consumers for dodgy manipulative anti consumer practices is why I don't have an argument or why you don't have an argument?

I got Sergeant Castus coming by purchasing items I planned to purchase anyway (Ork Combat Patrol, Big 'Ead Boss Bunka and some Kruleboyz). I admit that I would rather have supported my local store but they have been struggling to get any new releases at all. The owner places an order every week but they end up getting stuck in courier warehouses for weeks or months.

Usually I prefer to support local store even if they don't offer any discount. It's not a thing around this part of the world.

It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

You don't realise how you're literally describing how manipulative it is, do you? So you're being manipulated to co-opt others to give you their bonus mini.......but that's not manipulative is it now...

It's a %100 FOMO recipe.
High barrier of entry + limited time of availability.

Why restrict it that way in the first place?

 BertBert wrote:
Why restrict it that way in the first place?

Because the injection mold is made out of FOMOtium and only lasts a hot minute


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At least GW's digital scupltors found the mirror function for Sgt Castration and made him a sinister leftie like me, unlike these bozos



Enjoying all the dynamic monopose goodness

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

You don't realise how you're literally describing how manipulative it is, do you? So you're being manipulated to co-opt others to give you their bonus mini.......but that's not manipulative is it now...

It's a %100 FOMO recipe.
High barrier of entry + limited time of availability.

Explain, precisely, what is manipulative about it.

In-depth. Stop just saying "FOMO" and actually explain why it is manipulative.

Because from where I'm sitting? This ain't it, bruh. There's definitely FOMO at work with GW--but there is for every bloody company in the mini business. From models tied to book preorders(CB), event "specials", etc--there's a lot to get riled up over. A tacked on "bonus mini" with a multi-week window that could be covered just by ordering as part of a group or splurging a bit on scenery or the like? That's...not really a thing.

Especially when the model isn't a profile that has not had a model yet, is not a special character with special rules, etc etc.

It's just a variant Sergeant.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

You don't realise how you're literally describing how manipulative it is, do you? So you're being manipulated to co-opt others to give you their bonus mini.......but that's not manipulative is it now...

It's a %100 FOMO recipe.
High barrier of entry + limited time of availability.

Explain, precisely, what is manipulative about it.

In-depth. Stop just saying "FOMO" and actually explain why it is manipulative.

Minimum spend $420 AUD within 4 weeks to obtain, only from GW's webstore.
That's three hoops to jump through.
You know it's kinda also in the thread title....if you bothered to take notice

and under the BS pretense to commemorate the upteenth customer....give me a break.... commemorate something actually worthwhile and meaningful to people please.

Looking at the sprue pic, the arms seem completely primaris standard and thus swappable onto a different sergeant to make him into a Lieutenant or something else.

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
Why restrict it that way in the first place?

Because the injection mold is made out of FOMOtium and only lasts a hot minute


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At least GW's digital scupltors found the mirror function for Sgt Castration and made him a sinister leftie like me, unlike these bozos



Enjoying all the dynamic monopose goodness

Some of those Marines are flipped because they were originally lefties.

And I would know that, because I made the original image! After which, it was expanded upon and posted on Reddit.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 BertBert wrote:
Why restrict it that way in the first place?

Because the injection mold is made out of FOMOtium and only lasts a hot minute


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At least GW's digital scupltors found the mirror function for Sgt Castration and made him a sinister leftie like me, unlike these bozos



Enjoying all the dynamic monopose goodness

Some of those Marines are flipped because they were originally lefties.

And I would know that, because I made the original image! After which, it was expanded upon and posted on Reddit.

Well if they found they mirror function in a repeatable fashion, whats the chance they find out how to move vertices groups one day in order to change the pose?

We can dream...


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Also, this fomo trap model was more important to GW to produce than a whole backlog of minis that need an update because according to the GW apologists, this is "pro-consumer".

Nice one guys, great logic

Because we need another ultrasmurf

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

You don't realise how you're literally describing how manipulative it is, do you? So you're being manipulated to co-opt others to give you their bonus mini.......but that's not manipulative is it now...

It's a %100 FOMO recipe.
High barrier of entry + limited time of availability.

Explain, precisely, what is manipulative about it.

In-depth. Stop just saying "FOMO" and actually explain why it is manipulative.

Minimum spend $420 AUD within 4 weeks to obtain, only from GW's webstore.

Games Workshop trade account orders placed through the web store may qualify for this promotion however for a trade account order to qualify the value of the order must be the Qualifying Order Value after applying any applicable trade discount.

It's right there in the T&C.

You want one but don't want to order directly via GW yourself?
Go to your local shop that has a trade account with GW, and order up some Direct Only items via them. Same thing functionally but you get to Stick It To The Man or whatever it is you're raging against.

That's three hoops to jump through.

Really just two:
-Order X amount
-Order during Y timeframe

Though I guess you can argue three, since some indies don't use trade accounts but rather have 3rd party distribution.

You know it's kinda also in the thread title....if you bothered to take notice

Gee, I must have missed where it was GW that made the thread. Silly me! I guess if I make a thread about 40k Greatest Game Ever it's true too?

and under the BS pretense to commemorate the upteenth customer....give me a break.... commemorate something actually worthwhile and meaningful to people please.

Like what? Thanksgiving? Hanukah? Christmas? Birthdays? Birth of children? Divorces? Weddings?

So many choices!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GoldenHorde wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's four weeks worth of a window for you to place an order.

There's zero "FOMO" present. It's four weeks for you to come up with an order that could reach that threshhold, or to tap in on someone else's order who won't want the model.

You don't realise how you're literally describing how manipulative it is, do you? So you're being manipulated to co-opt others to give you their bonus mini.......but that's not manipulative is it now...

It's a %100 FOMO recipe.
High barrier of entry + limited time of availability.

Explain, precisely, what is manipulative about it.

In-depth. Stop just saying "FOMO" and actually explain why it is manipulative.

Minimum spend $420 AUD within 4 weeks to obtain, only from GW's webstore.

Games Workshop trade account orders placed through the web store may qualify for this promotion however for a trade account order to qualify the value of the order must be the Qualifying Order Value after applying any applicable trade discount.

It's right there in the T&C.

You want one but don't want to order directly via GW yourself?
Go to your local shop that has a trade account with GW, and order up some Direct Only items via them. Same thing functionally but you get to Stick It To The Man or whatever it is you're raging against.

That's three hoops to jump through.

Really just two:
-Order X amount
-Order during Y timeframe

Though I guess you can argue three, since some indies don't use trade accounts but rather have 3rd party distribution.

You know it's kinda also in the thread title....if you bothered to take notice

Gee, I must have missed where it was GW that made the thread. Silly me! I guess if I make a thread about 40k Greatest Game Ever it's true too?

and under the BS pretense to commemorate the upteenth customer....give me a break.... commemorate something actually worthwhile and meaningful to people please.

Like what? Thanksgiving? Hanukah? Christmas? Birthdays? Birth of children? Divorces? Weddings?

So many choices!

I guess you missed this part

Games Workshop trade account orders placed through the web store

NIce try though

Do you not know how Direct Only items work through trade accounts?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Do you not know how Direct Only items work through trade accounts?

Do you not know that stock sitting on FLGS shelves doesn't qualify.

But supposedly that's "pro-consumer"

This "promotion" has F.A to do with rewarding hobbyists or stockists.