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I'll be interested in seeing what happens with the expansions, depending on the content/prices. I was lucky and managed to bag a copy the first time around, with the added benefit of a discount from the FLGS. I think there will be those who got burnt by what happened and have decided to just move on, but it's good news for those who are still interested.

Pretty much expected this announcement and of course welcome it.

The Cursed City fiasco has been well covered in previous threads and many a youtube video and so there isn't much more to say on the matter, save for GW to at least communicate with their wider customer base that they acknowledge it's concerns.

Was just reminding myself what the other Radukar model looks like.

Forgot they’d released the other CC characters. For £78.50.

I feel for those who could’ve held off to get them, even more models and a full game for ££46.50 more. Less if you get it from an online discounter.

Interesting in hindsight they released the enemy faction separately, but not the hero faction.

When the explanation is finally made, be it in a couple of years time, I'll be interested to hear it.

Glad to hear it for the people still interested in the game, but they probably should have told people it was gonna be back instead of the opposite, because I'm sure there's people that have paid entirely to much to scalpers for this.

Personally any interest I had for it faded a long time ago, but still.

EightFoldPath wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Imagine buying this at overpriced tags with scalpers on eBay.

They've not said how much this will be yet, maybe the scalped boxes will end up cheaper.

Yeah no.

I once saw somebody bidding for this for $500 freedom bucks.

No way GW will re-release the same product under a year of difference with that increase.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:

EightFoldPath wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Imagine buying this at overpriced tags with scalpers on eBay.

They've not said how much this will be yet, maybe the scalped boxes will end up cheaper.

Exactly. As a 25+ year fan of GW, I expect a price raise to accompany the reprint.

Expect a 1%5 increase, not scalpers selling it for 400% the original price online.

 AegisGrimm wrote:

EightFoldPath wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
Imagine buying this at overpriced tags with scalpers on eBay.

They've not said how much this will be yet, maybe the scalped boxes will end up cheaper.

Exactly. As a 25+ year fan of GW, I expect a price raise to accompany the reprint.

If their original suppliers fell off a cliff, they might have no choice but to increase prices. Rather, the question is by how much.

I'd guess they cheat the price up 10-20 bucks, but trying to predict GW's pricing is always a mystery.

Depending on how deep a bench of expansions they have planned, they may keep the base box price low to attract more buyers. It probably also depends if they are going to produce CC for a while, or if they are making one more big run.

Going by the latest boxed games price increases my guess is ~150GBP/190€/250$

The game is crap, and still nearly unplayable faff even after end user intervention.

But i want these models for warcry, as they fit the bill more than admirably. The game can go in the trash. I dont say that .ightly, as a boardgamer, such stuff is normally the main reason why id pick this up.

Nice that it is coming back. Maybe some of those 1year + rumor engines will be solved by the expansions.

~I always figured that the good side would get released when Cities or a human faction in AoS got a new Battletome. GW has clearly made this set to pair with the core game a bit more so than the Blackstone. Which is a sensible idea in the long run

 Overread wrote:
~I always figured that the good side would get released when Cities or a human faction in AoS got a new Battletome. GW has clearly made this set to pair with the core game a bit more so than the Blackstone. Which is a sensible idea in the long run

Funny you mention that!

Emmet Byrne wrote:Cursed City is coming back! Not only that, but you'll be able to roleplay in the Cursed City with the upcoming Soulbound book Ulfenkarn: City at the Edge of Death!

Emmet Byrne is a RPG designer, co-designer of Soulbound, and a creative director at Cubicle 7.

Well I'll be...

Guess that means we'll get to find out if this mini or this mini really were expansions hastily rushed out as regular releases when CC vanished the first time.

It's nice for people who didn't get a copy, but it's a criminally boring game to play. It's really like four scenarios repeated over and over and over again, and they're not good scenarios. It's kind of crazy how the original Warhammer Quest can essentially be the same thing over and over again, except with a different final room, and it's 10 times as much fun.

So with that said, I'm not so sure about grabbing any expansions. I can imagine the prices on them will be insulting, and all to expand a game that's boring.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well I'll be...

Guess that means we'll get to find out if this mini or this mini really were expansions hastily rushed out as regular releases when CC vanished the first time.

I'd have thought if they were in the Vampire book, then they were planned as elements of that some time ago given the lead time for things and that the Cursed City issues apparently occurred whilst they were setting up for a second printing.
But no reason they might not have been both - though I thought the rumours around locations in the city hinted that there were other types of undead in the city (Nighthaunt, ghouls etc)?

Lets not forget that whilst we got the cool Zoat and Awakened Drone expansions, there was also one that had easy to build plague marines and pox walkers.
Fancy card deck for hauntings (from dead enemies and fallen friends) and a new city tile would easily make a ghost expansion interesting, if a little uninspired in the miniature department.

I wonder if there is a rewrite of any part of the design. In boardgame circles, tbis game was universally panned as garbage. Which is a shame since the models are so very good.

Good to know it was designed by emmet byrne. I will avoid his designs like the plague when i note the name is the design credits.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
I wonder if there is a rewrite of any part of the design. In boardgame circles, tbis game was universally panned as garbage. Which is a shame since the models are so very good.

Good thing boardgame circles are boardgame circles?

Good to know it was designed by emmet byrne. I will avoid his designs like the plague when i note the name is the design credits.

So you're clear with your weird frothy haterade today:
Emmet Byrne is Cubicle 7, working on the Soulbound RPG.


He didn't work on Cursed City the boardgame.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
I wonder if there is a rewrite of any part of the design. In boardgame circles, tbis game was universally panned as garbage. Which is a shame since the models are so very good.

Good thing boardgame circles are boardgame circles?

Good to know it was designed by emmet byrne. I will avoid his designs like the plague when i note the name is the design credits.

So you're clear with your weird frothy haterade today:
Emmet Byrne is Cubicle 7, working on the Soulbound RPG.


He didn't work on Cursed City the boardgame.

Ahh, mea culpa. I misunderstood your post as attaching him to the design of cursed city.

As for haterade, this is a boardgame. Its should be rated on those merits and not just because it has admittedly very pretty dollies. Gw could have saved the consumer and their entire carbon footprint/resources by just selling the dollies to us and not insult the gaming public with the game design, or rather, its distinct pack therof.

But youre the local gw whiteknight, so your own opinions on the matter were predictable years before you made them here.

Does Games Workshop make literally any games that are genuinely fun to play from a boardgame player perspective, and not a "cool lore/cool minis" perspective? Like, you could sit someone down who enjoys Catan or Last Night on Earth, and play X with them, and it's not a poorly-written-and balanced, tedious slog?

I'd give them Talisman and maaaaybe Space Hulk, but SH does lean awful hard into having a cool backstory.

Gorechosen, silver tower, or pretty much anything designed by james hewitt during his time at gw. In some ways, i consider most of gw recent boardgames to be pretty decent if not actually good. The last "bad board game" design seems to be the oft maligned dreadfleet game. And im not so sure as that was a bad design as it just flew in the face of expectations of their customers.

Boardgames are allowed to have cool backstories too. Being well designed isnt mutually exclusive of being well written. If anything, they go hand in hand.

Stuff like cursed city sticks out like a sore thumb when it has as many obvious mechanical design flaws as it does.

A good overview of the more egregious flaws in cursed city you can find in Joel Eddys drive thru review.

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
And im not so sure as that was a bad design as it just flew in the face of expectations of their customers.

It was. Look up what Jake Thornton, an old school GW employee who went on to work at Mantic, had to say about the game when it came out. It's interesting to watch his before and after thoughts, starting with "I remember Man'O'War! This should be fun!" through to "Who designed this???".

 Wiz Warrior wrote:
The game is crap, and still nearly unplayable faff even after end user intervention.

But i want these models for warcry, as they fit the bill more than admirably. The game can go in the trash. I dont say that .ightly, as a boardgamer, such stuff is normally the main reason why id pick this up.

Well if you're just going to scrap the non-mini elements? Toss the original box, shove them in a flat rate shipping box/mailer envelope & send them my way. I'll pay the postage.
You can even punch the cardboard parts out of the frames & stick the tokens etc in a ziplock baggie. Whatever makes for the cheapest shipping.

My interest is mostly the game. We can play that with any # of existing minis though.

Wasn't cursed City ruleswize just BSF in Fantasy, so very similar in its mechanics? Our group enjoyed BSF.

 Ouze wrote:
Does Games Workshop make literally any games that are genuinely fun to play from a boardgame player perspective, and not a "cool lore/cool minis" perspective? Like, you could sit someone down who enjoys Catan or Last Night on Earth, and play X with them, and it's not a poorly-written-and balanced, tedious slog?

I'd give them Talisman and maaaaybe Space Hulk, but SH does lean awful hard into having a cool backstory.

I think Talisman is only fun for a handful of plays before it begins to get tedious. Space Hulk was really pretty good.

Underworlds is the best GW game (imo, of course). However, while I *suppose* you could play it with a boardgamer, you'll find that the kind of person who gets the most mileage out of it is the cardgamer type; anyone who's been into games like Magic or Netrunner will see the beauty of this game.

I've not played Cursed City. It does indeed look like a tedious slog. I played through the entire BSF campaign with a friend in a week and while we had a blast it was probably because I hadn't seen him in a couple of years and we played the campaign while hanging out. In retrospect, I wouldn't want to play it again.

I only actually played Talisman a handful of times so... that makes sense

 Ouze wrote:
Does Games Workshop make literally any games that are genuinely fun to play from a boardgame player perspective, and not a "cool lore/cool minis" perspective? Like, you could sit someone down who enjoys Catan or Last Night on Earth, and play X with them, and it's not a poorly-written-and balanced, tedious slog?

I'd give them Talisman and maaaaybe Space Hulk, but SH does lean awful hard into having a cool backstory.

The game that came in Betrayal At Calth was praised quite highly, even on BGG. Ironic really, as most people bought it for the minis. A James Hewitt work that gets largely missed, sadly.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Also, I can now start converting the models in my set without the fear of backlash for doing it to one of the few kits out there.

+1
My thoughts aswell.
I bought it at my local hobby shop on release day and gave all the non mini content away, then it became (temporarily) OOP and I kept most of the minis on the sprues. Now I feel free to populate Necromunda with them

GW WAS famous for its board games too. Games like Warhammer Quest 1995 and Space Hulk are great games and true classics.
Dreadfleet was far superior to WHQ Coursed City in terms of mechanics and playability even if it was a dice fest. In was actually a wargame in a box, more than a board game, and beautiful to see once painted. It did deserve the fate it had.
Coming back to Coursed City it is indeed a BSF reskin but in BSF worked mechanics worked because of throwing weapons. In CC there are not two (almost) and the gameplay is ruined, with enemies that often struggle to attack heroes...

There's some pretty good homebrew content that addresses many of the problems with the game.
Here's some of it.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2642992/first-impressions-fixes-and-additional-content

I hope GW incorporates some of these changes in the expansions